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Explain people who get fired in Biglaw

What do you have to do for a firm to actually fire you?
spectacular goyim forum
  01/04/18
Be smart enough to get fired and live a real life outside co...
Bateful queen of the night
  01/05/18
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crystalline ceo temple
  01/05/18
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Iridescent step-uncle's house
  01/05/18
Just have to pay off your 300k debt first.
arrogant state
  01/05/18
lol
Marvelous locus
  01/07/18
Miss an important deadline. Moral impropriety. Piss ...
Canary range
  01/04/18
seems about right, 180
spectacular goyim forum
  01/04/18
spin, ratfucks
carnelian rambunctious black woman senate
  01/04/18
No. In fact some of the most ethical men I know serve in the...
Canary range
  01/04/18
spin, ratfucks
carnelian rambunctious black woman senate
  01/04/18
Horse sex
Provocative chapel
  01/04/18
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Canary range
  01/04/18
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disrespectful stage idea he suggested
  01/05/18
spin, ratfucks
carnelian rambunctious black woman senate
  01/05/18
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thirsty garrison
  01/04/18
Depends on the firm. It's an up or out model, so if attritio...
Razzmatazz hall
  01/04/18
Credited although I'd hasten to add fewer and fewer firms in...
Canary range
  01/04/18
how does profit impact the calculus?
azure racy faggotry
  01/04/18
You keep people around as of counsel or non-equity. Still bi...
Canary range
  01/04/18
*shudders*
Razzmatazz hall
  01/04/18
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bronze brunch
  01/04/18
not really the worst gig in the world. what are they making...
supple den
  01/04/18
varies widely. many of counsel types arent seeing the large ...
Razzmatazz hall
  01/04/18
alright but I'd assume they still make a base salary that is...
supple den
  01/04/18
yeah i think thats fair, they prob are all making at least w...
Razzmatazz hall
  01/04/18
nyc biglaw counsel just graduating from the associate ranks ...
lascivious stag film
  01/04/18
sure, but it varies. also, not everyone is in nyc.
Razzmatazz hall
  01/04/18
that's better than all in at most firms for 8th year associa...
supple den
  01/04/18
are of counsel looked down on at all?
supple den
  01/04/18
That's a really broad question. In part because there are lo...
Canary range
  01/04/18
Cr, of counsels are not all the same
Razzmatazz hall
  01/04/18
seems like some firms now basically treat of counsel as thei...
territorial bearded sanctuary double fault
  01/05/18
Secenth year associates make 400k, all in.
frisky becky theater stage
  01/04/18
this really just effects senior associates getting a partner...
hairraiser sinister hissy fit cuckold
  01/05/18
This is very true
bronze brunch
  01/05/18
Not sure I agree. People are getting pushed "off-cycle&...
Canary range
  01/05/18
A generation ago many of these people would've just been ser...
hairraiser sinister hissy fit cuckold
  01/05/18
BOOMERS: never not fucking millenials
disrespectful stage idea he suggested
  01/05/18
Just be obviously not cut out for it. Lack of judgment is t...
appetizing duck-like clown place of business
  01/04/18
People who are marginal exit on their own, I say this as som...
appetizing duck-like clown place of business
  01/04/18
Good post except for referring to your firm or practice as a...
galvanic background story stead
  01/04/18
Explain what you mean by humane. Most 1-4 years who I obser...
passionate disgusting native
  01/05/18
They're told to find a new job, not fired.
appetizing duck-like clown place of business
  01/07/18
Trading crypto all day.
abnormal pea-brained meetinghouse knife
  01/04/18
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Canary range
  01/04/18
You get very bored after 4-5 years of doing the same thing e...
aromatic immigrant skinny woman
  01/04/18
Why the fuck are you ITT giving an opinion on this topic?
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  01/04/18
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beta juggernaut
  01/04/18
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Razzmatazz hall
  01/04/18
Poasting is like an RPG for him
Provocative chapel
  01/04/18
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harsh orchestra pit
  01/05/18
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contagious cuck incel
  01/05/18
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apoplectic haunted graveyard legal warrant
  01/05/18
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High-end Plum Scourge Upon The Earth School
  01/05/18
cq
Fragrant cyan affirmative action
  01/07/18
You never did biglaw, you midget loser
big address legend
  01/04/18
IME it’s damn near impossible to get fired. I tried to get f...
Saffron fiercely-loyal space
  01/04/18
Are you still taking your biglaw cocktail, tho?
thirsty garrison
  01/04/18
Coasted then gave notice. I got out alive. Still on the sauc...
Saffron fiercely-loyal space
  01/04/18
...
thirsty garrison
  01/04/18
like i said, depends on the firm
Razzmatazz hall
  01/04/18
how did you shirk work? i tried so hard to say no and it ...
lascivious stag film
  01/04/18
I only got up to 5th year so there was always someone above ...
Saffron fiercely-loyal space
  01/04/18
Lol
Beady-eyed metal goal in life philosopher-king
  01/04/18
Lol 180 use of the wedding excuse Are you practicing in ...
Salmon Half-breed Internal Respiration
  01/05/18
very 180
High-end Plum Scourge Upon The Earth School
  01/05/18
lmao i had a female friend in biglaw who was always a "...
fear-inspiring laughsome school cafeteria striped hyena
  01/05/18
1500 is not absurdly low though.
wonderful soggy feces
  01/04/18
(Not a flip flop-wearing associate)
Canary range
  01/04/18
I don’t know what my realization rate was but ljl if clients...
Saffron fiercely-loyal space
  01/04/18
IME, this is more broadly about the client/matter than the s...
wonderful soggy feces
  01/04/18
depends on the deals. lots of times the fees are so small...
fear-inspiring laughsome school cafeteria striped hyena
  01/05/18
What in the fuck are you talking about? You mean not low en...
razzle-dazzle sable institution
  01/05/18
theres no firm on earth where that would happen
wonderful soggy feces
  01/07/18
Call a female associate fat
sooty insanely creepy tanning salon
  01/04/18
What about people that have nervous breakdowns? Are they alw...
bossy slate parlour
  01/04/18
how about people who have relaxed and deliberate breakdowns?
razzle walnut brethren casino
  01/05/18
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Salmon Half-breed Internal Respiration
  01/05/18
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appetizing duck-like clown place of business
  01/07/18
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comical aquamarine psychic shitlib
  01/05/18
Guy that got canned as a junior here. Didn't bill much ...
glassy cracking dragon menage
  01/05/18
what are you doing now? (no doobs)
High-end Plum Scourge Upon The Earth School
  01/05/18
left law
glassy cracking dragon menage
  01/05/18
are you better off now?
High-end Plum Scourge Upon The Earth School
  01/05/18
Yes 100%. I knew I wouldn't last in big law and had no loa...
glassy cracking dragon menage
  01/05/18
good call
Salmon Half-breed Internal Respiration
  01/05/18
key word: HER you ran afoul of some catty bitch
Buff heady fanboi
  01/05/18
yup. (((She))) was insecure about her shitty practice area
glassy cracking dragon menage
  01/05/18


