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What was molecular tipping point from great ape to human with free will?

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Hyperventilating dragon sneaky criminal
  11/21/17
I don't see conscious free will as having "injected&quo...
Hilarious pea-brained school
  11/21/17
probably when social learning allowed complex behaviors to b...
up-to-no-good whorehouse
  11/21/17
Wow so could we freeze frame this .00001 second in time? See...
Hyperventilating dragon sneaky criminal
  11/21/17
i don't think thats the right framework to think about it. y...
up-to-no-good whorehouse
  11/21/17
It may not be a category mistake, depending on your premises
Charcoal rehab
  11/21/17
what premises might those be? you could define a model wh...
up-to-no-good whorehouse
  11/21/17
Why are you assuming apes don't have free will?
Charcoal rehab
  11/21/17
Why is he assuming humans do?
chartreuse french sex offender cuckold
  11/21/17
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Racy Bisexual Theatre Private Investor
  11/21/17
fair enough but point still stands....just from whatever org...
Hyperventilating dragon sneaky criminal
  11/21/17
stoned ape hypothesis: it happened via rapid neurogenesis wh...
Bat-shit-crazy bawdyhouse prole
  11/21/17
Mckenna didn't get the message that lamarck was wrong
Charcoal rehab
  11/21/17
BOMB THE US GOVERNMENT BOMB THE US GOVERNMENT BOMB THE US GO...
disturbing alcoholic abode
  11/21/17
The jump wasn’t “great ape”—>huma...
Passionate White Nursing Home Partner
  06/01/23


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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:33 PM
Author: Hyperventilating dragon sneaky criminal



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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:35 PM
Author: Hilarious pea-brained school

I don't see conscious free will as having "injected" itself in to, or molecularly built up over time. Rather, conscious free will was always there, but the apparatus by which it interfaced with reality was still primitive. And this is true of the great apes as much as it is true for all living creatures. My belief is in consciousness as an immutable, indestructable, eternal entity that transmigrates through various life forms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743720)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:33 PM
Author: up-to-no-good whorehouse

probably when social learning allowed complex behaviors to be taught, shared, and learned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743691)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Hyperventilating dragon sneaky criminal

Wow so could we freeze frame this .00001 second in time? Seems likr there has to be an incremental, marginal moment where this change happened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743706)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:36 PM
Author: up-to-no-good whorehouse

i don't think thats the right framework to think about it. you might say it's a category error

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743732)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:37 PM
Author: Charcoal rehab

It may not be a category mistake, depending on your premises

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743759)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:49 PM
Author: up-to-no-good whorehouse

what premises might those be?

you could define a model where the tipping point was defined to be some arbitrary % of humans had some capacity, but that would be mostly meaningless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743886)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:35 PM
Author: Charcoal rehab

Why are you assuming apes don't have free will?

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Date: November 21st, 2017 8:21 PM
Author: chartreuse french sex offender cuckold

Why is he assuming humans do?

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Date: November 21st, 2017 8:24 PM
Author: Racy Bisexual Theatre Private Investor



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Date: November 21st, 2017 8:23 PM
Author: Hyperventilating dragon sneaky criminal

fair enough but point still stands....just from whatever organism did not have free will to that which did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34744114)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:35 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy bawdyhouse prole

stoned ape hypothesis: it happened via rapid neurogenesis when proto-humans started eating psychedelic mushrooms (which are very common in Africa, grow out of animal shit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743727)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:38 PM
Author: Charcoal rehab

Mckenna didn't get the message that lamarck was wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743765)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:39 PM
Author: disturbing alcoholic abode

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Date: June 1st, 2023 4:22 PM
Author: Passionate White Nursing Home Partner

The jump wasn’t “great ape”—>human. Apes and humans share a common ancestor, but humans aren’t descended from apes. There were millions of years between that common ancestor and what we are today.

Also free will is total flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#46379973)