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Pls explain to me like I'm 5 how Russia prevented people from voting for Hillary
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:24 AM Author: Sepia dashing hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568844) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:25 AM Author: Cyan skinny woman keepsake machete Free speech only works so long as its Yankees talking and the rest of the world listening. You can tell Russians who to vote for but not the other way around, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568852) |
Date: October 31st, 2017 8:39 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi WASHINGTON — An estimated 126 million Americans, roughly one-third of the nation’s population, received Russian-backed content on Facebook during the 2016 campaign, according to prepared testimony the company submitted Monday to the Senate Judiciary Committee and obtained by NBC News.
Underscoring how widely content on the social media platform can spread, Facebook says in the testimony that while some 29 million Americans directly received material from 80,000 posts by 120 fake Russian-backed pages in their own news feeds, those posts were “shared, liked and followed by people on Facebook, and, as a result, three times more people may have been exposed to a story that originated from the Russian operation.”
The testimony by Facebook's general counsel, Colin Stretch, was submitted to the Judiciary Committee ahead of a hearing on Tuesday with executives from Facebook, Google and Twitter. The hearing is part of the congressional inquiry into Russia’s use of these platforms to try to influence last year’s U.S. presidential election.
Twitter also revealed Russian-backed entities played a larger role than previously disclosed. Two sources told NBC News Monday that the company found 36,746 automated accounts — or bots — that were linked to Russia between September 1 and November 15, 2016. The accounts tweeted 1.4 million times and were seen 288 million times.
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:40 AM Author: Cyan skinny woman keepsake machete It's just speech. Russians have every right to partake in the market place of ideas as anyone else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568900) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:42 AM Author: Black floppy market LOL @ this being an issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568911) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:44 AM Author: self-absorbed copper giraffe love of her life LMAO "exposed"
One shitty post in your shitty fb feed and suddenly the Russians have hacked your vote. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:51 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi No, but it's not at all hard to believe that this massive propaganda campaign influenced at least some of the 66,000 or whatever votes that Trump won by.
Your strawman notwithstanding :-) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:55 AM Author: self-absorbed copper giraffe love of her life Look man. If you can show me where Manafort or somebody else conspired with the Russians to steal Podesta's emails, I'll bring the rifles for the firing squad. K? But you know this Facebook nonsense is bullshit, so just knock it the fuck off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568952) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:58 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi Why is this Facebook stuff nonsense? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568957) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:03 AM Author: Titillating resort Do you think Hillary spent less time and effort working social media than the Russians? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568972) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:37 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569085) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:40 AM Author: Titillating resort Well then if Russia had a big pro-Trump social media campaign (which I don't actually believe), why did Russia's work and Hillary's didn't? Hint: because Hillary was a shit candidate who couldn't win despite a huge numerical cash advantage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569099) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:41 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi So the GC of facebook was lying you think?
Hillary's may have "worked" as well in garnering support, but that doesn't preclude the possibility Russia's campaign swayed key votes in key states. Trump won by an incredibly small number of votes. It doesn't strain credulity at all to attribute some of these votes to the misinformation spread by the Russkies. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:13 AM Author: Cerise coiffed selfie church building there's no way it would come close to getting 100s of thousands of votes in different states Hillary lost but dishonest libs are still trying to delegitimize Trump's presidency |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 2:23 PM Author: Hateful mental disorder Buying ads isn't illicit hacking. It's intelligent foreign policy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34571238) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 11:55 AM Author: bonkers mind-boggling step-uncle's house regret This. There is nothing even illegal about what they did. I'm sure the US does this same stuff on social media for nearly every election for every other country on earth.
