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NYT: Steve Bannon is Bad for the Jews

The Zionist Organization of America feted Stephen K. Bannon ...
Bearded orchestra pit sweet tailpipe
  11/17/17
(((They))) don't hide it anymore. That's how much power they...
Umber Mildly Autistic Stage
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Bannon’s alt-right views — his opposition to free trade, a l...
marvelous partner
  11/17/17
"Hey, we know that's us! You can't be against that stu...
cerebral white hairy legs
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Out-of-control telephone
  11/17/17
Chances they write shit like this about Al Sharpton or Jesse...
cerebral white hairy legs
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Dun Associate Stag Film
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Well that wouldn't advance the agenda... Just like a lot of...
Cyan Odious Sanctuary
  11/17/17
Jews are bad for the Jews
alcoholic rehab crotch
  11/17/17
no shit. they just don't know when to quit
thriller kitchen water buffalo
  11/17/17
Here's my take on articles like these: "Hi, I'm going t...
Cyan Odious Sanctuary
  11/17/17
that is a good point
Bearded orchestra pit sweet tailpipe
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Cobalt shaky people who are hurt home
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And take a wild guess at what the result was?
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Cobalt shaky people who are hurt home
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My point is - terrible for run of the mill Jews, nbd for the...
Cyan Odious Sanctuary
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WOKE
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Also, there appears to be a segment of Jews that love this s...
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Cobalt shaky people who are hurt home
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That would be the end of this nonsense, no?
Cyan Odious Sanctuary
  11/17/17
There is also another Solution
marvelous partner
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Always a pumo... Also, Pepito isn't going to like your solu...
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Simply put, support for Israel is a necessary but not suffic...
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all jews must hang
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...and good for america
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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:24 AM
Author: Bearded orchestra pit sweet tailpipe

The Zionist Organization of America feted Stephen K. Bannon at a gala dinner in New York on Sunday night. What a disgrace.

What a mistake, too.

It’s a disgrace because no organization that purports to represent the interests of the Jewish people should ever embrace anyone who embraces anti-Semites. Jews have enemies enough. To provide those enemies with moral cover for the sake of political convenience or ideology corroborates the worst anti-Semitic stereotypes and strengthens the hand of those who mean us harm.

That means that when a far-left group such as Jewish Voice for Peace makes common cause with someone like Linda Sarsour — the Palestinian-American activist who advocates the elimination of Israel as a Jewish state and publicly praised a convicted terrorist — it disqualifies itself as an advocate of any Jewish interest save its own. To deny Israel’s right to exist, as U.N. Secretary General António Guterres noted in April, is “a form of modern anti-Semitism.”

It also means that when a right-wing Jewish group such as the ZOA chooses to overlook Bannon’s well-documented links to anti-Semitic white nationalists, it puts itself on a moral par with J.V.P. Bannon is the man who expressly called Breitbart News “the platform for the alt-right,” knowing full-well the toxic range of opinion encompassed by the term. Bannon is also the guy who only last month got around to disavowing his long and productive association with Milo Yiannopoulos, neo-Nazi Richard Spencer’s favorite chanteur.

Spencer thinks Jews have no place in the United States. Breitbart has sung the praises of Spencer. Bannon knows all this because he edited the article that sung those praises. Connect the dots.

That, however, is something the ZOA has seemed unwilling to do, on the theory that Bannon is a self-declared, and possibly even sincere, supporter of the Jewish state. On Sunday he called himself a “Christian Zionist,” and praised Israel as “one of the greatest nations on earth and the foundation of the Judeo-Christian West.”

But just as there are anti-Zionist Jews, there are also anti-Semitic Zionists. The Nazis initially endorsed the idea of getting German Jews to shove off to Mandated Palestine. Spencer calls himself a “white Zionist,” on the factitious theory that Israel is the sort of ethno-nationalist state he’d like to see America become.

Simply put, support for Israel is a necessary but not sufficient condition for being a friend to Jews. (Richard Nixon, who was nothing if not an ally of Israel in its time of need, was known to tell aides that “most Jews are disloyal” and that “you can’t trust the bastards.”) That distinction may not trouble the right-wing ZOA audience that gave Bannon a standing ovation, but it should profoundly alarm all Jews who call themselves pro-Israel.

Why? Two reasons. Unlike Nixon, whose anti-Semitism seems to have been of a knee-jerk and atavistic variety, Bannon’s alt-right views — his opposition to free trade, a liberal immigration policy, “international bankers,” “corporatist global media” — are consonant with a sinister worldview that always finds a way to get back to a certain class of rootless cosmopolitans. His is not a personal bigotry so much as it is an ideological obsession. Its potential for destructiveness is that much greater.

The second reason is that political support for Israel is too important to tarnish through association with the likes of Bannon or European kindred spirits such as Holland’s Geert Wilders or Hungary’s Viktor Orban. Israel is not a latter-day Crusader kingdom holding out against a 21st-century Mahometan horde. It is a small democracy trying to uphold a set of liberal values against autocrats and religious fanatics sworn to its destruction. Zionists love Israel because of the way in which it brings together the values of individual freedom and Jewish civilization, not because of some blood and soil nationalism.

If Israel is going to retain mainstream political support, it cannot allow itself to become the pet cause of right-wing bigots and conspiracy theorists. That requires putting serious distance between Bannon and every pro-Israel organization, to say nothing of the Israeli government itself, by refusing to provide a platform for him and his ilk. Personal and national reputations alike always depend on the company one keeps. Not every would-be supporter deserves consideration as a friend.

