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meeting with big firm practice group chair for drinks after cold email

cold emailed senior partner and practice group chair re join...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
well done. you could get a job out of this.
Bull headed public bath candlestick maker
  10/23/17
Thanks. Chances he balks though once he sees my grades? My r...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
High, brother.
puce concupiscible clown
  10/24/17
fuck my ass
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/24/17
...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/24/17
did you have a connection with him like same undergrad? he's...
sooty mexican
  10/23/17
same law school
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
was he cum laude or higher?
azure cerebral cuck
  10/23/17
Yes
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
I dunno man, meeting with his colleagues seems kind of serio...
primrose pozpig garrison
  10/23/17
I assume that he assumes, based on my resume, that I placed ...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
Well then it's going to become an issue if (a) this is serio...
primrose pozpig garrison
  10/23/17
I've only gotten to where I am now because of soft skills ...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
his hiring power depends on how powerful he is within the fi...
sooty mexican
  10/23/17
His hiring power will vary so greatly based on factors you h...
primrose pozpig garrison
  10/23/17
Tyvm
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
isn't class rank irrelevant past your first job?
chartreuse nursing home
  10/23/17
(It is 1999)
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
Nope
iridescent zippy striped hyena wagecucks
  10/24/17
This is a great opportunity to get into the firm. Come off a...
Spruce Location
  10/23/17
There aren't any openings online, you see, at least not in h...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
It doesn't matter what you see online. He could have a need ...
Spruce Location
  10/23/17
true. also, could just be looking around for a theoretica...
sooty mexican
  10/23/17
Maybe this is it. I said I couldn't start in March 1
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
Fair. It's a niche group, so maybe they don't publicly adver...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
protip: you'll NEVER know the truth. just slide and let do.
sooty mexican
  10/23/17
...
Spruce Location
  10/23/17
If he's taking the time to meet with you in person hes not j...
Diverse ivory step-uncle's house
  10/23/17
This is what I figured. So where should I set my expectation...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
always set expectations low.
sooty mexican
  10/23/17
i dont mean he's doing charity. i mean he may be trying to h...
sooty mexican
  10/23/17
(boomer)
Aqua deranged stag film
  10/23/17
FIRM | HANDSHAKE STEADY | EYE | CONTACT
chartreuse nursing home
  10/23/17
I just called him up and he dropped everything to make sure ...
Aqua deranged stag film
  10/23/17
...
red fortuitous meteor
  10/23/17
lol @ people seriously responding to Doobs ITT
odious plaza
  10/23/17
...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/23/17
...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/24/17
One last bump
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  10/24/17
...
marvelous cyan place of business theater stage
  11/26/17


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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:46 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

cold emailed senior partner and practice group chair re joining the firm. I graduated in '16. I've been in gov't work since last October and want to transition. Partner says he's happy to put my application through the official process but wants to meet informally first, maybe including a few of his colleagues.

apart from relevant work experience and cool summer work, I'm a sps candidate who graduated bottom third at my t20.

What's the best I can hope for??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511555)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 9:49 PM
Author: Bull headed public bath candlestick maker

well done. you could get a job out of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34513362)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 10:14 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

Thanks. Chances he balks though once he sees my grades? My resume truly is deceptive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34513616)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 11:12 AM
Author: puce concupiscible clown

High, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34517166)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 12:52 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

fuck my ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34517984)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:55 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34521329)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:47 PM
Author: sooty mexican

did you have a connection with him like same undergrad? he's probably just being nice. i wouldnt expect much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511570)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:48 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

same law school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511576)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:50 PM
Author: azure cerebral cuck

was he cum laude or higher?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511585)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:53 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511605)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: primrose pozpig garrison

I dunno man, meeting with his colleagues seems kind of serious if he's just being polite. As a '16 grad, though, your LS creds are still the most relevant thing about you as an applicant. Does he maybe just not *know* what a worthless little fuckup you were?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511586)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:52 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

I assume that he assumes, based on my resume, that I placed higher in my class than I did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511596)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: primrose pozpig garrison

Well then it's going to become an issue if (a) this is serious, and (b) you make it to the next step in the review process. Which it was going to anyway (you certainly didn't think that there was some backdoor "drinks with practice chair" hiring process that doesn't at any point involve LOOKING AT YOUR GRADES FROM ONE YEAR AGO), and it will for basically any job worth having at this stage in your career.

