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ITT: Most prestigious sport to be best at
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:46 AM Author: smoky digit ratio What athletes are most prestigious, specifically those at the top of their sport (i.e. being a middle-of-the-road boxer may not be very prestigious at all in comparison to your average tennis player, but Floyd Mayweather might be more prestigious than Rafa Nadal; it's the latter comparison I'm asking for)?
Please also include how you weight the following criteria: - reliance on team (or lack thereof) - skill difficulty - athleticism demanded - real world benefits (Anderson Silva will never lose a street fight, but Jordan Spieth could get the shit beaten out of him; LeBron will be good at virtually anything athletic IRL, whereas Tom Brady probably wouldn't be) - money and lifestyle afforded
My criteria are something like this in importance: - reliance on team: 8/10 - skill difficulty: 7/10 - athleticism demanded: 9/10 - real world benefits: 9/10 - money and lifestyle afforded: 2/10
I'm going with one of these: - Swimming: no team reliance, very high level of athleticism demanded - Tennis: extremely high skill difficulty, decently high athleticism demanded, decent lifestyle, no team reliance - Boxing/MMA: extremely high skill difficulty, extremely high athleticism demanded, no team reliance, excellent real world benefit, particularly great lifestyle w/boxing - Basketball: High skill difficulty, moderately high athleticism demanded, great real world benefits (good hand/eye coordination and athleticism), nice lifestyle - Water polo: unbelievable athleticism demanded, high skill difficulty, decent real world benefits (primarily due to being incredibly well rounded athletically) - Gymnastics: very high levels of skill difficulty and athleticism, decent real world benefits due to athleticism and cool factor, no reliance on team
Would probably choose Boxing/MMA. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:50 AM Author: Mind-boggling Mood Plaza Gymnastics is absolutely out because any "overall athleticism" points you gain are negated by the fact that you have to be a manlet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746348) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:57 AM Author: smoky digit ratio yeah, maybe. Idk, height isn't as big a deal to me as it seems to be to everyone else on the bort. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746363) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:08 AM Author: Mind-boggling Mood Plaza Height is truly important, but the board overstates the impact of being say 5'10" vs. 6' but gymnasts are fucking tiny, like 5'5" that would be killself territory out in the real world |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:15 AM Author: smoky digit ratio Fair enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746392) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 AM Author: smoky digit ratio Hm, criteria? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746423) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:44 AM Author: Thriller balding crotch alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746452) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:51 AM Author: smoky digit ratio IK Krav Maga, not the other one though. Looking into it now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746596) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 AM Author: smoky digit ratio why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746424) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:49 AM Author: glassy whorehouse nibblets b/c ur chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746458) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:10 AM Author: startling haunting mother For the US it's either football or basketball. And David Shaw said most football players would rather be basketball players but couldn't hack it, so I'll go with that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746384) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:14 AM Author: Mind-boggling Mood Plaza far less risk of injury, which is a huge plus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746389) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:37 AM Author: Stirring pea-brained property dopamine shit basketball players get paid far more than any other sport + guaranteed contracts + lack of incoming talent each year are the biggest draws. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746440) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:29 AM Author: Outnumbered burgundy chapel egregious exclusion of hockey
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:50 AM Author: smoky digit ratio I excluded hockey because it's highly team reliant; it's rare for one person to take over a game, so it's less prestigious because even the best are less dominant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746594) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:59 AM Author: Concupiscible roommate It's rare, but you watch some old clips of people like Gretzky and it's very wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747252) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:00 AM Author: cordovan rehab olympic swimming/diving (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746474) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:01 AM Author: smoky digit ratio Hm. What makes it more athletically demanding than boxing/MMA/basketball? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746606) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:32 AM Author: fragrant sienna shitlib scourge upon the earth Surfing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746493) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:02 AM Author: smoky digit ratio hm. explain why the strength/speed/force generation required by surfing are comparable to football/basketball/boxing/MMA, or why you think that's a poor metric for athletic difficulty.
