I enjoy Trump's presidency because I really understand american society/politics
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:20 AM Author: Vermilion Resort
can you imagine our immigration policies in any other country - CA literally prohibiting police from sharing information about illegals to ICE? Or elite sanctioned racism aka "progressive stacking"/"affirmative action" that is still allowed despite all the brouhaha over discrimination and the anti-discrimination laws. America as a land of liberty, western enlightenment and personal freedom/enterprise is DONE here
there is no solution in the political realm and so Trump is the perfect president for our clown country.He is 10/10 on the most important thing we need right now - red pilling america and exposing the true nature of media/politicians plus the fact that he riles up libs 24/7 is an added bonus. they were gas-lighting us for 8 years during Obama with hands up dont shoot,mattress girl, BLM, UVA jackie. now we are paying it back with interest
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:24 AM Author: Stimulating Native
I like how he's made it abundantly clear that leadership is meaningless and whatever happens was going to happen anyway. You could install a retarded ape in office and everything would just keep working.
I remember Krugman predicting doom and gloom after the markets dropped when he won the election. LJL.
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:48 AM Author: Vermilion Resort
they didnt have much political power in 1965 when INA was passed. money in politics was also not a big factor then.
so why blame them when an overwhelmingly white congress/senate and the country voted for INA in 1965. nobody until trump (reagan, nixon, Bushes) has even talked about reducing immigration and reagan even gave amnesty.
you always get the politicians you deserve. i very strongly believe in that. you vote for GHWB, GWB, Lindsey, Flake then only you are to blame
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 2:46 AM Author: rambunctious property
“Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:31 AM
Author: Before the Law
it's funny as a joke but if you really believe it you're kinda dumb. no offense
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507378)”
Really high level of argument here
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:59 AM Author: salmon address black woman
edited because i didn't want to get into a multipara subthread wasteland reply but i appreciate the reasonable reply. i don't really get what you don't like about my NIMBY analogy. so one kind of person is a hypocrite about their personal and family's interests and another is hypocritical about their tribe's interests. it's just different levels of in-group.
anyway, the point isn't that they're exactly the same psychological mechanism but that you can't really infer that the oligarchs aren't true believers in cosmopolitan post nationalism (or in the neighborhood busing analogy, you can't infer that they're not "anti-racist"), jewish or not, it's just that they have these blindspots and are imperfect ambassadors of their ideology as most of us are. the annoying thing is like the unhinged dude above people want to reduce their world view to their hypocrisy which is dumb. Does anyone believe e.g. that McCain doesn't believe every dumb word that he says?
ultimately the simplistic thinking about what motivates elites is misguided because i don't think you can actually properly understand them through these self serving, simplistic explanations of their world view
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:07 AM Author: orange slimy hunting ground
it's more complex, yes, but ultimately people find rationalizations that help them make more money....yes, these rationalizations are based on things like principles and morals etc, but it always winds up that the rationalizations just so happen to benefit those at the top....here is the chain of causality: those at the top construct rationalizations that are apparently based on principles and morals...but actually help the elites get richer...
for example, they push immigration on the basis that it helps third worlders...equality etc...of course immigration also props up the ponzi economy and allows those at the top to keep making money....
now, here comes the cause and effect part of it--the elites generate propaganda to help push that rationalization....what sort of propaganda? Well, for one, they fire newspaper editors who write editorials against immigration...so then younger, up and coming editors to be see that and it influences their future behavior...so when they become editors they write pro-immigration editorials--so they won't get fired....
and then young and impressionable white kids read the editorials and they go on to become teachers (or whatever) and they fill the minds of their students with pro-immigration sentiment because that is what a good person does...they know that because they were influenced by pro-immigration propaganda as kids...
so, yes, it is more complex, but the prime mover is greed.
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:56 AM Author: Vermilion Resort
the reason I made this thread was that i just read this article
http://www.dailycal.org/2017/07/06/uc-berkeley-releases-2017-18-admissions-data/
Remember CA has banned affirmative action in college admissions through state referendum. and even the shitlib 9th circuit upheld that ban. But despite this Berkeley which is extremely selective and highly competitive is around 25% URM (black/hispanic). Considering the quality of students applying to Berkeley, their GPA/SAT scores and how selective it is this is impossible without backdoor AA.
So the libs fought the AA ban during the referendum and lost. then they tried to overturn it through courts and lost. and so they said fuck it and did it anyway through "holistic" application process and got what they wanted
which is why i say that we live in a clown country - the will of the people is constantly trampled. People call CA liberal but they forget that the people of CA LITERALLY banned gay marriage, state benefits for illegals and affirmative action through state referendum. Most american citizens in CA even today are strongly opposed to illegals. But the shitlibs overturned the first two through bullshit judicial decisions and just plain ignored the third and they did all this with the elites (media, cuck GOP, business leaders) looking the other way
So i lol @ any idiot who gets worked up over Trump not passing any legislation. You can pass all the "laws" you want in this clown country. But the real powers who run the show will do what the want
HTFH
EDIT: I misread the stats. corrected it above
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:08 AM Author: Vermilion Resort
you are right. the article talked about the whole UC system and berkeley and i got confused. the 40% is for the whole UC system
but my point still stands. without backdoor AA through bullshit "holistic" process Berkeley would be <10% URM if they completely removed race from the admissions process like they are supposed to
Another ridiculous example is that CA governor refused to even appeal the bullshit decision of a single district judge overturning the state referendum banning benefits for illegals. Even SCOTUS overturning the gay marriage ban was TTT but this is much worse than that. So the will of millions of CA residents was overruled by ONE FUCKING JUDGE (Mariana Pfaelzer) and the california govt who is supposed to represent us and fight for our laws back stabbed us.
