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ITT: Most prestigious sport to be best at

What athletes are most prestigious, specifically those at th...
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
Sex
demanding sapphire chad
  11/22/17
Gymnastics is absolutely out because any "overall athle...
Costumed office
  11/22/17
yeah, maybe. Idk, height isn't as big a deal to me as it see...
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
Height is truly important, but the board overstates the impa...
Costumed office
  11/22/17
Fair enough.
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
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vengeful site mediation
  11/22/17
Hm, criteria?
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
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vengeful site mediation
  11/22/17
IK Krav Maga, not the other one though. Looking into it now....
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
lax
chest-beating church
  11/22/17
why?
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
b/c ur chad
bipolar hilarious locale
  11/22/17
For the US it's either football or basketball. And David Sha...
Heady mexican
  11/22/17
far less risk of injury, which is a huge plus
Costumed office
  11/22/17
shit basketball players get paid far more than any other spo...
Bistre hall electric furnace
  11/22/17
egregious exclusion of hockey
saffron patrolman
  11/22/17
I excluded hockey because it's highly team reliant; it's rar...
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
It's rare, but you watch some old clips of people like Gretz...
Silver Background Story Theatre
  11/22/17
olympic swimming/diving
Crimson Spot Doctorate
  11/22/17
Hm. What makes it more athletically demanding than boxing/MM...
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
Surfing
fragrant bronze orchestra pit milk
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hm. explain why the strength/speed/force generation required...
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
Boxing.
jet box office prole
  11/22/17
I'm assuming you exclude MMA bc 1) lesser money, 2) shorter ...
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
lol MMA is for retards, requires no skill, and is basically ...
jet box office prole
  11/22/17
crude but accurate analysis
Cerise indirect expression goyim
  11/22/17
You're correct about the clear distinction between them, as ...
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
BJJ & Muay Thai are clearly more useful IRL because they...
Glittery garnet bawdyhouse
  11/22/17
you are laughably wrong about the lack of skill required in ...
Brass Misunderstood Range Jew
  11/22/17
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Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/23/17
swimming for a man, figure skating for a woman
claret alcoholic lodge sweet tailpipe
  11/22/17
compare swimming to boxing/MMA and explain your rationale.
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
Rugby league forward. Power, size, fitness, skill
Odious geriatric idea he suggested
  11/22/17
Yeah, probably should've included them in my top five.
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
Hunting
Stirring cocky affirmative action
  11/22/17
Not going to go through your criteria. The answer is soccer....
Glittery garnet bawdyhouse
  11/22/17
Boxing, the way to earn the most money by being the best in ...
Bossy clown old irish cottage
  11/22/17
Yes, the best fighter always gets paid the most.
Glittery garnet bawdyhouse
  11/22/17
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Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/22/17
polo
Ivory People Who Are Hurt
  11/22/17
If in the US, basketball. If in any other country, soccer. I...
180 scarlet whorehouse regret
  11/22/17
Strongman
kink-friendly parlor french chef
  11/22/17
Hadn't considered strongman tbh. Not a bad answer though.
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/23/17
I'm not even a huge boxing fan, but it's hard to argue with ...
Brass Misunderstood Range Jew
  11/22/17
...
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/23/17
Water polo, if you really think about it.
beta translucent macaca
  11/22/17
Pretty legit answer. The more I know about it, the more incl...
Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier
  11/23/17


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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:46 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

What athletes are most prestigious, specifically those at the top of their sport (i.e. being a middle-of-the-road boxer may not be very prestigious at all in comparison to your average tennis player, but Floyd Mayweather might be more prestigious than Rafa Nadal; it's the latter comparison I'm asking for)?

Please also include how you weight the following criteria:

- reliance on team (or lack thereof)

- skill difficulty

- athleticism demanded

- real world benefits (Anderson Silva will never lose a street fight, but Jordan Spieth could get the shit beaten out of him; LeBron will be good at virtually anything athletic IRL, whereas Tom Brady probably wouldn't be)

- money and lifestyle afforded

My criteria are something like this in importance:

- reliance on team: 8/10

- skill difficulty: 7/10

- athleticism demanded: 9/10

- real world benefits: 9/10

- money and lifestyle afforded: 2/10

I'm going with one of these:

- Swimming: no team reliance, very high level of athleticism demanded

- Tennis: extremely high skill difficulty, decently high athleticism demanded, decent lifestyle, no team reliance

- Boxing/MMA: extremely high skill difficulty, extremely high athleticism demanded, no team reliance, excellent real world benefit, particularly great lifestyle w/boxing

- Basketball: High skill difficulty, moderately high athleticism demanded, great real world benefits (good hand/eye coordination and athleticism), nice lifestyle

- Water polo: unbelievable athleticism demanded, high skill difficulty, decent real world benefits (primarily due to being incredibly well rounded athletically)

- Gymnastics: very high levels of skill difficulty and athleticism, decent real world benefits due to athleticism and cool factor, no reliance on team

Would probably choose Boxing/MMA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746344)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:50 AM
Author: demanding sapphire chad

Sex

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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:50 AM
Author: Costumed office

Gymnastics is absolutely out because any "overall athleticism" points you gain are negated by the fact that you have to be a manlet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746348)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:57 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

yeah, maybe. Idk, height isn't as big a deal to me as it seems to be to everyone else on the bort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746363)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:08 AM
Author: Costumed office

Height is truly important, but the board overstates the impact of being say 5'10" vs. 6'

but gymnasts are fucking tiny, like 5'5"

that would be killself territory out in the real world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746381)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:15 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

Fair enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746392)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:07 AM
Author: vengeful site mediation



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

Hm, criteria?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746423)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:44 AM
Author: vengeful site mediation



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:51 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