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:54 AM Author: Alcoholic french chef Boxing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746599) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:00 AM Author: smoky digit ratio I'm assuming you exclude MMA bc 1) lesser money, 2) shorter fights. Please compare the overall athleticism required by MMA and boxing, as well as explain why you think money is better criteria than real world benefit (where MMA fighters kick boxers' around pretty handily). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746605) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:08 AM Author: Alcoholic french chef lol MMA is for retards, requires no skill, and is basically homos wrestling in underwear.
It's two completely distinct sports. Boxing has a rich history and is a sport for gentleman. MMA is for retards. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:16 AM Author: shimmering painfully honest stag film rigpig crude but accurate analysis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746828) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:51 AM Author: smoky digit ratio You're correct about the clear distinction between them, as well as boxing's rich history. On everything else, you're wrong.
If you're actually arguing that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai (currently the most influential martial arts in MMA) require no skill, then this is a pointless argument. If you're arguing that the combined practice of those and other martial arts is useless, that's inane. If you're arguing that an MMA fighter wouldn't destroy a boxer in a fight outside a ring, you're deluding yourself.
If prizefighting is supposed to measure skill through ability to incapacitate your opponent (which is the principle boxing is based on), how is MMA not a more complete measure of skill? |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:06 AM Author: amethyst partner BJJ & Muay Thai are clearly more useful IRL because they incorporate more than punching. MMA is appealing because there are fewer rules, so it more closely resembles a street fight.
I'm not 100% convinced that MMA fighters univeresally would annihilate boxers in a no rules street fight. For defensive boxers, this is probably true, but what about a fucker like Roberto Duran? Roy Jones? MMA fighters study boxing and striking too. Many of them, were they elite level punchers or boxers would have gone that route, as there is more money to be made.
Prizefighting is supposed to measure skill through the ability to hit and not get hit within the Marquess of Queensberry rules. That is what makes is an art, a chess match if you will. Each fighter's will and strategy tested as the fight unfolds over 12 rounds is what makes the sport appealing.
Not to take anything away from MMA, but it is crude and often unpleasant to watch. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:04 AM Author: Shivering stain selfie you are laughably wrong about the lack of skill required in wrestling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747272) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:14 AM Author: smoky digit ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754875) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:54 AM Author: Titillating Ladyboy swimming for a man, figure skating for a woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746601) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:57 AM Author: smoky digit ratio compare swimming to boxing/MMA and explain your rationale. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746603) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:13 AM Author: Idiotic offensive theatre Rugby league forward. Power, size, fitness, skill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746626) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:27 AM Author: smoky digit ratio Yeah, probably should've included them in my top five. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746660) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:27 AM Author: amethyst partner Not going to go through your criteria. The answer is soccer.
Messi and Ronaldo are international icons and superstars in a way that no other athlete in any other sport is. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:32 AM Author: Wine pocket flask Boxing, the way to earn the most money by being the best in the world at a sport.
Golf, you can play at at elite level and earn for going on 40 years. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:54 AM Author: amethyst partner Yes, the best fighter always gets paid the most. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747226) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:58 AM Author: smoky digit ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747247) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:40 AM Author: drab bbw If in the US, basketball. If in any other country, soccer. If you’re the best in the world at either sport, you are guaranteed to be a worldwide household name and global phenomenon in terms of branding. No other sport guarantees that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747156) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:54 AM Author: electric indian lodge background story Strongman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747229) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:17 AM Author: smoky digit ratio Hadn't considered strongman tbh. Not a bad answer though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754878) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:02 AM Author: Shivering stain selfie I'm not even a huge boxing fan, but it's hard to argue with boxing as the top choice here. Exceedingly prestigious to be the best in the world, even if boxing is quite unprestigious at the lower levels. It's almost like acting in that way.
I also think being the best skier in the world is underrated. Those guys are unbelievable athletes, no team reliance, pretty good real world attributes, etc. The money is not quite as good as other sports though. |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 AM Author: smoky digit ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754879) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:04 AM Author: rambunctious private investor locus Water polo, if you really think about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747271) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:16 AM Author: smoky digit ratio Pretty legit answer. The more I know about it, the more inclined I am to agree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754877) |