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Turning down In-House Promotion

Not sure if any other in-house bros have done it, but I'm go...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
LJL. Fag. Make the job less stressful. Don't just quit, ...
Passionate Silver Travel Guidebook
  12/13/17
why not just delegate everything
amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike
  12/13/17
Can't. Got a big gap. Me with 8+ yrs experience and I manage...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
You can add GDPR to that list, not that the US is any better...
costumed theater
  12/13/17
Hopefully, he has a group that will handle the numerous GDPR...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
(definitely not a compliance officer)
amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike
  12/13/17
If you think advising on shit like GDPR is "compliance&...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
lol, you are so pathetic
Thriller Sapphire Indian Lodge
  12/13/17
Holy fuck this sounds boring
bateful water buffalo
  12/13/17
As opposed to what, exactly?
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
Yea, we're wrapping up MiFID 2 right now, but starting GDPR....
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
You're just starting on GDPR? That's really not good.
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
Our particular in-house department started like 2 months ago...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
Not all that surprising to farm it out. Hopefully, your gro...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
Personal data, limited amount. Data transfers, yes, but we i...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
Might be able to perform services for the Euro entities with...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
if youre the type that says you dont have the time to train ...
amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike
  12/13/17
...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
Honestly, this.
abusive nofapping heaven windowlicker
  12/13/17
That's fair. Ideally, it would be 3 of me and 1 junior. We c...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
turn it down. life's too short and you'd be doing them (and...
amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike
  12/13/17
Fuck, I'm getting transferred from my super-chill group to a...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
Don't know, man. You think it's worth it. I can't imagine go...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
LOL, no one even asked me.
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
So, you just got handed over like some wench? lol. Is it the...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
Exactly. I'm just saying, lawyers and whores have a lot in ...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
why not get mo money
red stage
  12/13/17
That is the mo money. lol. They initially offered like $20k ...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
eu law really is awful, i hate it
red stage
  12/13/17
I'm not comfortable with it. I gave bad advice the other day...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
why not switch to a US focused role
red stage
  12/13/17
My boss' boss recommended me for this position. He thought I...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
forgot to address the needful
Ocher Vibrant Knife Police Squad
  12/13/17
Nah, it isn't bad at all, just very different. I'm doing mo...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
Just touched down to Chicago a few hours ago. Been MIA for t...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
how much do u make also why not get plane wifi, makes wo...
red stage
  12/13/17
I just wanted some peace and quiet. There is something comfo...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
holy fuck do not give that up.
amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike
  12/13/17
I'm about to lose that. Feels bad, man. :( Seriously, I ...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
Date: June 30th, 2009 9:41 PM Author: ..,.,...;;.,.,,.,:,.:...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
To be fair, NONE of this is that bad. I've worked for a mor...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
Lol
provocative haunting menage main people
  12/13/17
oh yeah you should make a lot more than 1st year associate b...
red stage
  12/13/17
To be fair, we don't know where OP is. Agree for a major ci...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
dude $180k to sit in your boxers with youporn open all day? ...
amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike
  12/13/17
This. So the options are: Current gig: Approx 180k, 100% ...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
Honestly, the only reason to take new gig is if you want to ...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
Yea. I have no interest in that. I honestly thought about qu...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
Dude if you’re in shitcago, you have quite a few options wrt...
costumed theater
  12/13/17
Yea, I almost joined an IA with 20bb AUM. But, it was a shit...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
low 2s is balling in chicago
red stage
  12/13/17
Yes I’d absolutely put in interim legal head even if for a m...
costumed theater
  12/14/17
why not do $300k+/year chill 9-5?
red stage
  12/13/17
I mean, that is everyone's goal, right? But realistically, ...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/13/17
I have a nice lifestyle, or I did before this promotion. I u...
Cracking dragon
  12/13/17
No offense, but you sound like a balding loser with no socia...
mind-boggling ruby pit therapy
  12/14/17
Maybe OP likes Chicago? Personally, sure, if I were in his ...
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/14/17
I'm already married to a CGWBT E. Euro chick. If I were sing...
Cracking dragon
  12/14/17
Oh then screw that. You're right.
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/14/17
Cr NEVER give up WFH
big rusted parlour
  12/14/17
:(
charcoal hell queen of the night
  12/14/17
Everyone at my megacorp inhouse who has done this in the pas...
zombie-like glassy toilet seat
  12/14/17


