More about Christianity's metaphysics is wrong than right. But the cost of being
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:31 PM Author: Ocher Locale
Dunno much about this. My guess is the ontology is receptive to a number of interpretations but sounds like there is a mainstream way of thinking about this. Your way sounds less fucky.
In Hinduism there's a debate about whether atman (individual human selves) is brahman (basically the totality of all mental stuff). Some say atman is brahman, some say it's a part/whole relationship etc.
Is Christianity in total agreement on this consubstantiation thing? My impression was that Christians are ontological dualists about god and the physical world. So maybe consubstantiation just means father/son/ghost are "god stuff" and not physical stuff, rather than some second-order/within-substance ontological relationship.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807902&forum_id=2#34765394) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:41 PM Author: Ocher Locale
"There are spiritual creatures that are not physical."
This seems to be the most important part. Christianity includes the belief that non-physical souls exist or are possible.
It seems to be the creator/created dualism tracks mind (spirit)/body dualism, at least in that upon death the created's soul leaves the world of bodies to be in the world of spirit/creator.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807902&forum_id=2#34765456) |
Date: November 24th, 2017 10:31 PM Author: histrionic puce stead
Hate this "Judeo-Christian" stuff (which is just intended to draw Jews to the right). It should really be "Greco-Christian".
The biggest flaws that come to mind are:
1) The Messiah comes from a slave mindset where you need to be saved. This sets up an unhealthy dependency.
2) Turning the other cheek goes too far. It's unworkable as a model for a society because bad actors can too easily abuse it. It may work, however, as a prophylactic against monotheistic triumphalism such as you see in Islam.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807902&forum_id=2#34765393)
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