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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:08 AM Author: Umber hairraiser hairy legs friendly grandma People who are "bad test takers" or "bad conversationalists" but don't realize that these things are results of them being retarded dullards. Hate these people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708297) |
Date: November 17th, 2017 9:09 AM Author: chocolate learning disabled giraffe Yep, one of the real benefits of being smart is that you can usually figure out exactly why you're defective. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708301) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:11 AM Author: racy cyan gay wizard fortuitous meteor You CAN but it the uncovering process is a traumatic experience so many just let do and watch their lives pass before their eyes as though it were a movie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708318) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:18 AM Author: aquamarine submissive principal's office party of the first part Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708825) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:22 PM Author: Beady-eyed set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710747) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:10 AM Author: Bonkers piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708771) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:12 AM Author: Translucent community account smart people are good at realizing things and describing them precisely. This doesn't mean they're good at addressing things, and often leads to rationalization. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708789) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:15 AM Author: Electric shrine It's really questionable whether this is a benefit. Not smart enough to be a legit genius, but smart enough to be aware of your various defects, and feeling like a fraud when proles think you're "omg so smart!" is probably a less comfortable mindset to just be, you know, dumb and not think about things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708809) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:17 AM Author: Bonkers piazza (guy who doesn't have the balls to face his own fears, insecurities, and imperfections, and enjoy the nietzschean struggle to overcome them) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708824) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:21 AM Author: Electric shrine You got me. Unlike all the other megapoasters on an obscure race realist chatblog, I'm not a 6'4" Übermensch who played college football before serving six years in the military. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708846) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:21 AM Author: aquamarine submissive principal's office party of the first part Only on xo do you get savaged for admitting that you haven’t completely self-actualized (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708856) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:53 AM Author: amethyst drunken dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709518) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:09 AM Author: Rambunctious comical sneaky criminal (guy who also doesn't have the balls to face his limitations because he turns his purported introspection into a striverish keeping up with the Jones contest and thinks he's engaged in a Nietzschean struggle to overcome something when really he's just being a jealous fag) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709241) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:26 AM Author: chocolate learning disabled giraffe It was a joke btw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708889) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:33 AM Author: Electric shrine Well, great, now we can identify another way I'm defective FMA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708942) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:33 AM Author: racy cyan gay wizard fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708944) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:00 AM Author: chocolate learning disabled giraffe Happy Friday (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709180) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:14 AM Author: Rambunctious comical sneaky criminal The only reason the joke is funny is because of the grain of truth that it is annoying, and can be maddening, but also useful to be keenly aware of one's limitations. But in reality that deeper knowledge of one's limitations for high IQs generally comes from being put in a hive with other high achievers, so it's all ultimately just jealousy. Being a 140 IQ kid in a school full of 90 IQ kids usually results in pure meltdown craziness, because it's like being in solitary for your brain. This is the best argument against Big State U for legit 150+ IQ people, but it's an argument for Big State U for 130ish IQs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709268) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:32 AM Author: Bonkers piazza it's not even a joke though, being aware of your own limitations is just a useful and desirable thing full stop. if this kind of stuff bothers you (in the general, not you specifically) then you need to just stop being a pussy.
smart people are always joking about how we would be happier as clueless dummies, but in reality, we would never trade places with some prole dullard - even if it did mean a guarantee of increased happiness.
seeing the world for what it is will always be a blessing, even if it's painful sometimes |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:35 AM Author: chocolate learning disabled giraffe Yeah, this is true. I like to have on hand people, pills, or tech to balance out my suboptimal tendencies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709392) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:57 AM Author: Electric shrine I mean, is it? If I'm falling off the side of the Empire State Building but completely oblivious to my fate, then I can enjoy the ride and the wind in my hair for a few seconds. If I know I'm about to go splat, I'll be terrified and miserable. You might as well be oblivious since there's nothing you can do.
An absurd example, sure. But suppose you're a middling professional living in a declining empire and completely powerless to meaningfully interact with any of the myriad existential threats facing the civilized world and, perhaps, the species as a whole. Because that's the modal 'successful' XO poaster. Is it really better to be aware of that or would it better if it was possible to not think and just enjoy the ride? |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:18 PM Author: Bonkers piazza "Is it really better to be aware of that or would it better if it was possible to not think and just enjoy the ride?"
yes, yes it is. once you grow some balls, you're able to "enjoy the ride" just as much as the clueless proles. someone who is genuinely intelligent is able to be disciplined enough to avoid being "terrified and miserable" about the world around them.