IK Krav Maga, not the other one though. Looking into it now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746596)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:08 AM
Author: chest-beating church

lax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746378)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746424)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:49 AM
Author: bipolar hilarious locale

b/c ur chad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746458)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:10 AM
Author: Heady mexican

For the US it's either football or basketball. And David Shaw said most football players would rather be basketball players but couldn't hack it, so I'll go with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746384)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:14 AM
Author: Costumed office

far less risk of injury, which is a huge plus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746389)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:37 AM
Author: Bistre hall electric furnace

shit basketball players get paid far more than any other sport + guaranteed contracts + lack of incoming talent each year are the biggest draws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746440)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:29 AM
Author: saffron patrolman

egregious exclusion of hockey



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746426)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:50 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

I excluded hockey because it's highly team reliant; it's rare for one person to take over a game, so it's less prestigious because even the best are less dominant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746594)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:59 AM
Author: Silver Background Story Theatre

It's rare, but you watch some old clips of people like Gretzky and it's very wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747252)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:00 AM
Author: Crimson Spot Doctorate

olympic swimming/diving

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746474)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:01 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

Hm. What makes it more athletically demanding than boxing/MMA/basketball?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746606)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:32 AM
Author: fragrant bronze orchestra pit milk

Surfing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746493)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:02 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

hm. explain why the strength/speed/force generation required by surfing are comparable to football/basketball/boxing/MMA, or why you think that's a poor metric for athletic difficulty.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746607)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:54 AM
Author: jet box office prole

Boxing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746599)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:00 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

I'm assuming you exclude MMA bc 1) lesser money, 2) shorter fights. Please compare the overall athleticism required by MMA and boxing, as well as explain why you think money is better criteria than real world benefit (where MMA fighters kick boxers' around pretty handily).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746605)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:08 AM
Author: jet box office prole

lol MMA is for retards, requires no skill, and is basically homos wrestling in underwear.

It's two completely distinct sports. Boxing has a rich history and is a sport for gentleman. MMA is for retards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746615)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:16 AM
Author: Cerise indirect expression goyim

crude but accurate analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746828)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:51 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

You're correct about the clear distinction between them, as well as boxing's rich history. On everything else, you're wrong.

If you're actually arguing that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai (currently the most influential martial arts in MMA) require no skill, then this is a pointless argument. If you're arguing that the combined practice of those and other martial arts is useless, that's inane. If you're arguing that an MMA fighter wouldn't destroy a boxer in a fight outside a ring, you're deluding yourself.

If prizefighting is supposed to measure skill through ability to incapacitate your opponent (which is the principle boxing is based on), how is MMA not a more complete measure of skill?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747206)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:06 AM
Author: Glittery garnet bawdyhouse

BJJ & Muay Thai are clearly more useful IRL because they incorporate more than punching. MMA is appealing because there are fewer rules, so it more closely resembles a street fight.

I'm not 100% convinced that MMA fighters univeresally would annihilate boxers in a no rules street fight. For defensive boxers, this is probably true, but what about a fucker like Roberto Duran? Roy Jones? MMA fighters study boxing and striking too. Many of them, were they elite level punchers or boxers would have gone that route, as there is more money to be made.

Prizefighting is supposed to measure skill through the ability to hit and not get hit within the Marquess of Queensberry rules. That is what makes is an art, a chess match if you will. Each fighter's will and strategy tested as the fight unfolds over 12 rounds is what makes the sport appealing.

Not to take anything away from MMA, but it is crude and often unpleasant to watch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747283)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:04 AM
Author: Brass Misunderstood Range Jew

you are laughably wrong about the lack of skill required in wrestling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747272)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:14 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:54 AM
Author: claret alcoholic lodge sweet tailpipe

swimming for a man, figure skating for a woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746601)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:57 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

compare swimming to boxing/MMA and explain your rationale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746603)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:13 AM
Author: Odious geriatric idea he suggested

Rugby league forward. Power, size, fitness, skill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746626)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:27 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

Yeah, probably should've included them in my top five.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746660)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:24 AM
Author: Stirring cocky affirmative action

Hunting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746651)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:27 AM
Author: Glittery garnet bawdyhouse

Not going to go through your criteria. The answer is soccer.

Messi and Ronaldo are international icons and superstars in a way that no other athlete in any other sport is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746659)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:32 AM
Author: Bossy clown old irish cottage

Boxing, the way to earn the most money by being the best in the world at a sport.

Golf, you can play at at elite level and earn for going on 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746677)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:54 AM
Author: Glittery garnet bawdyhouse

Yes, the best fighter always gets paid the most.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747226)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:58 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:15 AM
Author: Ivory People Who Are Hurt

polo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746821)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:40 AM
Author: 180 scarlet whorehouse regret

If in the US, basketball. If in any other country, soccer. If you’re the best in the world at either sport, you are guaranteed to be a worldwide household name and global phenomenon in terms of branding. No other sport guarantees that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747156)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:54 AM
Author: kink-friendly parlor french chef

Strongman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747229)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:17 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

Hadn't considered strongman tbh. Not a bad answer though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754878)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:02 AM
Author: Brass Misunderstood Range Jew

I'm not even a huge boxing fan, but it's hard to argue with boxing as the top choice here. Exceedingly prestigious to be the best in the world, even if boxing is quite unprestigious at the lower levels. It's almost like acting in that way.

I also think being the best skier in the world is underrated. Those guys are unbelievable athletes, no team reliance, pretty good real world attributes, etc. The money is not quite as good as other sports though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747261)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:04 AM
Author: beta translucent macaca

Water polo, if you really think about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747271)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:16 AM
Author: Sinister swashbuckling sound barrier

Pretty legit answer. The more I know about it, the more inclined I am to agree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754877)