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Fun Legal Hypo (Receiving Duplicate Shipment) - From Talmud Law Class

moishe buys a book online. the vendor says it's supposed to ...
Stirring corner regret
  01/12/18
"what are moishe's obligations with respect to the two ...
Aggressive charismatic crotch abode
  01/12/18
so if the seller says nothing, he can keep the book?
Stirring corner regret
  01/12/18
Sure.
Aggressive charismatic crotch abode
  01/12/18
He should encourage open borders and race mixing in the US w...
Ungodly Property
  01/12/18
lmao
Insanely Creepy Apoplectic Dog Poop
  01/12/18
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puce hilarious halford kitty cat
  01/12/18
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excitant chapel wrinkle
  01/12/18
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Hot brilliant stock car
  01/24/18
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Lilac bawdyhouse indirect expression
  01/27/18
Assuming that it would cost him money to send it back, and h...
Garnet Depressive Church Building
  01/24/18
without the company asking for the first book back one shoul...
Razzmatazz private investor feces
  01/24/18
This is much more nuanced then at first glance
Garnet Depressive Church Building
  01/24/18
At no point does he demand another book, he checks status wi...
Hot brilliant stock car
  01/24/18
SOLUTION: the first book is considered a lost object. ...
Stirring corner regret
  01/26/18
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Hot brilliant stock car
  01/26/18
This is the most obvious one - but there is also Deut 24:19 ...
Garnet Depressive Church Building
  01/27/18
Lulz I came in here to make a joke that the answer depend...
Overrated pit haunted graveyard
  01/27/18
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Stirring corner regret
  01/27/18
no wonder Jesus was so flippant to the pharisees.
greedy ticket booth
  01/28/18
"it will make jews look like fools and suckers" ...
Aggressive charismatic crotch abode
  01/28/18
they bend on the shit till it break
Hot brilliant stock car
  01/28/18
"We should look insular and greedy." "Yeah...
Aggressive charismatic crotch abode
  01/28/18


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Date: January 12th, 2018 1:10 PM
Author: Stirring corner regret

moishe buys a book online. the vendor says it's supposed to arrive in a week, but it doesnt. he contacts them and they say to wait another week. he contacts them after another week, and they tell him that they've gone ahead and sent him out a second book. within a week, both books arrive.

what are moishe's obligations with respect to the two books?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35140498)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 1:22 PM
Author: Aggressive charismatic crotch abode

"what are moishe's obligations with respect to the two books?"

If requested by seller within a reasonable time, must return one book if not materially inconvenient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35140602)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: Stirring corner regret

so if the seller says nothing, he can keep the book?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35140777)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: Aggressive charismatic crotch abode

Sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35144762)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: Ungodly Property

He should encourage open borders and race mixing in the US while denying those same human rights causes for Israel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35140525)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Apoplectic Dog Poop

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35140604)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 11:16 PM
Author: puce hilarious halford kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35144792)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: excitant chapel wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35145070)



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Date: January 24th, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: Hot brilliant stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35231437)



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Date: January 27th, 2018 12:36 AM
Author: Lilac bawdyhouse indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35250383)



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Date: January 24th, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: Garnet Depressive Church Building

Assuming that it would cost him money to send it back, and he can't drop it into a free return kind of thing, he can keep the book.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35231379)



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Date: January 24th, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Razzmatazz private investor feces

without the company asking for the first book back one should assume they knew he would get two books and that's to boost him coming back which they've calculated as being more profitable than him getting one late book then shopping elsewhere. this is an economic behavioral issue and outside morality at this juncture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35231399)



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Date: January 24th, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: Garnet Depressive Church Building

This is much more nuanced then at first glance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35231409)



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Date: January 24th, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: Hot brilliant stock car

At no point does he demand another book, he checks status with them in these calls as a normal buyer would.

They send a second as good business practice almost certainly knowing that things do not get lost in transit in the modern age. They chose the shipping company and they chose this action.

How can they create an obligation on him to ship a book back to them? What is the basis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35231471)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: Stirring corner regret

SOLUTION:

the first book is considered a lost object.

the threshold question is whether the vendor is a jew.

a jew must return lost objects to another jew. so, if the vendor is a jew, moishe needs to make a reasonable effort to notify the vendor and ask them how to proceed. the vendor needs to mitigate any loss by moishe, i.e. arrange for the return shipping and not inconvenience him.

a jew generally has no obligation to return a lost object to a non-jew, and in most cases he is specifically FORBIDDEN from doing so for various reasons (eg it will make jews look like fools and suckers). the only time a jew is even permitted to return a lost object to a goy is if it will make the jewish nation look good.

if the vendor isn't jewish, there's no evidence that moishe would get goodwill for the jews out of sending the book back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35246975)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: Hot brilliant stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35247041)



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Date: January 27th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: Garnet Depressive Church Building

This is the most obvious one - but there is also Deut 24:19 to consider which is why I posted about this being much more nuanced than it appears from the first glance (most plain interpretation)

Under this vein of reasoning the book company shouldn't ask for it back if they are Jewish owned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35250322)



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Date: January 27th, 2018 12:38 AM
Author: Overrated pit haunted graveyard

Lulz

I came in here to make a joke that the answer depends on whether the seller is a Jew or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35250390)



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Date: January 27th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: Stirring corner regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35256369)



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Date: January 28th, 2018 12:37 AM
Author: greedy ticket booth

no wonder Jesus was so flippant to the pharisees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35257931)



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Date: January 28th, 2018 1:06 AM
Author: Aggressive charismatic crotch abode

"it will make jews look like fools and suckers"

That isn't even close to what has historically caused Jews trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35258132)



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Date: January 28th, 2018 1:07 AM
Author: Hot brilliant stock car

they bend on the shit till it break

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35258141)



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Date: January 28th, 2018 1:09 AM
Author: Aggressive charismatic crotch abode

"We should look insular and greedy."

"Yeah, that should work."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3857363&forum_id=2#35258150)