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where would a simulation tell be buried irl?
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:00 PM Author: Titillating location Deep within prime numbers? Golden ratio? Some aspect of chaos theory? (same patterns repeating in micro, so as to save computing power)? In turbulent or three body systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050007) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 4:00 PM Author: Titillating location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35710757) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM Author: emerald rough-skinned rigpig field Pi? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103431) |
Date: December 31st, 2017 2:01 PM Author: Multi-colored up-to-no-good round eye Where do you see tells in world of Warcraft? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050012) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:02 PM Author: Titillating location Never played it brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050017) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:01 PM Author: Titillating location In QM? Quantum tunnelling seems to be a precondition to stars igniting... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050014) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:03 PM Author: Titillating location Somewhere in math? Where? Deep in pi, like that Carl sagan novel? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050022) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:04 PM Author: Titillating location Did a stone photographed on the surface of Mars really exist before we saw it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050029) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:05 PM Author: Titillating location In music? Nah. Deep in some sort of system like vibrating of guitar string? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050035) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:06 PM Author: Titillating location Swirls of pipe smoke? Swirl of pipewood burl? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050044) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:06 PM Author: Titillating location Water, the movement of water, its changing density and the change of the quality of light reflected off backyard ditch water in the winter versus the summer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050050) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: Titillating location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445549) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: poppy flatulent goal in life it's much easier to imagine it being built into the simulated laws of physics somehow instead of math itself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445564) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: Titillating location Okay, given that math is substrate for reality I guess ... but what is an example of what you mean, brother? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445698) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: poppy flatulent goal in life if you find a message hidden in the digits of a fundamental physical constant, it's easy to imagine the simulators just choosing to set the parameter that way intentionally when they set up their simulation configuration
it's harder to see how they could build a message into math itself-- i'm not quite sure how you'd set up a simulation in which math worked differently, aside from hacky solutions like messing with the brains of whatever intelligent beings exist in your simulation whenever they try to do math. a pattern within math itself (like in the digits of pi in the book version of Contact) is the sort of thing that would raise real theological questions about the ultimate nature of the world and its intelligibility.
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Titillating location Okay I see. Goddamn good point.
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: Titillating location Yeah, that would be a sensible place to place a code. Yes, it would. one of those 4 or 5 physical "finely tuned" constants in nature. Fuck. Yep. That would be a place to look. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445891) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: Titillating location Cottam I gotta think about this. Is this a relatively new thing, or something that has been speculated about for some time? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445943) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:51 PM Author: poppy flatulent goal in life i mean you could build messages into other places also, it's just the most obvious and easy way to do it given that you are going to have to specify values for your fundamental constants anyway
there are also other ways you might detect if you're in a simulation, depending on what assumptions you make about how the simulation is done, e.g.:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1210.1847 |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: Titillating location Right.
Whenever we assume some other consciousness used the laziest approach to do something we are usually on track. |
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Date: April 28th, 2018 9:00 AM Author: Titillating location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35937109) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2023 11:21 AM Author: Titillating location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#46345000) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:26 PM Author: poppy flatulent goal in life also just fyi there are 26 fundamental constants in our current models:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/constants.html |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:30 PM Author: Titillating location tyty didn't know there were so many.
Seems like this is where a message would be--sort of pasted in the irreduceable seams (that could be set differently but aren't). |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: poppy flatulent goal in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445587) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Canary mad-dog skullcap messiness When u walk to the edge and can’t go any further due to invisible wall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445783) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: talented whorehouse inside the infinite regressions going on in calculus like that "half the distance to the wall" metaphor but the sim tell is like some 550 T digit numbers of times, halving the distance, that no sensible person would run down on a high powered computer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445821) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: soggy cobalt principal's office friendly grandma God-experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35446009) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: insecure disrespectful son of senegal surprised no-one has mentioned the double slit experiment. arguably proves that reality is subjective.
it's a wave! no, it's a particle! no, it depends whether you look! |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: poppy flatulent goal in life as with most interesting questions about trying to link physics and metaphysics, it depends on your interpretation of quantum mechanics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35446279) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: Titillating location I would have thought this was a slam dunk for proof that we live in a simulation inasmuch as it's like pixels destabilizing upon examination.
BUT 1) we need QM to do things like ignite stars, so QM is a necessary part of getting action in the universe, not just an accidental thing or programming defect. and 2) the dominant view now about double slit experiment isn't related to consciousness (which would imply a cool sort of video-game like simulation) but instead the multiverse model. I don't know what that does to simulation theory except put us in a very very insignificant spot. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:03 PM Author: Titillating location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35453718) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:52 PM Author: soggy cobalt principal's office friendly grandma amused that spaceporn, avowed atheist, is spending real time itt wondering about a "message" written into reality by reality's creator(s) and discoverable by pilgrim souls who search devoutly enough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35454135) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:53 PM Author: sooty glittery station this is why weed is bad for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35454145) |
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Date: March 5th, 2018 4:47 PM Author: bat shit crazy plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35540797) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:38 AM Author: hairless buff business firm athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103414) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:54 PM Author: fear-inspiring rehab fixed speed of light (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35454150) |
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Date: December 27th, 2023 8:20 AM Author: bearded odious orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#47217808) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2018 11:51 AM Author: Titillating location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35526467) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2018 11:53 AM Author: transparent well-lubricated abode sound barrier In my gargling bong water. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35526476) |
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Date: May 9th, 2018 9:52 PM Author: Titillating location fair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36019182) |
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Date: March 5th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Titillating location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35540629) |
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Date: March 5th, 2018 4:39 PM Author: bearded odious orchestra pit clearly XO.
the amount of times i will read/see something in passing, load xo, and then suddenly there's a thread mentioning that thing i just read/saw is absolutely scary. |
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Date: May 9th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: Titillating location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36019164) |
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Date: May 9th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: turquoise generalized bond one of your threads or in a huge bag of weed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36019165) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:33 AM Author: Titillating location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103376) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:35 AM Author: hairless buff business firm athletic conference President Donald J. Trump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103389) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:36 AM Author: marvelous lodge crotch There are 26 universal constants.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ethansiegel/2015/08/22/it-takes-26-fundamental-constants-to-give-us-our-universe-but-they-still-dont-give-everything/ |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:37 AM Author: marvelous lodge crotch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_constant#Universal_constants (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103401) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:38 AM Author: obsidian forum the cemetery you pass all the time that never actually contained any dead people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103407) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM Author: emerald rough-skinned rigpig field I am positive that Saturn is NOT a computer and there is nothing strange about the hexagon on its north pole and the eye on its southern pole, and our moon is definitely NOT a transmission node for the simulation. Hth! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103428) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2022 12:24 PM Author: Titillating location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#44009818) |
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Date: December 27th, 2023 8:11 AM Author: Internet-worthy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#47217766) |
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Date: December 27th, 2023 8:36 AM Author: electric magical shrine Peterman's shitpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#47217827) |