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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:10 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

Not sure if any other in-house bros have done it, but I'm going to turn down a promotion. I'm the interim regional legal head for a particular business/product. I was given a formal offer to become the permanent head yesterday, and I'm fucking declining. Fuck that shit. Haven't hit the gym in over 2 weeks, developed some fucking eyelid twitch and am constantly barraged with over 100 emails a day. I wake up at 7 am to like 20 emails. All this for an additional $40k is bullshit. lol. Not to mention, I'm managing like 4 people and will work next to a unstable shrew. Finally slept like a king on my flight back home in large part because I made the decision to decline.

I'm sure this will fuck me over for other promotions. But, if that's what they entail, fuck it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911321)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 8:46 PM
Author: Passionate Silver Travel Guidebook

LJL. Fag.

Make the job less stressful. Don't just quit, .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912957)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:11 PM
Author: amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike

why not just delegate everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911331)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:12 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

Can't. Got a big gap. Me with 8+ yrs experience and I manage 2 first-years, 1 paralegal, and 1 admin. Oh yea, outside counsel budget is cut too. lolol. This is Europe so, I have to learn MIFID, EMIR, and all that other shit with limited outside budget.

Juniors are too green. The company needs like 3 of me. I don't have time or luxury to train the juniors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911338)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:18 PM
Author: costumed theater

You can add GDPR to that list, not that the US is any better regulation wise.

Wise to turn down the promotion but it will fuck you over so time to start looking for a job where becoming the head lawyer is more than a $40k raise and/or larger outside counsel budget.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911378)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:26 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

Hopefully, he has a group that will handle the numerous GDPR compliance issues (or at least the overwhelming majority of them), along with e-Privacy Regulation. That isn't something he is just going to learn, particularly by 5/25/2018 (the implementation date) and the fines are potentially astronomical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911452)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:27 PM
Author: amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike

(definitely not a compliance officer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911461)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:33 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

If you think advising on shit like GDPR is "compliance" work then all in-house counsels do one form of compliance work or another. It is all advising on laws, negotiating agreements, reviewing new products and providing your input, providing training on your area, drafting policies, advising execs on their plans and projects, managing outside counsel, etc. If that isn't "real lawyer work" then I'm curious what you think real lawyers do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911509)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 8:25 PM
Author: Thriller Sapphire Indian Lodge

lol, you are so pathetic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912781)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: bateful water buffalo

Holy fuck this sounds boring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912107)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:51 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

As opposed to what, exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912117)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:34 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

Yea, we're wrapping up MiFID 2 right now, but starting GDPR. We did get outside counsel budget for it. But, it's a company wide endeavour so my business unit only gets a fraction of the firm's time.

I was thinking I could do this for a year or two and then jump to a bigger job. But, the reality, is the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911512)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:35 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

You're just starting on GDPR? That's really not good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911521)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:37 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

Our particular in-house department started like 2 months ago, I believe. Maybe the tech dudes started earlier. But, we're apparently farming it out to an outside law firm. *crossing fingers*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911538)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:39 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

Not all that surprising to farm it out. Hopefully, your group doesn't do a ton of EU data transfers or collection of EU personal data. Anyway, not your problem now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911559)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:41 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

Personal data, limited amount. Data transfers, yes, but we isolate it to the EEA for this business. Although, we're concerned about it snagging our NAM business that sometimes performs services for our Euro entities.

Yea, I'll have a talk to the Euro manager tomorrow. My NAM manager will be happy. He doesn't want to break up the team, but encouraged me to explore the opportunity. Apparently, I was recommended by my boss' boss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911571)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:46 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

Might be able to perform services for the Euro entities without needing to transfer personal data (non-anonymized), depending on what you're doing.

