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****OFFICIAL BLOODACRE Q&A THREAD****

bloodacre, have you ever eaten a loaf of French bread on the...
Lyle
  12/06/17
I haven't but sometimes I'll get a candy bar and hide the wr...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
What happens when you get in trouble?
I do fine with the ladies
  12/06/17
my wife berates me for being fat.
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
If she can't accept you at your worst, she doesn't deserve y...
I do fine with the ladies
  12/06/17
No she's right. I'm unhealthy and will leave her a widow no...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
You'll be Skored stiff lol!
I do fine with the ladies
  12/06/17
favorite candy bar?
paul rudd
  12/06/17
Hard to pick 1. My go tos in no particular order (please di...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
gun to ur head: heath bar or skor?
paul rudd
  12/06/17
Skor but it's mostly nostalgia.
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
What's your fav, fratty?
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
I respect the hell out of those choices.
self-satisfied and socially compliant
  12/06/17
favorite bass solo?
business
  12/06/17
I was tempted to go with some funky/jazzy/fusiony thing but ...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
180. favorite hardcore band? and were you ever sxe
business
  12/06/17
From NJ, the Degenerics. Regionally they were hugely popula...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
ty will listen
business
  12/06/17
If you are interested, here is the full album. https://w...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
yes ty. blasting it in my bigloffice now
business
  12/06/17
180!
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
secretary just walked in. lol
business
  12/06/17
I am 100% going to do this tomorrow.
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
do it. i've been caught listening to music so many times no ...
business
  12/06/17
are you the fat guitarist from Bowling for Soup?
CHRISTVS SANCTVS DEVS VVLT
  12/06/17
ALso what's the CR sandwich
CHRISTVS SANCTVS DEVS VVLT
  12/06/17
The best sandwich in the world is the pastrami on rye from K...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
Rate Katz vs Langers
CHRISTVS SANCTVS DEVS VVLT
  12/06/17
I've never been to Langer's though I've heard it gives Katz'...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
Thick juicy cut pastrami thats all i can say. Good liver n ...
CHRISTVS SANCTVS DEVS VVLT
  12/06/17
preferred go-to horseradish mustard brand/style?
Dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame
  12/06/17
I like the spicy polish or russian mustards that come in a t...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
Thoughts on les claypool? John myung of dream theater?
shiv chasing w holdup on christmas morning
  12/06/17
Les Claypool is a talented, creative and unique dude. I don...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
what soccer position did you play?
business
  12/06/17
Depending on personnel stopper(yes I am aware that this is a...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
...
business
  12/06/17
I did not and regret it. I played on my town's club team wi...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
...
business
  12/06/17
I played in a coed 7 v 7 outdoor league and actually just go...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
do the 11 v 11. is it full 90? 180
business
  12/06/17
That's awesome. Yeah I like playing with euros and latinos....
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
you should get out and play more man. soccer is 180.
business
  12/06/17
Are you an east coastmo?
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
is your wife attractive
the gorgon
  12/06/17
She aight
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
what if a better man decides to sleep with her
the gorgon
  12/06/17
i think she would stay married to me so NBD.
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
Is there any sexual activity you'd like to engage in that yo...
John Ruskin, a buche de noel with buttercream
  12/06/17
Yeah all the time.
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
how did you find dudes to form a band with
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  12/06/17
It was an evolution. In 2013 i responded to a craigslist...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
are there any unofficial Bloodacre Q&A threads?
I'm a chad btw
  12/06/17
yeah there are some
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
I would feel more comfortable poasting in one of those. Than...
I'm a chad btw
  12/06/17
take care
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
...
self-satisfied and socially compliant
  12/06/17
if you are fat and repulsive (by your own words above) how d...
fc inter
  12/06/17
i have a charming personality
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
fine. i like you so i will let this BS pass
fc inter
  12/06/17
Are you ever concerned about your poop?
self-satisfied and socially compliant
  12/06/17
yeah once in a while
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
Why?
Lyle
  12/07/17
looks/smells weird.
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/07/17
who wins the fight saturday
buffalo chill
  12/06/17
heart and brain both say loma. i think i might be rooting fo...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/06/17
What is your pants waist/inseam measurement.
John Ruskin, a buche de noel with buttercream
  12/07/17
right now, 38 W 32 L. Would really love to get back down...
bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/07/17
What is your current BMI?
da na na na na Inspector Faggot
  12/07/17
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bloodacre roasting on an open fire
  12/07/17


