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where would a simulation tell be buried irl?
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:00 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Deep within prime numbers? Golden ratio? Some aspect of chaos theory? (same patterns repeating in micro, so as to save computing power)? In turbulent or three body systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050007) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 4:00 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35710757) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM Author: electric cream foreskin abode Pi? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103431) |
Date: December 31st, 2017 2:01 PM Author: primrose gaping school cafeteria Where do you see tells in world of Warcraft? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050012) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:02 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Never played it brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050017) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:01 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon In QM? Quantum tunnelling seems to be a precondition to stars igniting... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050014) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:03 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Somewhere in math? Where? Deep in pi, like that Carl sagan novel? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050022) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:04 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Did a stone photographed on the surface of Mars really exist before we saw it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050029) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:05 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon In music? Nah. Deep in some sort of system like vibrating of guitar string? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050035) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:06 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Swirls of pipe smoke? Swirl of pipewood burl? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050044) |
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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:06 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Water, the movement of water, its changing density and the change of the quality of light reflected off backyard ditch water in the winter versus the summer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35050050) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445549) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: Bateful Mother it's much easier to imagine it being built into the simulated laws of physics somehow instead of math itself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445564) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Okay, given that math is substrate for reality I guess ... but what is an example of what you mean, brother? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445698) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: Bateful Mother if you find a message hidden in the digits of a fundamental physical constant, it's easy to imagine the simulators just choosing to set the parameter that way intentionally when they set up their simulation configuration
it's harder to see how they could build a message into math itself-- i'm not quite sure how you'd set up a simulation in which math worked differently, aside from hacky solutions like messing with the brains of whatever intelligent beings exist in your simulation whenever they try to do math. a pattern within math itself (like in the digits of pi in the book version of Contact) is the sort of thing that would raise real theological questions about the ultimate nature of the world and its intelligibility.
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Okay I see. Goddamn good point.
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Yeah, that would be a sensible place to place a code. Yes, it would. one of those 4 or 5 physical "finely tuned" constants in nature. Fuck. Yep. That would be a place to look. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445891) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Cottam I gotta think about this. Is this a relatively new thing, or something that has been speculated about for some time? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445943) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:51 PM Author: Bateful Mother i mean you could build messages into other places also, it's just the most obvious and easy way to do it given that you are going to have to specify values for your fundamental constants anyway
there are also other ways you might detect if you're in a simulation, depending on what assumptions you make about how the simulation is done, e.g.:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1210.1847 |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon Right.
Whenever we assume some other consciousness used the laziest approach to do something we are usually on track. |
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Date: April 28th, 2018 9:00 AM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35937109) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2023 11:21 AM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#46345000) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:26 PM Author: Bateful Mother also just fyi there are 26 fundamental constants in our current models:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/constants.html |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:30 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon tyty didn't know there were so many.
Seems like this is where a message would be--sort of pasted in the irreduceable seams (that could be set differently but aren't). |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: Bateful Mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445587) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy insane stage haunted graveyard When u walk to the edge and can’t go any further due to invisible wall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445783) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: Stirring Soggy Multi-billionaire inside the infinite regressions going on in calculus like that "half the distance to the wall" metaphor but the sim tell is like some 550 T digit numbers of times, halving the distance, that no sensible person would run down on a high powered computer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35445821) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: olive swashbuckling business firm sneaky criminal God-experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35446009) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: Fantasy-prone tantric juggernaut site surprised no-one has mentioned the double slit experiment. arguably proves that reality is subjective.
it's a wave! no, it's a particle! no, it depends whether you look! |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: Bateful Mother as with most interesting questions about trying to link physics and metaphysics, it depends on your interpretation of quantum mechanics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35446279) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon I would have thought this was a slam dunk for proof that we live in a simulation inasmuch as it's like pixels destabilizing upon examination.
BUT 1) we need QM to do things like ignite stars, so QM is a necessary part of getting action in the universe, not just an accidental thing or programming defect. and 2) the dominant view now about double slit experiment isn't related to consciousness (which would imply a cool sort of video-game like simulation) but instead the multiverse model. I don't know what that does to simulation theory except put us in a very very insignificant spot. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:03 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35453718) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:52 PM Author: olive swashbuckling business firm sneaky criminal amused that spaceporn, avowed atheist, is spending real time itt wondering about a "message" written into reality by reality's creator(s) and discoverable by pilgrim souls who search devoutly enough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35454135) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:53 PM Author: sickened amber theatre weed whacker this is why weed is bad for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35454145) |
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Date: March 5th, 2018 4:47 PM Author: arousing tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35540797) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:38 AM Author: trip pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103414) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:54 PM Author: citrine whorehouse fixed speed of light (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35454150) |
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Date: December 27th, 2023 8:20 AM Author: sapphire area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#47217808) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2018 11:51 AM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35526467) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2018 11:53 AM Author: Slimy locus old irish cottage In my gargling bong water. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35526476) |
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Date: May 9th, 2018 9:52 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon fair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36019182) |
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Date: March 5th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#35540629) |
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Date: March 5th, 2018 4:39 PM Author: sapphire area clearly XO.
the amount of times i will read/see something in passing, load xo, and then suddenly there's a thread mentioning that thing i just read/saw is absolutely scary. |
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Date: May 9th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36019164) |
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Date: May 9th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: underhanded center corn cake one of your threads or in a huge bag of weed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36019165) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:33 AM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103376) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:35 AM Author: trip pit President Donald J. Trump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103389) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:36 AM Author: Mustard senate There are 26 universal constants.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ethansiegel/2015/08/22/it-takes-26-fundamental-constants-to-give-us-our-universe-but-they-still-dont-give-everything/ |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:37 AM Author: Mustard senate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_constant#Universal_constants (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103401) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:38 AM Author: Peach generalized bond the cemetery you pass all the time that never actually contained any dead people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103407) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM Author: electric cream foreskin abode I am positive that Saturn is NOT a computer and there is nothing strange about the hexagon on its north pole and the eye on its southern pole, and our moon is definitely NOT a transmission node for the simulation. Hth! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#36103428) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2022 12:24 PM Author: Cowardly Ruddy Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#44009818) |
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Date: December 27th, 2023 8:11 AM Author: curious greedy casino (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#47217766) |
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Date: December 27th, 2023 8:36 AM Author: Autistic station Peterman's shitpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3845279&forum_id=2#47217827) |