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Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America? [LATimes]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-californi...
Pink abode
  01/14/18
It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving ...
walnut multi-colored ape
  01/14/18
Lose some weight, you fat faggot.
Cocky Sexy Pisswyrm
  01/14/18
Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meanin...
Umber area sex offender
  01/14/18
and yet socialism always ends up the same way- a failure. ...
walnut multi-colored ape
  01/14/18
Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatib...
Primrose Gas Station Gay Wizard
  03/19/18
(shitlib)
impressive passionate lay
  03/19/18
Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capital...
aromatic plaza
  03/19/18
ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend...
Aphrodisiac brass mad cow disease kitchen
  03/19/18
>> