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mustard cumskin
  11/24/17
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Irradiated Peach Parlor
  11/24/17
I go to church in my best clothes. It makes me feel like a m...
Cerebral Confused Hominid Round Eye
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Irradiated Peach Parlor
  11/24/17
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mustard cumskin
  11/24/17
I'm sure you need reminding.
Nighttime Hell
  11/24/17
lold
Tantric Brethren
  11/24/17
christians are the most gullible people on earth. thats not ...
violent beady-eyed private investor resort
  11/24/17
Never said most of them weren't
mustard cumskin
  11/24/17
*leans into mic* Mormons and Muzzies
excitant ape lodge
  11/24/17
Muslims literally kill themselves thinking they're getting 7...
Crystalline twisted wrinkle
  12/13/17
ive been an atheist since i was 7.
filthy blathering pit
  11/24/17
Can I be atheist but just go to church once in a while and g...
Underhanded apoplectic address
  11/24/17
(richard spencer)
cordovan hairless stock car church building
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deranged business firm mad-dog skullcap
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fluffy prole
  12/13/17
i'm an atheist but I go from time to time just to sing hymns...
Impressive parlour doctorate
  11/24/17
180
abnormal 180 brunch
  11/24/17
i have a really flaming gay friend who does this, even sings...
cordovan hairless stock car church building
  11/24/17
My uber driver talked me into being a Mormon. I made an ap...
laughsome whorehouse goal in life
  11/24/17
Yeah but Protestantism is kind of gay
disturbing shitlib
  11/24/17
Russian orthodoxy is very straight. Priests are all married ...
Underhanded apoplectic address
  11/24/17
There is nothing hot about Russians. Shut your fucking mout...
laughsome whorehouse goal in life
  11/24/17
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/99/b8/7e99b8886acfa5182d96...
federal startled quadroon
  11/24/17
slavs are subhuman and age the worst of any race
Poppy useless gaming laptop
  11/24/17
Not remotely true. I know a bunch of hot Russian girls in t...
federal startled quadroon
  11/24/17
Russians are ugly people. they prize beauty to a retarded de...
Poppy useless gaming laptop
  11/24/17
Oh look, a quotemo talking shit.
federal startled quadroon
  11/24/17
that's Reality Winner lol
Nubile yellow deer antler
  11/24/17
absolutely devastating. nothing is more pathetic than ele...
Tantric Brethren
  11/24/17
You seem gay
laughsome whorehouse goal in life
  11/24/17
Compared to Russian Orthodoxy, it is all kind of gay.
federal startled quadroon
  11/24/17
That's why you are one of the ugliest people on the planet.
laughsome whorehouse goal in life
  11/24/17
Catholicism - priests, little boys, enough said. Typical ...
federal startled quadroon
  11/24/17
Stop conflating Mandy with women
laughsome whorehouse goal in life
  11/24/17
She's a GENETIC female!
federal startled quadroon
  11/24/17
I'll embrace it when I have kids because, well, kids. I've ...
federal startled quadroon
  11/24/17
u are 99 percent probability on the spectrum.
filthy blathering pit
  11/24/17
Thanks captain obvious.
federal startled quadroon
  11/24/17
i thought you were a kike.
french provocative scourge upon the earth organic girlfriend
  11/24/17
You’re a middle aged Jew with a barren shrew for a wife. Kid...
Avocado Stage Halford
  11/24/17
We have 9 frozen embryos and I will have you know that every...
Underhanded apoplectic address
  11/24/17
what does AA 4-5 mean? GF I was on marriage track with he...
Lascivious hyperactive mediation
  11/25/17
These are frozen embryos, not eggs. Not sure it works the s...
federal startled quadroon
  11/26/17
Christianity is 180 but unfortunately JESUS can't keep this ...
deranged business firm mad-dog skullcap
  11/24/17
Pascal's Wager
fuchsia kink-friendly cruise ship
  11/24/17
What's the probability god is a trickster who sends the obed...
green histrionic field
  11/24/17
Such a universe would collapse.
Snowy trailer park
  11/24/17
No man. The rewards in this life are much greater for a Chri...
mustard cumskin
  11/24/17
Tell me more about the rewards.
Tantric Brethren
  11/24/17
A public forum to discuss free will, the nature of mind/soul...
mustard cumskin
  11/24/17
I like not being retarded but yeah the masses definitely nee...
Elite Selfie
  11/24/17
Bro you must be getting tired of the dead end of secularism....
mustard cumskin
  11/24/17
What do you expect me to do? Trick myself into believing? Wo...
Elite Selfie
  11/24/17
No tricks brother. The possibility that your mind is a non-p...
mustard cumskin
  11/24/17
oh wow never heard this before
Elite Selfie
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mustard cumskin
  11/24/17
"I'm a genius, I know god is fake!" *lives prof...
Tantric Brethren
  11/24/17
lol at this being an argument
Elite Selfie
  11/24/17
There are better religions out there. Buddhism is straight ...
Opaque philosopher-king
  11/24/17
While it shares some cr insights it is not without flaws. It...
mustard cumskin
  11/24/17
Well compared to many of the other leading brands these days...
Seedy Generalized Bond Macaca
  11/24/17
How do you guys actually go about finding a church?
Tantric Brethren
  11/24/17
Find your parish boundaries
Snowy trailer park
  11/24/17
lmao so far ITT all the naysaying poasters are literally wel...
Cracking Property New Version
  11/24/17
Providence, actually
Snowy trailer park
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mustard cumskin
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Cracking Property New Version
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Date: November 24th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: mustard cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763172)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: Irradiated Peach Parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763174)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: Cerebral Confused Hominid Round Eye