Remember, a lot of the ads were almost word for word BLM and Hillary propaganda |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:03 AM Author: salmon karate tank The Russians could play with the gloves off by running pro Black Lives Matter ads meant to scare white people. Even Trump wouldn't be able to do that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569261) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:05 AM Author: Titillating resort If you think Hillary didn't play dirty, you are in fact 5 years old. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569273) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:37 AM Author: ocher cuck hospital Maybe zuckerberg shouldn't sell fucking ads to the Russians then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569081) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:37 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi Sure. But the question was asked, and I answered. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569087) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:43 AM Author: ocher cuck hospital Pretty dumb answer. You're basically admitting that this is a non-issue if we're now reduced to looking at who bought facebook ads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569111) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:45 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi Why is that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569119) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:46 AM Author: ocher cuck hospital Because anyone can buy facebook ads and post bullshit or just post bullshit for free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569126) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:47 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi Right. And the Russians did so. how does that mean Russian propaganda had no effect? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569131) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:50 AM Author: ocher cuck hospital The question was prevented ppl from voting for Hillary, which didn't happen. If people were swayed by double digit iq facebook ads whether it's from Russia or not then it's hillarys fault for being a shitty candidate. Plenty of propaganda was thrown at trump but he actually got out and reached voters instead of treating this process like a coronation. Sorry your still butt hurt about this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569158) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:51 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi Clinton was a shitty candidate. But as long as you acknowledge Russians tried to interfere and could have swayed votes, we're good here, friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569167) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:53 AM Author: ocher cuck hospital I wouldn't call taking out fb ads "interfering" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569177) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:53 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi Sure, just do let hostile foreign governments influence elections. lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569183) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:58 AM Author: ocher cuck hospital I agree zuckerberg shouldn't sell ads to anyone with a checkbook. maybe he's the one that should be investigated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569221) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:06 AM Author: Low-t theatre when did this rule start that foreign govts can't support a given candidate? seems like many influential world leaders were very vocal throughout the campaign about their support of hillary, widely reported in media and boasted about by her supporters, and I must have missed her disavowals of that foreign support. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569276) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:34 AM Author: marvelous space odd case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569445) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:18 PM Author: fuchsia boyish idea he suggested obeezy gaped here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34752940) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:12 AM Author: Contagious alcoholic mood nibblets Hey dumb dumb, all youve shown is that the fb gc believes russian advertising reached some number of people.
You havent shown impact. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:45 AM Author: multi-colored maniacal property sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569121) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:47 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi That's a very substantive argument, pepito. Great work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569132) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:51 AM Author: ocher cuck hospital Anyone who substantially responds to you is wasting their time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569162) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:52 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi Conveniently, this allows the xo con crew to sidestep actually engaging with any of my reasonable and well thought out points.
hehe |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:53 AM Author: ocher cuck hospital You didn't even use "hehe" properly you stupid asshole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569181) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:54 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi hehe ;-) don't get mad brother it's a beautiful morning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569186) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:58 PM Author: Lavender haunting heaven friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34752835) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 12:15 PM Author: Deranged knife hissy fit Do you honestly believe there's a 2% chance that those 66k votes or whatever would have not voted for Trump in those specific states if not for some retarded troll bait in their fucking FB feed?
Even when I did use FB a lot, I probably didn't even see 90% of shit in my feed, and definitely didn't even read 5% of the headlines of the links retards shared in my feed that I did see.
The people who voted for Trump listened to Trump himself. They saw innumerable ads from all sides. They were inundated constantly with news and discussion and analysis and propaganda from innumerable media sources, word of mouth, everywhere. But somehow these Russian trolls on a shoestring budget utterly dwarfed by either candidate or party managed to swing the minds of exactly the right PA/OH/FL/WI Americans who otherwise would have stayed home or voted for Hillary?
No fucking way. The people who were influenced by that shit were 100% already in the tank for Trump. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:49 AM Author: hairraiser purple lay lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568934) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:51 AM Author: aquamarine twinkling uncleanness school lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568939) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:03 AM Author: drunken fragrant brunch why isnt facebook under investigation for publishing these frauds? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569259) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:36 AM Author: Burgundy garrison I love that libs believe this line and aren't holding their shit politicians accountable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569461) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 11:14 AM Author: Cruel-hearted gas station this is the dumbest shit i've ever read and i poast here almost every day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34755704) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:46 AM Author: self-absorbed copper giraffe love of her life They hacked the air traffic control system, literally made it impossible for Hillary to visit PA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568926) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:48 AM Author: Bateful Soggy National So Clinton campaign spends 1.2 billion, but Russians made some social media posts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568930) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:50 AM Author: Cyan skinny woman keepsake machete Our work product was just better all around. Hire the KGB for all your electioneering needs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568937) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:51 AM Author: hairraiser purple lay It's funny how the consensus view on Russia went from "drunk flatulent retards who can barely tie their own shoes" to "brilliant global masterminds" practically overnight (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568942) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:54 AM Author: Cyan skinny woman keepsake machete Russians play chess, bro. Americans play checkers. Literally the entire country is just a bunch of bros raised reading and watching movies about spies and field marshalls and nothing else. Pull literally any random Ivan off the street and he likely already trained to run divisions in the field, bro. Yankees -- you faggots are on SCRUM teams and deal with AGILE. Try AGILEing your way through WW3, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568949) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:58 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/08/article-0-194897A100000578-152_634x460.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568962) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:01 AM Author: Titillating resort They didn't just make some "social media poasts", they paid the princely sum of $20,000 to run some deceptive anti-Clinton ads on Facebook. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568966) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:19 AM Author: Bateful Soggy National Sorry, retreating from this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569354) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 12:16 PM Author: Deranged knife hissy fit lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34570253) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:53 AM Author: sadistic hall they hacked voting software. that Reality Winner chick is going to jail for leaking the NSA report. Mueller is still investigating and we will know more details when the findings of his investigation are released
https://twitter.com/RebeccaShabad/status/871822448660029440 |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:56 AM Author: Cyan skinny woman keepsake machete LJL at putting your voting machines on the interweb. You deserve that shit if you're that dumb. But of course these machine are not networked and the alleged hacks would require physical attacks which would, of course, never happen. Yankee disinformation.
