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Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America? [LATimes]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-californi...
snowy becky hall
  01/14/18
It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving ...
razzle-dazzle maize ticket booth
  01/14/18
Lose some weight, you fat faggot.
mildly autistic space police squad
  01/14/18
Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meanin...
floppy mexican
  01/14/18
and yet socialism always ends up the same way- a failure. ...
razzle-dazzle maize ticket booth
  01/14/18
Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatib...
Outnumbered abode foreskin
  03/19/18
(shitlib)
Irate jew internal respiration
  03/19/18
Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capital...
Cerebral mewling gas station legal warrant
  03/19/18
ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend...
Learning disabled impertinent keepsake machete cumskin
  03/19/18
>> Any system ruled by political parties will always m...
Motley address immigrant
  03/19/18
LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed t...
Outnumbered abode foreskin
  03/19/18
is this the future Biden was talking about?
big apoplectic queen of the night azn
  01/14/18
The California government needs to be deposed
flushed den
  01/14/18
lol how did this get published
hairraiser twisted national roast beef
  01/14/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=2...
soggy vivacious public bath filthpig
  01/14/18
San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless peo...
Onyx Masturbator Striped Hyena
  01/14/18
They'll still find a way to blame conservatives
galvanic obsidian business firm
  01/14/18
This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless populat...
Learning disabled impertinent keepsake machete cumskin
  03/19/18
They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. L...
umber weed whacker
  03/19/18
Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own si...
Learning disabled impertinent keepsake machete cumskin
  03/19/18
Odd case.
Stimulating fishy spot multi-billionaire
  01/14/18
odd case
Magenta sanctuary
  03/19/18
also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figu...
Vigorous Area Electric Furnace
  03/19/18
It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ev...
soggy vivacious public bath filthpig
  03/19/18
or negatively affect wealth
Vigorous Area Electric Furnace
  03/19/18
But see above re poverty rate
Magenta sanctuary
  03/19/18
Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse...
turquoise tanning salon
  03/19/18
lol more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wan...
boyish site liquid oxygen
  03/19/18
"California, with 12% of the American population, is ho...
Multi-colored Nowag
  03/19/18
holy fuck
light plaza
  03/19/18
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Magenta sanctuary
  03/19/18
Moths to a flame
soggy vivacious public bath filthpig
  03/19/18
...
blathering stage
  03/19/18
titchwhs
boyish site liquid oxygen
  03/19/18
It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go w...
Lascivious infuriating locus laser beams
  03/19/18
And they also go where the benefits are. That's why a c...
Learning disabled impertinent keepsake machete cumskin
  03/19/18
it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrou...
Motley address immigrant
  03/19/18
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boyish site liquid oxygen
  03/19/18
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Appetizing ruddy gaping church building
  03/19/18
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Wine indian lodge juggernaut
  03/19/18
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Arousing Spruce Ape Pit
  03/19/18
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bespoke provocative dragon stage
  03/19/18
i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT wors...
Lascivious infuriating locus laser beams
  03/19/18
...
Honey-headed dopamine
  03/19/18
receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vot...
excitant fighting genital piercing pervert
  03/19/18
truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare ...
Motley address immigrant
  03/19/18
Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and t...
excitant fighting genital piercing pervert
  03/19/18
Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case...
Dead Macaca
  03/19/18
Did you even read the article
Learning disabled impertinent keepsake machete cumskin
  03/19/18


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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: snowy becky hall

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153547)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle maize ticket booth

It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving a dependency trap in place. Immigrants are falling into it: 55% of immigrant families in the state get some kind of means-tested benefits, compared with just 30% of natives.

Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base.

scum democrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153715)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: mildly autistic space police squad

Lose some weight, you fat faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154100)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: floppy mexican

Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meaning, but they are not immune from trying to secure their own survival. Vicious cycle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154398)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle maize ticket booth

and yet socialism always ends up the same way-

a failure.

there would be far fewer socialists here if our education system was better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154769)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Outnumbered abode foreskin

Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatible with human nature capitalism is when a substantial mass of the populace still prefers socialism in spite of the bourgeoisie's unrelenting efforts to indoctrinate them with a false consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638679)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Irate jew internal respiration

(shitlib)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638742)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Cerebral mewling gas station legal warrant

Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capitalism. Moreover what we have today is not capitalism it’s a perverted mix of both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Learning disabled impertinent keepsake machete cumskin

ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend that free stuff is just another glorious socialist revolution away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638752)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Motley address immigrant

>> Any system ruled by political parties will always move to the left. Their business model is based on getting low status people to work for them. Obviously they must give them something in exchange. And they must motivate voters to vote for them. Their promise is simple: You, low status people, help us out, vote for us, obey our commands, and we will give you high status. Don’t vote for us, disobey us, let the right win, and you will remain low status. <<

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/bioleninism-the-first-step/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638774)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Outnumbered abode foreskin

LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed to those parties' corporate paymasters-- have run this country's political system to any extent over the last 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638935)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: big apoplectic queen of the night azn

is this the future Biden was talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153722)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: flushed den

The California government needs to be deposed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153834)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: hairraiser twisted national roast beef

lol how did this get published

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153983)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: soggy vivacious public bath filthpig

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=24&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153994)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Onyx Masturbator Striped Hyena

San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless people shitting in the streets and shooting up in front of million dollar apartments and offices of multi billion dollar companies



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154124)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: galvanic obsidian business firm

They'll still find a way to blame conservatives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154717)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Learning disabled impertinent keepsake machete cumskin

This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless population is less than 1% of the city, yet the residents have collectively decided to completely cede the quality of their city to them. Imagine how much more pleasant SF would be if police actually enforced vagrancy laws and the government "encouraged" people to leave with free one way bus tickets out of town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638483)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: umber weed whacker

They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639653)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Learning disabled impertinent keepsake machete cumskin

Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own side in a fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639799)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: Stimulating fishy spot multi-billionaire

Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154744)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Magenta sanctuary

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638457)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Vigorous Area Electric Furnace

also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638463)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: soggy vivacious public bath filthpig

It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ever solve poverty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638476)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Vigorous Area Electric Furnace

or negatively affect wealth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638494)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Magenta sanctuary

But see above re poverty rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638559)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: turquoise tanning salon

Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638497)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: boyish site liquid oxygen

lol

more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wannabe libs are only interested in redistribution as a rhetorical tool allowing them to accumulate power by whipping up the masses for votes

yielding little to no benefit for said masses bc an astonishing number of any funds taken for redistribution are lost to corruption and incompetence = feature, not bug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638583)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Multi-colored Nowag

"California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation's welfare recipients."

Haha. Wow. Holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638499)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: light plaza

holy fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638503)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Magenta sanctuary



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: soggy vivacious public bath filthpig

Moths to a flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638552)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: blathering stage



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: boyish site liquid oxygen

titchwhs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638604)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Lascivious infuriating locus laser beams

It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go where it’s warm year round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638736)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Learning disabled impertinent keepsake machete cumskin

And they also go where the benefits are.

That's why a city or even a state can't fix homelessness-- even if they did, then new homeless would stream in.

It would be totally worth it for the federal government to build massive complexes where the land is cheap and, essentially, institutionalize the mentally ill, incarcerate the truly criminal, and just give cash and a place to get back on their feet to people who are truly just down on their luck. But between conservative unwillingness to spend money and shitlibs treating the homeless as a class above the law, this isn't anywhere close to happening. So here we sit, surrendering the quality of our cities for no good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638762)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Motley address immigrant

it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638780)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: boyish site liquid oxygen



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Appetizing ruddy gaping church building



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Wine indian lodge juggernaut



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Arousing Spruce Ape Pit



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: bespoke provocative dragon stage



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Lascivious infuriating locus laser beams

i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT worse by limiting it to just SF and LA.

Like they combined have like 2% of the country's population and like 25% of the homeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638874)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Honey-headed dopamine



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: excitant fighting genital piercing pervert

receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vote dem. odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639164)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: Motley address immigrant

truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639728)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: excitant fighting genital piercing pervert

Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639741)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Dead Macaca

Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639174)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Learning disabled impertinent keepsake machete cumskin

Did you even read the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639294)