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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:39 AM
Author: Lyle

bloodacre, have you ever eaten a loaf of French bread on the way home from the grocery store?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852631)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:42 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

I haven't but sometimes I'll get a candy bar and hide the wrapper so I don't get in trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852645)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:43 AM
Author: I do fine with the ladies

What happens when you get in trouble?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852660)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

my wife berates me for being fat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852667)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:46 AM
Author: I do fine with the ladies

If she can't accept you at your worst, she doesn't deserve you at your best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852687)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

No she's right. I'm unhealthy and will leave her a widow not to mention the fact that I am repulsive to look at.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852829)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:05 PM
Author: I do fine with the ladies

You'll be Skored stiff lol!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852885)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: paul rudd

favorite candy bar?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852637)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

Hard to pick 1. My go tos in no particular order (please disregard the numbering):

1) heath bar/skor

2) almond joy

3) butterfinger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852665)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: paul rudd

gun to ur head: heath bar or skor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852672)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:48 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

Skor but it's mostly nostalgia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852705)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

What's your fav, fratty?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852856)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:26 PM
Author: self-satisfied and socially compliant

I respect the hell out of those choices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853052)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: business

favorite bass solo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852639)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:46 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

I was tempted to go with some funky/jazzy/fusiony thing but fuck that. Rancid - Maxwell Murder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE1zgrMdxBE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852685)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:46 AM
Author: business

180. favorite hardcore band? and were you ever sxe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852692)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:52 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

From NJ, the Degenerics. Regionally they were hugely popular but never achieved more widespread fame. Unique, talented and tight as fuck. Released 1 full length album which doesn't have a single wasted second on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk3lu0AOnRg



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852752)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:54 AM
Author: business

ty will listen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852765)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:55 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

If you are interested, here is the full album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7HH4Y4IdLM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852786)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:56 AM
Author: business

yes ty. blasting it in my bigloffice now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852803)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:02 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

180!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852858)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:04 PM
Author: business

secretary just walked in. lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852879)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

I am 100% going to do this tomorrow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852889)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:08 PM
Author: business

do it. i've been caught listening to music so many times no one bats an eye

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852906)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:43 AM
Author: CHRISTVS SANCTVS DEVS VVLT (LaMarcus)

are you the fat guitarist from Bowling for Soup?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852655)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:45 AM
Author: CHRISTVS SANCTVS DEVS VVLT (LaMarcus)

ALso what's the CR sandwich

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852675)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:53 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

The best sandwich in the world is the pastrami on rye from Katz's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852758)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:56 AM
Author: CHRISTVS SANCTVS DEVS VVLT (LaMarcus)

Rate Katz vs Langers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852800)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

I've never been to Langer's though I've heard it gives Katz's a run for its money. Can you describe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852817)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:14 PM
Author: CHRISTVS SANCTVS DEVS VVLT (LaMarcus)

Thick juicy cut pastrami thats all i can say. Good liver n tongue too but its a bit pricey especially considering its next to the ghetto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852954)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:51 AM
Author: Dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame

preferred go-to horseradish mustard brand/style?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852740)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:53 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

I like the spicy polish or russian mustards that come in a thin glass jar and are sold in eastern european delis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852762)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 11:53 AM
Author: shiv chasing w holdup on christmas morning

Thoughts on les claypool? John myung of dream theater?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852761)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

Les Claypool is a talented, creative and unique dude. I don't really care much for Primus or his bass playing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852850)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:00 PM
Author: business

what soccer position did you play?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852834)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:03 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

Depending on personnel stopper(yes I am aware that this is a dated term)/defensive center mid/center mid.