On the bright side Vlad is about 15 seconds away from kicking CNN the fuck out of Russia. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:58 AM Author: sadistic hall cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568958) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 11:10 AM Author: sadistic hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34755687) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:55 AM Author: Titillating resort The paid for voter suppression laws to be passed in America that deny minorities their right to vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568953) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:58 AM Author: translucent hyperactive location Libs truly believe that people have no agency. For example, if they are told that Hillary is corrupt and in failing health they will believe these things to be true. Even though these things are definitely not true. "Russia" apparently said some unflattering things about Hillary and this caused Trump to win. Therefore, the election was hacked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568959) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:02 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi Most people are highly susceptible to misinformation because most people aren't very critical or intelligent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568968) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:07 AM Author: translucent hyperactive location Right, that's what I'm saying. Obviously all the smart people vote Democrat which leaves all the stupid people to vote Republican. Which is how Russia was able to hack the election. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568983) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:35 AM Author: hairraiser purple lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569077) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:38 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi No, most Americans aren't intelligent enough to make informed decisions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569090) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:49 AM Author: provocative mauve stead Guess the libs in charge of education the last 50 years have some splaining to do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569146) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:50 AM Author: henna 180 home fanboi Eh. The *median* IQ is 100. And most of the people I work with are probably 110-120 or so range and are still incredibly irrational about many things, including politics.
It's an inherent flaw in any democracy. People aren't that bright. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:03 AM Author: Low-t theatre in that case hillary probably should have tried to convince some of those not-so-bright voters in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania to vote for her. do any of those not-so-bright voters get exposed to entertainment, media, television, social media, etc etc etc, all of which were overwhelmingly in the tank for Hillary? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569260) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:11 AM Author: Racy lilac jew sex offender cr for instance see the posts ITT claiming that facebook ads caused 35,000 Pennsylvanians to switch their votes from D to R. You'd have to be extremely susceptible to misinformation to believe this was even remotely plausible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569309) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:34 AM Author: Burgundy garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569444) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:22 AM Author: grizzly curious forum For example, if they are told that Hillary is corrupt and in failing health they will believe these things to be true. Even though these things are definitely not true.
tyft |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:37 AM Author: Cerise coiffed selfie church building They didn't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569083) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:01 AM Author: salmon karate tank The Russians hacked the voter boards of 39 states. Pretty sure they didn't flip any votes, but they may have deleted a bunch of Democrats off the voting rolls so they had trouble voting on election day. There was also the entire hacking and disclosures of emails. The fact that Trump, Jr. received an invitation from a foreign power to give dirt on Hillary Clinton, and then attended such a meeting, is fucking ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569237) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 12:20 PM Author: Deranged knife hissy fit lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34570286) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:13 AM Author: Charcoal know-it-all queen of the night nigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569323) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:15 AM Author: Mint Whorehouse It was HER turn but the Russians let SHE lose, which was NOT okay and not supposed to happen.