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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: spectacular goyim forum

What do you have to do for a firm to actually fire you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084050)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: Bateful queen of the night

Be smart enough to get fired and live a real life outside corporate slavery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35086985)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: crystalline ceo temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35088063)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: Iridescent step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35088126)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: arrogant state

Just have to pay off your 300k debt first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089829)



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Date: January 7th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Marvelous locus

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35102945)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Canary range

Miss an important deadline.

Moral impropriety.

Piss off an important partner.

Ethical violation.

Multiple failures of bar.

Give inaccurate, actionable guidance to an important client on a material issue.

Sustained low billing.

Criminal act.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084073)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: spectacular goyim forum

seems about right, 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084081)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: carnelian rambunctious black woman senate

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084110)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:11 PM
Author: Canary range

No. In fact some of the most ethical men I know serve in the V10 Corp.

Examples:

- Gross misappropriation of resources (expense falsification)

- Intentionally committing violations of ethical practice (e.g., evidence destruction)

- Attempts to use proprietary client information for personal profit

- Intentional breach of various client duties in an egregious fashion on a material issue (like confidentiality; self-dealing per above; privilege)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084147)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: carnelian rambunctious black woman senate

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084216)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:33 PM
Author: Provocative chapel

Horse sex

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084323)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: Canary range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084373)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 11:30 AM
Author: disrespectful stage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35087355)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: carnelian rambunctious black woman senate

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089500)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: thirsty garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084195)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:05 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hall

Depends on the firm. It's an up or out model, so if attrition isn't as expected ,they will push people out when they get too senior.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084091)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: Canary range

Credited although I'd hasten to add fewer and fewer firms in the V25 are up and out these days due to profit pressure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084103)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:10 PM
Author: azure racy faggotry

how does profit impact the calculus?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084138)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:12 PM
Author: Canary range

You keep people around as of counsel or non-equity. Still bill them out at $1k per hour based on their experience but pay them a fraction of what they'd make as a true partner. Profit. This is a major driver of profits in the last 10 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084158)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hall

*shudders*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084217)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: bronze brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084230)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:51 PM
Author: supple den

not really the worst gig in the world. what are they making like 400K all in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084463)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:52 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hall

varies widely. many of counsel types arent seeing the large bonuses senior associates get since their mobility is more limited. firms know they dont have to pay them to stay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084472)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:56 PM
Author: supple den

alright but I'd assume they still make a base salary that is comparable to high level associates at least?

I can't imagine you'd go up to 315K then drop down to 200K or something when you become of counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084496)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:56 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hall

yeah i think thats fair, they prob are all making at least what an 8th year makes base, maybe more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084508)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:59 PM
Author: lascivious stag film

nyc biglaw counsel just graduating from the associate ranks make $400-450k all in ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084530)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:59 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hall

sure, but it varies. also, not everyone is in nyc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084537)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: supple den

that's better than all in at most firms for 8th year associates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084546)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: supple den

are of counsel looked down on at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084548)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: Canary range

That's a really broad question. In part because there are lots of different paths to of counsel and in part because different people take different attitudes toward them. The default premise of an of counsel is you're no longer in the running for true partnership at the firm. That could be because you can't generate sufficient business or because of politics or because of an economic cycle or your talent level or because you're simply an older former equity partner who is winding down. Whether that gets looked down on depends on the person you're dealing with. Some people view of counsel as wise dudes / ladies who make the best bargain in biglaw; others as people who couldn't cut it; others as victims of unfortunate timing or circumstance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084591)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hall

Cr, of counsels are not all the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084740)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: territorial bearded sanctuary double fault

seems like some firms now basically treat of counsel as their new term for nonequity partners and just hold them there for two years before equity. at my firm of counsels are either deequitized former partners who for some reason decided to stay, former non-equity partners that didn't make equity in the time required, mommy trackers, or supersenior associate socially awkward types who are good lawyers but had zero chance of developing business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35088127)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: frisky becky theater stage

Secenth year associates make 400k, all in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084741)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 1:40 AM
Author: hairraiser sinister hissy fit cuckold

this really just effects senior associates getting a partnership look. there's still up-or-out pressure at every step of the way before then, and after then a lot of non-equities get pushed out if they don't make equity. PLUS, because these roles have by and large replaced equity partnership for millennials, all it did was change what "up" was, not reduce up-or-out pressure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35085753)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 1:52 AM
Author: bronze brunch

This is very true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35085808)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: Canary range

Not sure I agree. People are getting pushed "off-cycle" at almost every step of the journey these days in ways that just didn't exist a generation ago. I know of everyone from midlevel associates to former BSD equity partners who have been transitioned into of-counsel roles (and people in-between--junior partners who aren't going to get the real golden ring; people who want to transition to part time practice).