believe it or not, proles are constantly worried about shit that they don't understand. it's not easy for them, either. |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:03 PM Author: Rambunctious comical sneaky criminal Awareness of limitations is not the same thing as acceptance and calm, focused energy toward addressing one's limitations. Awareness is only desirable if you have the capacity to take the information in and make use of it in a productive way that benefits you. Realizing you suck in certain ways and having that knowledge eat at you and make you even worse is not a better outcome than just assuming you're better than you actually are. In fact, many of the most successful, highest achieving people in the world are the most convincing examples of the benefits of thinking too highly of yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709593) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:23 PM Author: Beady-eyed set if youre an intellectually curious person and smart enough to address your issues and not let ego take over - you will be honest with yourself, address your issues, and live a better life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710759) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:23 AM Author: Slippery ape boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708866) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:22 PM Author: gaped dull gaping chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710748) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:12 AM Author: pale sanctuary indirect expression Mine is alcoholism and egocentrism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708323) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:19 AM Author: aquamarine submissive principal's office party of the first part Goes deeper on the former for sure, maybe letter ttoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708831) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:11 AM Author: Excitant zombie-like corner I think even dumb people understand genetics on a rudimentary level (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708783) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:17 AM Author: Umber hairraiser hairy legs friendly grandma Wrong. They can't make the connection between cause and effect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708823) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:19 AM Author: aquamarine submissive principal's office party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708833) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:23 AM Author: Electric shrine "Bad test taking" really is mostly flame, particularly for standardized multiple choice testing. The right answer is given to you and you either have the substantive/procedural knowledge to identify it or not. Beyond a modicum of test taking skills that can be learned in an afternoon, you're not "bad at test taking," the test just accurately determined your aptitude at whatever it was testing.
Shit, we should spread this flame to other topics. "Oh, no, I don't have HIV. The test just says I do because I'm bad at tests." |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:25 AM Author: Disgusting Kitchen Blood Rage I feel that I am a "good test taker" in the sense that I can use "test taking skills" to deduce the correct answer despite the fact that I lack actual knowledge of the correct answer.
It seems to me that if I can be a good test taker, somebody else can be a bad test taker. |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:28 AM Author: Electric shrine There is a tiny amount of this, but it only helps because you have at least some background knowledge and these "test taking skills" are simple enough that they can be learned pretty quickly. If you went into the MCATs (the medical school test which unlike the LSAT's tests substantive knowledge) blind without the substantive knowledge, your good test-taking skills wouldn't do shit. Similarly, if you went into MCAT with perfect medical knowledge and no test taking skills, you'd get a perfect score. So pretending for a moment that the MCAT is scored on the LSAT scale, test taking skills might be the difference between a 170 and a 175 but they don't explain why somebody got a 135. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708906) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:30 AM Author: Disgusting Kitchen Blood Rage I agree that "test taking skills" matter at the margins, but marginal differences between test scores are very meaningful! the difference between a 175 and a 170 on the LSAT is substantial and life-changing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708920) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:33 AM Author: Electric shrine Sure, I don't think we disagree then. The thing is, "oh I'm bad at test taking" is usually used by people who got a 145 but are sure they "deserve" a 170. This was super common in my high school for people who bombed the SAT and (under the scale that was used at the time) was supposed to explain their 400 point underperformance LJL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708939) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:29 AM Author: Translucent community account same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708913) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:22 PM Author: Umber hairraiser hairy legs friendly grandma if that's the case, which I'm doubting from the reasoning displayed in your poast, it's because of innate intelligence not some extrinsic skill you learned completely detached from your intelligence.
your proposed bad test taker would be someone who has the knowledge to answer the question but somehow second guesses themselves or something to manage to get the answer wrong. the proposition that this is caused by some unfamiliarity with tests rather than a lack of intelligence is, in my view, specious at best |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:24 PM Author: fragrant market Yeah exactly. I had so much trouble trying to teach the lsat because so much of my process was intuitive and hard to explain (eg, picking answers because I see the other options are wrong vs waiting until I know why a given choice is correct).
Also it seems possible that some people are smart but have terrible poise crack under time pressure. |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 3:05 PM Author: Umber hairraiser hairy legs friendly grandma your first point shows that you didn't have a true mastery of the subject matter. being able to cogently explain why something is correct takes more intellectual hp than merely figuring out that one answer is better than the others.
the latter point is nonsensical: the time pressure is a primary diagnostic of the test since the ability to figure things out quickly is indicative of higher intelligence |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:50 AM Author: disturbing degenerate stage funny that we're all talking about shit like test taking as 30 year olds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709488) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:57 AM Author: Electric shrine Woah there, this is still primarily a law school admissions boart. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709557) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:02 PM Author: disturbing degenerate stage sometimes i forget that's what it's all about, true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709587) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:20 PM Author: Gold Antidepressant Drug Famous Landscape Painting You stopped? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710737) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:16 PM Author: sexy at-the-ready church What about people who think they’re miserably unhappy because they didn’t meet their wife at age 13 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709655) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:26 PM Author: Shimmering impertinent hospital fat ankles Don’t be mean to lawman8 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710781) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:27 PM Author: dead burgundy indian lodge rigor I really like it here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710796) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:51 PM Author: well-lubricated balding roommate rehab "not photogenic" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34714790) |