So I'd say that this is a pretty good opportunity, and if you're going to punch out of your league job-wise you better capitalize on this type of shit. Seem funny and interesting but adult-like and professional; talk like you know the area well, have an entrepreneurial bent about it, and have already committed to it. And most important, be likeable and don't be a faggot, but if you can't manage that one then I'm afraid it's public sector work for the foreseeable future for you, regardless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511662)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 6:04 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

I've only gotten to where I am now because of soft skills

What's his hiring power and what does he mean by official process?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511691)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: sooty mexican

his hiring power depends on how powerful he is within the firm, how much the rest of the firm wants you, and how much he wants to play his cards to pull strings to get you hired if the rest of the firm doesnt want you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511699)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 6:22 PM
Author: primrose pozpig garrison

His hiring power will vary so greatly based on factors you haven't disclosed that an answer would be useless. Even giving you the "factors" would be useless since you can get better info even from him -- and he's a multi-biased and self-protective source you can't even candidly ask questions to.

The "official process" is just how far short the sum of his hiring power + your creds falls from the firm's normal standards under ideal conditions. It'll at least involve looking at your grades; the real questions are (1) is he a part of the final decisionmaking; and (2) if not, does whoever is operate largely independently of his input (viewing it like judges view letters of rec) or does his rec set the tone for the presumptive decision. All this shit is so circumstance-dependent and intertwined with your merits and how much he likes you that it feels worthless typing all this shit. Just go kick ass and make that boomer feel like relevant and vibrant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511778)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 7:05 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

Tyvm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34512093)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: chartreuse nursing home

isn't class rank irrelevant past your first job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511591)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:53 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

(It is 1999)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511603)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:56 PM
Author: iridescent zippy striped hyena wagecucks

Nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34521332)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:52 PM
Author: Spruce Location

This is a great opportunity to get into the firm. Come off as personable and sharp and you will get the job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511595)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:54 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

There aren't any openings online, you see, at least not in his section. Could he make one if he so desired?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511614)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:56 PM
Author: Spruce Location

It doesn't matter what you see online. He could have a need in his group and doesn't like to do a cattle call

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511631)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:57 PM
Author: sooty mexican

true.

also, could just be looking around for a theoretical need in the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511638)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 6:03 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

Maybe this is it. I said I couldn't start in March 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511683)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

Fair. It's a niche group, so maybe they don't publicly advertise, since it wouldn't get many apps. Idk.

I'd like to think we could meet, and if it goes well, we work together. But he said "happy to put your app through the official process," so huh....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511667)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 6:04 PM
Author: sooty mexican

protip: you'll NEVER know the truth. just slide and let do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511692)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 9:50 PM
Author: Spruce Location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34513369)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:53 PM
Author: Diverse ivory step-uncle's house

If he's taking the time to meet with you in person hes not just being nice. Being nice would be a phone call or courtesy email.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511606)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:55 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

This is what I figured. So where should I set my expectations?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511620)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:56 PM
Author: sooty mexican

always set expectations low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511629)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:55 PM
Author: sooty mexican

i dont mean he's doing charity. i mean he may be trying to help out a fellow alum of his LS, but the rest of the firm might not be on board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511624)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:57 PM
Author: Aqua deranged stag film

(boomer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511635)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:58 PM
Author: chartreuse nursing home

FIRM | HANDSHAKE

STEADY | EYE | CONTACT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511643)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Aqua deranged stag film

I just called him up and he dropped everything to make sure I got a job! I don't understand why kids today don't do the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511653)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: red fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511663)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: odious plaza

lol @ people seriously responding to Doobs ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34511701)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 9:38 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34513291)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 10:24 AM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34516781)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 9:23 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage

One last bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34522017)



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Date: November 26th, 2017 8:42 PM
Author: marvelous cyan place of business theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772656&forum_id=2#34777547)