Did you play?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852869)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:04 PM
Author: business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852873)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:05 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

I did not and regret it. I played on my town's club team with the same kids from age 9 on.

Did you? what position?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852887)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852899)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:08 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

I played in a coed 7 v 7 outdoor league and actually just got a text today about playing 11 v 11 on saturday though I think I might die if I do that.

I also play indoor on Sunday nights with a group of Ukrainian guys.

Were you a goal scoring machine? Did you do ODP?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852907)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: business

do the 11 v 11. is it full 90? 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852921)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:16 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

That's awesome. Yeah I like playing with euros and latinos. There is a pretty big latin population near me and there are constantly good pick up games to get into during the summer.

did you play in college?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852973)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:18 PM
Author: business

you should get out and play more man. soccer is 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852989)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

Are you an east coastmo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853003)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:04 PM
Author: the gorgon

is your wife attractive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852877)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

She aight

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852897)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 1:09 PM
Author: the gorgon

what if a better man decides to sleep with her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853360)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 1:12 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

i think she would stay married to me so NBD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853381)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:17 PM
Author: John Ruskin, a buche de noel with buttercream (autoadmit@outlook.com)

Is there any sexual activity you'd like to engage in that your wife refuses to do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852987)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

Yeah all the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852992)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed

how did you find dudes to form a band with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852995)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:44 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

It was an evolution.

In 2013 i responded to a craigslist ad looking for a bass player. I went to a rehearsal, and though I was skeptical I stuck it out for a while.

There were issues with this version of the band. One member had a really off putting personality coupled with strong and equally off putting musical opinions. The drummer though a nice guy was just really fucking bad.

Eventually I left. They replaced me with a much better bass player but ultimately disbanded.

I stayed in touch with the guitarist who has become a good friend. He asked if I would be interested in starting a new band. So I asked my drummer friend (who is far and away the best musician in the band) if he was interested, which he was, then we brought back our old singer and reformed in the winter of 2015.

We then added a 2nd guitarist who is the drummer's friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853165)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: I'm a chad btw

are there any unofficial Bloodacre Q&A threads?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34852996)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:45 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

yeah there are some

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853168)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 1:08 PM
Author: I'm a chad btw

I would feel more comfortable poasting in one of those. Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853350)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 1:11 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

take care

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853374)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 1:14 PM
Author: self-satisfied and socially compliant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853400)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:46 PM
Author: fc inter

if you are fat and repulsive (by your own words above) how did you cop a wife? asian? organic gf from HS/College? or is she fat too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853175)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

i have a charming personality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853183)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 1:10 PM
Author: fc inter

fine. i like you so i will let this BS pass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34853364)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 9:46 PM
Author: self-satisfied and socially compliant

Are you ever concerned about your poop?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34857296)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 10:46 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

yeah once in a while

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34857721)



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Date: December 7th, 2017 7:27 AM
Author: Lyle

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34859466)



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Date: December 7th, 2017 11:56 AM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

looks/smells weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34860624)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 9:48 PM
Author: buffalo chill

who wins the fight saturday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34857310)



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Date: December 6th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

heart and brain both say loma. i think i might be rooting for rigo though. loma has a full brilliant career lying ahead of him. it would be incredible for rigo to cap off his career with this kind of win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3819766&forum_id=2#34857737)



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Date: December 7th, 2017 12:50 PM
Author: John Ruskin, a buche de noel with buttercream (autoadmit@outlook.com)

What is your pants waist/inseam measurement.



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Date: December 7th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

right now, 38 W 32 L.

Would really love to get back down to a 34.

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Date: December 7th, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: da na na na na Inspector Faggot

What is your current BMI?

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Date: December 7th, 2017 2:16 PM
Author: bloodacre roasting on an open fire (bloodacre@aol.com)

31

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