Anyway, sounds like this is the right choice for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911609)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:20 PM
Author: amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike

if youre the type that says you dont have the time to train juniors then you shouldn't be managing them and accordingly turning down the promotion is the right move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911385)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:26 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911454)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:28 PM
Author: abusive nofapping heaven windowlicker

Honestly, this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911472)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:35 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

That's fair. Ideally, it would be 3 of me and 1 junior. We could split time training the junior. Right now, I'm on conference calls all fucking day and getting IMed to call X or Y before EoD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911524)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:38 PM
Author: amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike

turn it down. life's too short and you'd be doing them (and yourself) a disfavor. striving only leads to emptiness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911548)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:46 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

Fuck, I'm getting transferred from my super-chill group to a gunnerish group because of the increased potential for a promotion...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911615)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:02 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

Don't know, man. You think it's worth it. I can't imagine going to a super gunner crew. I'm pretty laid back and that'd annoy me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911777)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:04 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

LOL, no one even asked me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911791)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:18 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

So, you just got handed over like some wench? lol. Is it the same field at least?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911882)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:22 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

Exactly. I'm just saying, lawyers and whores have a lot in common. At firms you even bill by the hour...

My old group had some residual portion of my area, so I got moved to it. Then they moved that to the super-gunner group along with other stuff I do and they moved me with it. But in my old group I was the only person that did what I do. So my bosses would ask me super general qs about it and otherwise would leave me alone. Insanely chill while still getting to do really good work (I could turn down work I didn't want, could pursue work I did, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911906)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:38 PM
Author: red stage

why not get mo money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911550)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:40 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

That is the mo money. lol. They initially offered like $20k and a title bump. I didn't respond. So they countered with $40k plus housing expenses (like $500 a month). Wouldn't take it for any amount. I'm breaking out and constantly eating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911567)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:41 PM
Author: red stage

eu law really is awful, i hate it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911575)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:43 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

I'm not comfortable with it. I gave bad advice the other day. Oh yea, "We got our interest perfected through possession. We good hoss." (2 hours after reading some materials about liens in UK) "Oh yea, my bad. We need to file something. Will revert."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911587)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:44 PM
Author: red stage

why not switch to a US focused role

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911595)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:47 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

My boss' boss recommended me for this position. He thought I would be a good fit. Lol. How wrong was that fucker in thinking I could handle this?

I'll have the NAM equivalent, but need to wait for my boss to retire. Probably in the next 5 years or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911620)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Ocher Vibrant Knife Police Squad

forgot to address the needful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912189)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:49 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

Nah, it isn't bad at all, just very different. I'm doing more and more of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911637)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:46 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

Just touched down to Chicago a few hours ago. Been MIA for the past 7+ hours.

Let's see . . . I got 93 emails since I left Europe at 9 am. *crawls into oncoming traffic*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911607)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 5:48 PM
Author: red stage

how much do u make

also why not get plane wifi, makes working travel days more sane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911629)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:02 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

I just wanted some peace and quiet. There is something comforting about being inaccessible.

I average $180k all in, but currently have 100% wfh privileges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911773)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:03 PM
Author: amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike

holy fuck do not give that up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911788)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

I'm about to lose that. Feels bad, man. :(

Seriously, I don't blame anyone for saying "I have enough and enjoy not hating my life."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911805)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:21 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

Date: June 30th, 2009 9:41 PM

Author: ..,.,...;;.,.,,.,:,.:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:.,..,.

Subject: Congratulations!

Based on your reaction to getting the offer, this is probably the best thing that could have ever happened to you. I encourage you to enjoy the summer and take accept their offer as nothing in the world will cure you of your prestige obsession quicker than some time at S&C.

During orientation, they'll give you an S&C shoulderbag and you'll wear it with the S&C logo facing outward so any other commuters in the know can see it and you'll just know that they're either impressed or envious. And that will make you happy and proud. And then you'll try to figure out the best way to ensure that you're sworn in as soon as possible after receiving your bar results because then you'll get the box full of business cards that say "Sullivan & Cromwell LLP" with your actual name underneath. You'll be giddy at the thought of casually passing one (mid-conversation) to some acquaintance from undergrad you've lost touch with.