I go to church in my best clothes. It makes me feel like a man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763213)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: Irradiated Peach Parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763216)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:30 PM
Author: mustard cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763451)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 6:15 PM
Author: Nighttime Hell

I'm sure you need reminding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763946)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:27 PM
Author: Tantric Brethren

lold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765359)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: violent beady-eyed private investor resort

christians are the most gullible people on earth. thats not an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763224)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:30 PM
Author: mustard cumskin

Never said most of them weren't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763453)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:42 PM
Author: excitant ape lodge

*leans into mic*

Mormons and Muzzies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763527)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 12:11 PM
Author: Crystalline twisted wrinkle

Muslims literally kill themselves thinking they're getting 72 virgins after they die because some Sheik on a yacht fucking porn stars and little boys tells them to.

Orthodox Jews spend their entire lives focusing on following a bunch of pointless, bullshit rules that essentially destroys their lives. Non-orthodox Jews still have their shitty religion run their entire lives (see DBG).

Christians are mostly chill, normal people. Yeah, I guess we're gullible because sometimes we send $1k to charity that actually gets misused or whatever, but Muslim and Jewish charity scams are just as bad or worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34908656)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:37 PM
Author: filthy blathering pit

ive been an atheist since i was 7.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763498)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:40 PM
Author: Underhanded apoplectic address

Can I be atheist but just go to church once in a while and get my kids baptized and generally just go through the motions as long as it takes minimal effort?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763516)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:45 PM
Author: cordovan hairless stock car church building

(richard spencer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763540)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:43 PM
Author: deranged business firm mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763807)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: fluffy prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34908873)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:41 PM
Author: Impressive parlour doctorate

i'm an atheist but I go from time to time just to sing hymns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763522)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:44 PM
Author: abnormal 180 brunch

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763536)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:45 PM
Author: cordovan hairless stock car church building

i have a really flaming gay friend who does this, even sings in the church choir, but he's an avowed atheist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763542)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:41 PM
Author: laughsome whorehouse goal in life

My uber driver talked me into being a Mormon. I made an appointment with a Bishop for next week. I don't think they are Christian though.

I like the part about the Native Americans being fried in Hell though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763523)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:43 PM
Author: disturbing shitlib

Yeah but Protestantism is kind of gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763529)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:45 PM
Author: Underhanded apoplectic address

Russian orthodoxy is very straight. Priests are all married and tons of hot chicks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763543)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:47 PM
Author: laughsome whorehouse goal in life

There is nothing hot about Russians. Shut your fucking mouth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763550)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:54 PM
Author: federal startled quadroon

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/99/b8/7e99b8886acfa5182d96f0791af8026f.jpg

You lose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763591)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:00 PM
Author: Poppy useless gaming laptop

slavs are subhuman and age the worst of any race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763614)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:02 PM
Author: federal startled quadroon

Not remotely true. I know a bunch of hot Russian girls in their 30s and 40s. You're thinking of the old USSR where there were no gyms and everyone lived a horrible lifestyle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763621)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:12 PM
Author: Poppy useless gaming laptop

Russians are ugly people. they prize beauty to a retarded degree because they are largely ugly, run down, and they live in ugly, run down places.

a typical Russian 'babe' looks something like this

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/usa-trump_russia-leaks.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

your brainless dedication to a nation you don't belong to is hilarious. you don't fit in here so you obsess over the idea that Russia is not a degenerate shitshow that horrifies most people. you have a genetic craving to fall in line like a good little slav.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763644)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:34 PM
Author: federal startled quadroon

Oh look, a quotemo talking shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763763)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:35 PM
Author: Nubile yellow deer antler

that's Reality Winner lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763772)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:28 PM
Author: Tantric Brethren

absolutely devastating.

nothing is more pathetic than elevating a foreign culture or people like some kind of sad tiny-dicked Benedict Arnold.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765368)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:46 PM
Author: laughsome whorehouse goal in life

You seem gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763547)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:48 PM
Author: federal startled quadroon

Compared to Russian Orthodoxy, it is all kind of gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763556)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:49 PM
Author: laughsome whorehouse goal in life

That's why you are one of the ugliest people on the planet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763562)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:51 PM
Author: federal startled quadroon

Catholicism - priests, little boys, enough said.

Typical lutherans/anglicans/whatever - full of shitlibs these days. Ergo, kinda gay.

Russian Orthodox - a bunch of conservaheros that get married to women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763572)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:13 PM
Author: laughsome whorehouse goal in life

Stop conflating Mandy with women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763648)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:34 PM
Author: federal startled quadroon

She's a GENETIC female!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763766)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:47 PM
Author: federal startled quadroon

I'll embrace it when I have kids because, well, kids. I've realized ultimately that religion is ultimately cultural and that for 99% of members of whatever faith they're all the same ("we believe in a God that loves us and did stuff for us and thinks we're better than everyone else because we're part of this religion. And after we die we go to the special happy place and our relatives are there too..."). But the cultural differences are the difference between western civ and the clusterfuck that the clusterfuck of the middle east.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763551)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:50 PM
Author: filthy blathering pit

u are 99 percent probability on the spectrum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763566)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:51 PM
Author: federal startled quadroon

Thanks captain obvious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763574)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 6:03 PM
Author: french provocative scourge upon the earth organic girlfriend

i thought you were a kike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763901)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 6:12 PM
Author: Avocado Stage Halford

You’re a middle aged Jew with a barren shrew for a wife. Kids? Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763934)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:03 PM
Author: Underhanded apoplectic address

We have 9 frozen embryos and I will have you know that every SINGLE one of them is AA 4-5 expansion. Our results were top notch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765586)



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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:06 AM
Author: Lascivious hyperactive mediation

what does AA 4-5 mean?

GF I was on marriage track with her I wanted her to freeze her eggs. Pls elaborate on everything egg freezing related

1. price

2. dyanamics with S/O

3. ratings? AA 4-5?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34766353)



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Date: November 26th, 2017 7:22 PM
Author: federal startled quadroon

These are frozen embryos, not eggs. Not sure it works the same. Costs are definitely different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34776920)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:44 PM
Author: deranged business firm mad-dog skullcap

Christianity is 180 but unfortunately JESUS can't keep this bad boy from GAKKING and SUCKING lol 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763811)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 6:10 PM
Author: fuchsia kink-friendly cruise ship

Pascal's Wager

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34763925)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:11 PM
Author: green histrionic field

What's the probability god is a trickster who sends the obedient and faithful to hell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765204)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:21 PM
Author: Snowy trailer park

Such a universe would collapse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765685)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:12 PM
Author: mustard cumskin

No man. The rewards in this life are much greater for a Christian. Even though this is a continent fact of our world. It could have been a different religion. But being Christian will get you places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765214)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:29 PM
Author: Tantric Brethren

Tell me more about the rewards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765375)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:03 PM
Author: mustard cumskin

A public forum to discuss free will, the nature of mind/soul and the relationships between people

Structured communities with a group of elders and peers including girls

...

Soda and refreshments?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765583)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:03 PM
Author: Elite Selfie

I like not being retarded but yeah the masses definitely need this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765584)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:05 PM
Author: mustard cumskin

Bro you must be getting tired of the dead end of secularism. They literally think your mind is identical to your brain. They refuse to speak of pain because it's "supernatural" and instead refer to "c-fiber stimulation". Secular philosophy is not good man, it's a Vulcan nightmare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765591)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:10 PM
Author: Elite Selfie

What do you expect me to do? Trick myself into believing? Won't happen man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765613)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: mustard cumskin

No tricks brother. The possibility that your mind is a non-physical substance is very real. If true this has monumental, one might say spiritual or religious, implications.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765630)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:16 PM
Author: Elite Selfie

oh wow never heard this before

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765664)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: mustard cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765667)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:22 PM
Author: Tantric Brethren

"I'm a genius, I know god is fake!"

*lives profoundly substandard life*

"See what I mean!?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765689)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:45 PM
Author: Elite Selfie

lol at this being an argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765865)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:11 PM
Author: Opaque philosopher-king

There are better religions out there. Buddhism is straight up superior to all Abrahamic ones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765619)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:15 PM
Author: mustard cumskin

While it shares some cr insights it is not without flaws. It is more focused on denial in this life than Abrahamic traditions, for example

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765656)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: Seedy Generalized Bond Macaca

Well compared to many of the other leading brands these days, could a cr statement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765631)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:15 PM
Author: Tantric Brethren

How do you guys actually go about finding a church?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765652)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:23 PM
Author: Snowy trailer park

Find your parish boundaries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765693)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:26 PM
Author: Cracking Property New Version

lmao so far ITT all the naysaying poasters are literally well-known insane ppl. did the OP just get lucky... or.... ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765715)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:27 PM
Author: Snowy trailer park

Providence, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765730)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:32 PM
Author: mustard cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34765768)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 12:07 PM
Author: Cracking Property New Version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34908636)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 12:08 PM
Author: disturbing shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807807&forum_id=2#34908644)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 12:12 PM
Author: Crystalline twisted wrinkle



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