What is this bullshit about facts and evidence |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:27 AM Author: Zippy red bawdyhouse no one should shed a single tear that Hillary is not POTUS but it's silly to suggest that a nation with no shortage of idiots could not have been influenced by propaganda (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569404) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:37 AM Author: stimulating elite marketing idea public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569465) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:41 AM Author: Titillating resort Protip: They were also "influenced" by Hillary's "propaganda". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569484) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:54 AM Author: Zippy red bawdyhouse which was not nearly as effective as Russian propaganda (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569560) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:00 AM Author: Titillating resort US pols spend billions on electioneering but a dictatorship SWOOPS in as the MASTER OF PERSUASION. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569604) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:03 AM Author: Zippy red bawdyhouse well, yes actually. no one does propaganda better than the Russians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569620) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:08 AM Author: Titillating resort (ARE Reptile alt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569659) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:09 AM Author: Zippy red bawdyhouse ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569672) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 11:09 AM Author: histrionic maize roommate a fact counted on by democrats all the time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34755678) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:33 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy crimson meetinghouse By being the one group of people besides the trump campaign and the American that wasn't actively working to hack the election for Shillary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569440) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:34 AM Author: stimulating elite marketing idea public bath Tards ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569443) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:42 AM Author: sadistic hall This is what Mueller is investigating. Once his investigation has concluded his findings will be released. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569487) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:53 AM Author: provocative mauve stead The implication that free speech rights don't apply to "hostile governments" is only a stepping stone to free speech rights don't apply to "hostile organizations" or "hostile ideologies". If borders don't matter in other contexts neither do they here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569551) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:02 AM Author: Zippy red bawdyhouse but borders do matter in other contexts. are you suggesting they shouldn't? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569617) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:21 AM Author: provocative mauve stead If one's world perspective is that borders don't matter, it doesn't matter if Russia is a "hostile government" (a function of borders and sovereignty) but rather just "hostile", a designation they share with such groups as the koch brothers, conservatives, white people, etc.
The focus on Russia is more a function to rouse up the rubes using a different tribal association, a faux patriotism of sorts. Because it is a foreign government they have more tools at their immediate disposal to cast doubt on them than they would if it were the NRA, Koch Brothers, Conservatives, etc. The more they use these tools the more they are merging "hostile governments" to "hostiles in general" which they can use those tools on as well.
Basically they are well on the road to start labeling long standing american organizations as "hostile" and "unamerican" |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:57 AM Author: Zippy red bawdyhouse what are you going on about? they just want to discredit and delegitimize Trump's presidency/victory. both sides of the political aisle want to put an end to Russian interference in elections regardless where they stand on the borders issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34570092) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 3:34 PM Author: provocative mauve stead Both sides of the aisle want it because of what you said in the previous sentence, both sides want to discredit and legitimize Trump. If this was Rubio, Bush or some other GOPe lackey it would be fiercely more partisan.
Russia is an easier scapegoat. They are convenient "evil henchman" for the narrative. There's no blow back economically by souring relations, we don't have much trade. If this were China or Israel we wouldn't be having this discussion and in fact we simply don't have the discussion of other, more "friendly", governments meddling in our affairs whether they are counter productive to the aims of the current administration or counter to the desire of the American People in general.
In terms of the world perspective of those who do not see borders, there is small difference between a "hostile government" and a "hostile organization" or "hostile ideology". It boils down to "Us vs Them" whoever they may be. By using the power of the justice department to fight this meddling in US Elections it opens up a greater threat, the use of the justice department to fight meddling internally. A Koch brother or conservative may as well be a Russian, he is "anti american" or "anti-us" or "one of them".
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:59 AM Author: concupiscible organic girlfriend don't you remember Russia hacked Pokémon Go. that could have swayed voters in WI and MI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569595) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:00 AM Author: Impressive Magical School Cafeteria On the one hand, Hillary Clinton had every major (((media))) outlet pulling for her and campaigning for her nonstop, in addition to a 1 billion campaign war chest.
On the other hand, Russia allegedly bought a few ads on facebook. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:05 AM Author: concupiscible organic girlfriend Russia also hacked Pokémon Go. this cannot be understated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569640) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:09 AM Author: Zippy red bawdyhouse all true. but once the opposition effectively painted the media as fifth columnists they lost a lot of their punch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569669) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:46 AM Author: Burgundy garrison Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569988) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:42 AM Author: Trip Base Why are people wasting their time engaging with “obeezy”’s weak trolling? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569942) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:44 AM Author: concupiscible organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569963) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:45 AM Author: Internet-worthy kitchen "trolling" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569966) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:43 AM Author: saffron fantasy-prone area windowlicker Lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569949) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:01 PM Author: navy cracking milk I don’t know, but have you ever seen the Hunt for Red October? It is a pretty good film. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34752855) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 11:09 AM Author: Honey-headed thirsty toaster lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34755682) |