You'll start working and you'll notice that there are an awful lot of "Farewell" emails and someone will tell you that the farewell emails can only contain 4 names at a time per firm policy because the partners decided sometime in 2004 that emails indicating 6 or 7 people were leaving the firm in a two week period might cause some unhelpful whispering. You'll talk to a midlevel associate who is super-psyched to work at S&C and you'll find out that he (not a lot of shes) lateralled from some firm that frankly you would never have considered working for (too TTT for you). When you get back to your office, this will trouble you a bit, you'll wonder if your own escutcheon is being blemished by the presence of this type of person (i.e., non-elite) at your S&C. But that feeling will pass as you'll find plenty of other like-minded first years who equally relish the prestige as you you head for a drink at Ulysses (shoulderbag logo facing outward).

Then you'll get staffed on your first big deal and you'll work late night after late night and then on the weekend and on to the next weekend and then on to the weekend when you had planned to go to a friend's wedding. And you won't go because the work has to get done and you have dues to pay (or so you'll be told). You'll get a little bit upset about this turn of events, but the arrival of those business cards will soften the blow.

You'll meet more and more laterals from firms that you would never work for (some you've never even heard of). You'll note in the farewell emails that some of the junior and midlevel associates leaving S&C are going to those very same firms. Survival of the fittest you'll say. But late at night, when the air conditioning clicks down from a barely perceptible hissing sound to complete silence, these things will bother you. But you'll tell yourself you're just tired and frustrated and anyway you have work to do.

You'll have lunch with Rodge and he'll tell you that business is good and that he's listening to associates' concerns about quality of life issues. You'll notice that some of the senior associates visibly roll their eyes at each other when this comes up, but you won't mind that much because, really, what other firm's managing partner regulalry has lunch with associates to hear their concerns (and takes notes!)

A few months will pass, a few marathon deals will happen, you'll have to re-schedule a vacation but you'll tell yourself that that is to be expected.

About a year in, a couple of your classmates will crack and start talking about how much the job sucks. They'll very likely have gone to Yale Law School. You'll joke that they couldn't hack it when they leave the firm for a clerkship, or an academic position or to go to a firm in another city.

Things will go on in this pattern and you'll notice the fact that you're working a lot harder than your friends who went to "peer" firms. At first you'll be proud of this and brag about it, but after a while you'll find yourself downplaying it. At least when you have the time to get out and socialize with your law school friends.

Something will happen: a partner will scream at you, a senior associate gunning for partner will blame you for her mistake, the partner will tell you that the trip to Europe your spouse meticulously planned just won't be able to happen (he'll be really sorry and will tell you a funny story about the exotic vacation he missed or cut short). Doesn't matter what, but you'll get really pissed and you'll start to take some of the 4 or 5 calls from headhunters that you'll receive every day at that point (vultures spell blood). They'll give you the names of firms that you laughed on in the days when you posted on the XOXO board, but you'll find yourself looking into them. The headhunter will encourage to just listen to their offer and you'll consider doing so. But you won't leave because then you'd have to give up your business cards. And stop wearing the shoulder bag. And the bonus is only x months away so you'll start thinking about it then.

Until one day you won't be able to take it any more and you'll find yourself arranging to meet with people from a lightly regarded firm for a position in their New York office. And you'll worry that the XOXO crowd will see you.

And you don't believe any of this will happen, but I suggest you print this out and keep it in the top desk of your drawer so late at night when you're feeling sorry for yourself, you can add to the list of reasons to be miserable this fact: someone told you this was going to happen and you thought that person was crazy.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911901)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

To be fair, NONE of this is that bad. I've worked for a more intense group before and have never pulled an all-nighter, for example.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34911917)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 8:11 PM
Author: provocative haunting menage main people

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912654)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:36 PM
Author: red stage

oh yeah you should make a lot more than 1st year associate base salary for that level of stress, even with the WFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912026)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:37 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

To be fair, we don't know where OP is. Agree for a major city but disagree if in a low COL area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912035)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:39 PM
Author: amethyst geriatric antidepressant drug preventive strike

dude $180k to sit in your boxers with youporn open all day? and if it's truly 100% wfh, then he shouldn't be tied to some coastal metro hellhole anyway

edit: i think he's saying the current chill job is 100% wfh which he'd be giving up for stress + additional $40k pretax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912043)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:52 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

This. So the options are:

Current gig: Approx 180k, 100% wfh, but fly to home office maybe a few days every month and a half. I work from Chicago, so my rent is like $2,200 for a modest 2bd/2ba in the loop.