Many of these individuals would have simply been told "goodbye" a generation ago. But somewhere along the way law firms got wise to the fact that keeping people around in permanent non-partnership capacities was a major untapped profit center. Hence the deterioration in the up and out model. It still exists, to be sure, but it's now a heavily watered down version of what it once was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35086967)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 12:04 PM
Author: hairraiser sinister hissy fit cuckold

A generation ago many of these people would've just been service partners where they hang around underproducing for the rest of their careers after their patron is gone, which is why there's so many worthless boomer partners. The service equity partner role is being replaced by of-counsel and permanent associate roles. Sure there are other ways to get there (part time arrangements, random technical expertise) but these opportunities aren't available to most.

I think what you're saying about reducing pressure only applies at a handful of hyper competitive firms that would only promote an extremely limited number of partners in the first place. It's much smaller than V25; it's an tiny assortment of elite boutiques and top firms from around the country. But even then, there's only so much demand for de facto service partners, so once one tax of counsel role gets filled there isn't going to be room for another, ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35087544)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: disrespectful stage idea he suggested

BOOMERS: never not fucking millenials

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35087362)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:05 PM
Author: appetizing duck-like clown place of business

Just be obviously not cut out for it. Lack of judgment is the insta-killer. You can be supreme at the law and have no idea how to handle a human interaction and have a better chance of breakfast than someone who everyone loves but made an obvious client relations mistake. The likable nerd would have asked the partner.

I worked for a humane shop and my favorite people are still there and have either made partner or are up for partner. The retards (people who fuck up in years 1-4) get pushed out in a humane way. They are retards tho, so they don't realize it's humane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084093)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: appetizing duck-like clown place of business

People who are marginal exit on their own, I say this as someone who was top tier marginal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084177)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:34 PM
Author: galvanic background story stead

Good post except for referring to your firm or practice as a "shop."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084327)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 11:08 AM
Author: passionate disgusting native

Explain what you mean by humane. Most 1-4 years who I observed getting pushed out got booted quickly and with no prospect to find anything else. The humane push outs I saw when I was still in biglaw were typically mid and senior associates who were not making breakfast or counsel, and they would get stuff like the firm would let them keep their name on the website for an eternity after they were gone and tell prospective employers they still worked at firm. This was 10+ years ago, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35087240)



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Date: January 7th, 2018 6:49 AM
Author: appetizing duck-like clown place of business

They're told to find a new job, not fired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35100825)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:05 PM
Author: abnormal pea-brained meetinghouse knife

Trading crypto all day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084095)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: Canary range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084106)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: aromatic immigrant skinny woman

You get very bored after 4-5 years of doing the same thing every day without end no matter how good the comp is. It is not intellectually stimulating. The chasing commas thing is beyond draining. At one point you just stop giving a fuck and just phone it in until they fire you. Most people can't do that shit indefinitely without snapping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084171)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: submissive painfully honest mad-dog skullcap sex offender

Why the fuck are you ITT giving an opinion on this topic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084232)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:24 PM
Author: beta juggernaut



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hall



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: Provocative chapel

Poasting is like an RPG for him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084362)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 1:56 AM
Author: harsh orchestra pit



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Date: January 5th, 2018 2:47 AM
Author: contagious cuck incel



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Date: January 5th, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: apoplectic haunted graveyard legal warrant



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Date: January 5th, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: High-end Plum Scourge Upon The Earth School



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Date: January 7th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Fragrant cyan affirmative action

cq

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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:29 PM
Author: big address legend

You never did biglaw, you midget loser

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084291)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Saffron fiercely-loyal space