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:44 AM Author: marvelous iridescent trust fund menage
It is sad how much of a cuck Trump is now.
xo Stephen Miller is the only worthwhile guy left in the administration. Can you imagine how badly Trump would have lost if he said "My first act as President will be to give our greatest allies Israel and Saudi Arabia billions of dollars." He would have lost every single state.
If he doesn't shape up quickly he will be blown out in 2020. He made 2016 an existential choice for every white person in America. The emotions he exploited to win will be the same emotions that slit his throat in 2020.
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:52 AM Author: Vermilion Resort
this assumes that there is a more nationalist, real conservative to vote for during the primaries. because you know that at the end of the day Trump will win if he is the nominee bcos dems will continue with the SJW crusade and no fucking way anybody with a brain will vote for a democrat if they are concerned about immigration
so far he has been doing good domestically. at the end of the day Israel/Saudi/Iran shit is immaterial to americans as long as he doesnt take us to war. What we really care about is immigration (wall prototypes out, DACA requires real concessions from dems and in the mean time illegal immigration is down a lot, ICE is doing its job), trade (serious renegotiation going on regd NAFTA and we will get a better deal), culture war/red pill americans (he pwned NFL and is 180 on this)
I think you are grading him too harshly. he has been a disappointment on shit like taxes, healthcare but at the end of the day thats not what differentiated him or made him look like a savior - it was immigration and trade and he has not cucked out there
I just hope our GOP voters boot cucks out of congress so we can actually pass strong immigration laws (which will only slow down our decline because refer back to my OP) but you cant blame trump there when half of the GOP senators are uber cucks
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:16 AM Author: marvelous iridescent trust fund menage
This is my optimistic scenario for the medium term.
Perhaps my grade is harsh but he has cucked on a ton of stuff, especially Israel/Middle East foreign policy and administration staffing. Why did he fire Bannon? Why did he fire Flynn? Why does he employ his shitlib daughter and shitlib son in law in his administration?
90th+ percentile scenario is Trump deports the DACA adult criminal aliens. Dream scenario is we see a purge of cucks like Jeff Flake and Paul Ryan from the Republican Party and pass legislation that has a lasting beneficial impact on us.
The median scenario is that he gets re-elected. The Dems will put up some demented person against him. Maybe even Crooked H again. But nothing will happen. Maybe he engages in another war in the Middle East for Israel.
Bottom Line, the future is still stacked against the people who elected Trump.
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:30 AM Author: Vermilion Resort
the last line is right but reversing that is beyond any one person and arc of history etc etc
i just want to comment on one aspect of your post though - XO is not reflective of the average american voter whether it is democrat or republican or trump voter. You think an average trump voter from OK or WI or PA or NC or ID really gives a shit about middle east or understands that region. Your argument that if they knew about his middle east policies they wouldnt have voted for him is ridiculous. it probably wasnt even among the top 10 reasons why they picked him. Not to mention that Trump was very open about his love for Israel and constantly talked about how he would be the best president for Israel during the campaign and also bashed the iran deal constantly. So its not like middle east policy was a surprise. finally the average trump voter (not talking about XO but in general) is going to be more sympathetic to israel than otherwise
people who are backed into a corner cant afford a multi front war. am not a big fan of our middle east policy but at this point our singular focus should be on immigration and no point in Trump or any nationalistic candidate going against the consensus (terrible as it is) on israel/middle east
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:46 AM Author: marvelous iridescent trust fund menage
180 response. I absolutely don't believe that the average Trump voter is intelligent. That's why I said the best case unlikely scenario is that he builds the wall and some cucks get tossed out of congress. 2016 was the lower bound for him. 2020 is set up to be a total landslide for him. The best case scenario is that he rightfully makes the election a matter of life and death for American whites. If he does, he will win in the biggest blowout of all time.
Left wing whites are incredibly close to adopting identity politics. They are teetering. They asked blacks to vote for Bernie and they didn't. That hasn't been forgotten. This country is still 66% white. The remaining left-wing whites are thinking about how it would feel for their children to not look like them. These people are starting to look down the road and they don't seem to want their children to be a minority in their own homeland.
When that happens it will be a landslide and we may see Constitutional Amendments passed.
The only way he wins re-election is if he makes it out to be an existential issue for middle America again. Obviously if Wisconsin understood the reality of how effective the Israeli Wall is, they would be demanding it.
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