New gig: Approx $220k, 1 day wfh, work at a trading desk, and relocate to Europe. My rent would be about $2,500 in a 1bd/1ba apartment in a so-so area outside of the city center.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912119)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 6:54 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

Honestly, the only reason to take new gig is if you want to then jump ship to a $300k+/year gig but that will still have crap QOL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912126)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

Yea. I have no interest in that. I honestly thought about quitting law during this ongoing stint as regional head.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912190)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 7:16 PM
Author: costumed theater

Dude if you’re in shitcago, you have quite a few options wrt family offices and other small investment firms where you do not need to be dealing with regional heads and bosses of bosses. You should see what other options are out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912249)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 8:38 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

Yea, I almost joined an IA with 20bb AUM. But, it was a shitty commute. I also had no WFH and had to wear a suit. Pay was like $220, but it was $160k base and $60k bonus.

I've looked at a few other shops around here, but they tend to be in the low $200s. I'll find out tomorrow though if I need to start sending out resumes after I talk to my boss and the Euro chief.

By the way, you think I can put "Interim XX EMEA Legal Head" even if it's only a month that I held the position. I just have my NAM title at the moment. I have a feeling that I'll be holding this position until they find a replacement. :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912885)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 8:46 PM
Author: red stage

low 2s is balling in chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912953)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 2:05 AM
Author: costumed theater

Yes I’d absolutely put in interim legal head even if for a month. If you do move to a new job, HR will only confirm dates of employment only, not your title. Also you are not lying and you are doing exactly that.

As for other jobs, shitty commute is a dealbreaker but WFH can’t be expected at all. My firm was around $15-20b when I joined. Super manageable in terms of legal work. Base was $155k. My base is only $185k now. Don’t be discouraged by the low base. Most firms have a cap on base and will only pay in bonus and/or equity beyond that. I’ve heard of very successful firms have salary caps of $150k. Don’t judge a firm by the base.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34915109)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 8:10 PM
Author: red stage

why not do $300k+/year chill 9-5?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912645)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 8:11 PM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

I mean, that is everyone's goal, right? But realistically, few get there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912658)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 8:40 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

I have a nice lifestyle, or I did before this promotion. I used to fap to August Ames and chicks tripping on meth like 3x a day. Now, I fap in the bathroom to chicks on Eros guide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34912910)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 9:58 AM
Author: mind-boggling ruby pit therapy

No offense, but you sound like a balding loser with no social life who lives in a notoriously difficult city for said balding losers to crush puss because of the influx of B10 meatheads. And yet you turned down an offer to make more money, move across the world and literally press the reset button on life? You realize that in Europe you get to take a 2 hour lunch every day? You could use that time to hit the gym and turn yourself into an expat stud and in 6 months you'd have a cute little Euro gf who wants to raise your American babies. Bonus points if the position is not in the UK because the women there are fug.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but rarely are social cretins like you given a chance to start over. You got it and you pissed all over it. Shame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34916765)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 10:32 AM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

Maybe OP likes Chicago? Personally, sure, if I were in his shoes I'd jump at the chance to be an expat, make more money, fuck pretty E. Euro girls, etc. But then again, as XO likes to note, I have no soul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34917038)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: Cracking dragon

I'm already married to a CGWBT E. Euro chick. If I were single, I'd likely take it. But, the money isn't much more considering the CoL and taxes. Also, with the amount of work, there is no gym time. When in NAM, I get the chance to workout 3 to 4 times a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34917362)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

Oh then screw that. You're right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34917445)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: big rusted parlour

Cr NEVER give up WFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34917053)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 10:41 AM
Author: charcoal hell queen of the night

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34917070)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 11:25 AM
Author: zombie-like glassy toilet seat

Everyone at my megacorp inhouse who has done this in the past has been managed out. It’s the commonly known ONE | WRONG | MOVE in our department. It sucks because when they come to ask you they act like it’s a choice, but in reality it’s a trap and even if you like your current gig and have a path to advance they can just take it from you. When the underlings get together we all talk about how people who get forced to switch all need to leave asap to scare the execs off of doing this. It’s all because they are just too lazy to hire externally and prefer to have a game of musical chairs every time there is an opening so they can use the process to pressure the teams they want to shrink to make do with less heads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827898&forum_id=2#34917459)