IME it’s damn near impossible to get fired. I tried to get fired from a v10 and then a v30, billed 1500 hours a year of padded as fuck entries and didn’t go in on fridays for 7 months at a time, among other nonfeasance, and still had to resign. You are profitable even being a slackass biller and they don’t want to pay you severance or unemployment so it’s sorta like an unspoken bargain that you can coat for a loooong time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084404)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: thirsty garrison

Are you still taking your biglaw cocktail, tho?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084451)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: Saffron fiercely-loyal space

Coasted then gave notice. I got out alive. Still on the sauce but no longer using amphetamines to regulate normal bodily functions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084566)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: thirsty garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084645)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 10:51 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hall

like i said, depends on the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084465)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: lascivious stag film

how did you shirk work?

i tried so hard to say no and it was like pounding sand. they just insisted. of course i never said "no or i'll quit" but can't imagine you can go nuclear like that and keep your job for long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084554)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: Saffron fiercely-loyal space

I only got up to 5th year so there was always someone above me that I could square with and just say “look bro, I’m not in this for a long time and I’m burnt out, find someone else”.

I also just faked a wedding where I was a groomsman anytime weekend work came up or someone called me out on not being in office Friday’s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084590)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:30 PM
Author: Beady-eyed metal goal in life philosopher-king

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084855)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: Salmon Half-breed Internal Respiration

Lol 180 use of the wedding excuse

Are you practicing in a firm now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35087254)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: High-end Plum Scourge Upon The Earth School

very 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35087312)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: fear-inspiring laughsome school cafeteria striped hyena

lmao i had a female friend in biglaw who was always a "bridesmaid" in a "cousin's wedding" every time she wanted to get out of something,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089632)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: wonderful soggy feces

1500 is not absurdly low though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084613)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:08 PM
Author: Canary range

(Not a flip flop-wearing associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084637)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:11 PM
Author: Saffron fiercely-loyal space

I don’t know what my realization rate was but ljl if clients were paying for my 7.7 (review and analyze draft term sheet and incorporate comments re same).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084670)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:48 PM
Author: wonderful soggy feces

IME, this is more broadly about the client/matter than the specific work performed (e.g., every associate's hours are cut no matter what the quality or none are).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35085017)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: fear-inspiring laughsome school cafeteria striped hyena

depends on the deals.

lots of times the fees are so small relative to the deal size that the client doesn't care.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089640)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle sable institution

What in the fuck are you talking about? You mean not low enough for them to pull you into a conference room 3 months in (which I guess would be 375 hours) and summarily shitcan you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089774)



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Date: January 7th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: wonderful soggy feces

theres no firm on earth where that would happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35102936)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:05 PM
Author: sooty insanely creepy tanning salon

Call a female associate fat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084604)



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Date: January 4th, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: bossy slate parlour

What about people that have nervous breakdowns? Are they always quietly pushed out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35084692)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: razzle walnut brethren casino

how about people who have relaxed and deliberate breakdowns?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35087010)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: Salmon Half-breed Internal Respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35087317)



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Date: January 7th, 2018 6:48 AM
Author: appetizing duck-like clown place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35100823)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: comical aquamarine psychic shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35088043)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: glassy cracking dragon menage

Guy that got canned as a junior here.

Didn't bill much (about 1400 hours first year), was miserable and it was obvious to everyone (mentor told me to act happier), and offended the rainmaker partner of the group because I hated the work she did and did everything possible to avoid her projects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089558)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: High-end Plum Scourge Upon The Earth School

what are you doing now? (no doobs)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089587)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: glassy cracking dragon menage

left law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089749)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: High-end Plum Scourge Upon The Earth School

are you better off now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089820)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: glassy cracking dragon menage

Yes 100%. I knew I wouldn't last in big law and had no loans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089994)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: Salmon Half-breed Internal Respiration

good call

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089822)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Buff heady fanboi

key word: HER

you ran afoul of some catty bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089675)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: glassy cracking dragon menage

yup. (((She))) was insecure about her shitty practice area

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3849793&forum_id=2#35089743)