That thought may have dawned on Sheldon Adelson, who skipped Sunday’s dinner and seems belatedly to have realized — too late for much comfort — how destructive Bannon and his brand of arsonist politics have become to the Republican Party and the causes it used to champion. The thought needs to dawn, too, on right-of-center Jews who have become so attuned to dangers from the woke-left that they have tuned out dangers from the alt-right.

Anti-Semitism is both the socialism of fools and the conservatism of creeps. If the past century holds a lesson for Jews, it’s to beware every form of illiberalism, including the illiberalism of those who purport to be on our side. Repair of the world may not be the central teaching of Judaism. But it’s always wise to stay far from those who wish to tear it asunder.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/opinion/steve-bannon-israel-anti-semitism.html?_r=0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34708871)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:26 AM
Author: Umber Mildly Autistic Stage

(((They))) don't hide it anymore. That's how much power they have or think they have. They aren't afraid of an uprising.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34708888)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:30 AM
Author: marvelous partner

Bannon’s alt-right views — his opposition to free trade, a liberal immigration policy, “international bankers,” “corporatist global media” — are consonant with a sinister worldview that always finds a way to get back to a certain class of rootless cosmopolitans.

Bannon’s alt-right views — his opposition to free trade, a liberal immigration policy, “international bankers,” “corporatist global media” — are consonant with a sinister worldview that always finds a way to get back to a certain class of rootless cosmopolitans.

Bannon’s alt-right views — his opposition to free trade, a liberal immigration policy, “international bankers,” “corporatist global media” — are consonant with a sinister worldview that always finds a way to get back to a certain class of rootless cosmopolitans.

Bannon’s alt-right views — his opposition to free trade, a liberal immigration policy, “international bankers,” “corporatist global media” — are consonant with a sinister worldview that always finds a way to get back to a certain class of rootless cosmopolitans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34708916)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:34 AM
Author: cerebral white hairy legs

"Hey, we know that's us! You can't be against that stuff without being an anti-semite!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34708951)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:42 AM
Author: Out-of-control telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709017)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:30 AM
Author: cerebral white hairy legs

Chances they write shit like this about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, who are susceptible to the exact same argument (or worse)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34708921)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:34 AM
Author: Dun Associate Stag Film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34708955)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:45 AM
Author: Cyan Odious Sanctuary

Well that wouldn't advance the agenda... Just like a lot of the "sexual harassment" narrative ignores a variety of other massive abuses of power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709057)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:31 AM
Author: alcoholic rehab crotch

Jews are bad for the Jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34708928)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:35 AM
Author: thriller kitchen water buffalo

no shit. they just don't know when to quit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34708960)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:38 AM
Author: Cyan Odious Sanctuary

Here's my take on articles like these: "Hi, I'm going to speak on behalf of all Jews and make a huge portion of society hate Jews, even if they didn't before (or were merely suspicious - this will just confirm their worst fears). I'm probably from an elite class that will leave if the shit hits the fan, but a bunch of other Jews won't be able to, and idgaf."

I'm actually surprised run of the mill Jews don't get POed when they see this shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34708990)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:42 AM
Author: Bearded orchestra pit sweet tailpipe

that is a good point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709019)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:42 AM
Author: Cobalt shaky people who are hurt home



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: Cyan Odious Sanctuary

And take a wild guess at what the result was?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709045)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:47 AM
Author: Cobalt shaky people who are hurt home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709080)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Cyan Odious Sanctuary

My point is - terrible for run of the mill Jews, nbd for the elites that just left and that are obviously the beneficiaries of this nonsense to begin with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709121)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:54 AM
Author: Titillating resort sound barrier

WOKE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709134)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:57 AM
Author: Cyan Odious Sanctuary

Also, there appears to be a segment of Jews that love this shit because it actually prevents Jewish integration (if everyone hates Jews, Jews end up separate and maybe even get driven towards Israel). It is pretty fucked up when you think about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709154)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: Cobalt shaky people who are hurt home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709161)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: Cyan Odious Sanctuary

That would be the end of this nonsense, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709173)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:06 AM
Author: marvelous partner

There is also another Solution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709223)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Cyan Odious Sanctuary

Always a pumo... Also, Pepito isn't going to like your solution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709245)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:45 AM
Author: Vengeful coldplay fan



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: Umber Mildly Autistic Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709036)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:36 AM
Author: Misunderstood parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709399)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:39 AM
Author: Cobalt shaky people who are hurt home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34708992)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:42 AM
Author: Out-of-control telephone

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709029)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:46 AM
Author: Cobalt shaky people who are hurt home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709070)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: sick indirect expression

Simply put, support for Israel is a necessary but not sufficient condition for being a friend to Jews.

Simply put, support for Israel is a necessary but not sufficient condition for being a friend to Jews.

Simply put, support for Israel is a necessary but not sufficient condition for being a friend to Jews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709196)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:22 AM
Author: Arrogant school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709320)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:42 AM
Author: Out-of-control telephone



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:43 AM
Author: Titillating resort sound barrier



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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:21 PM
Author: Umber Mildly Autistic Stage

all jews must hang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709692)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: Curious Bespoke Shrine Athletic Conference



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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: Cobalt shaky people who are hurt home



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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: Curious Bespoke Shrine Athletic Conference

...and good for america

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709700)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:26 PM
Author: Umber Mildly Autistic Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800516&forum_id=2#34709729)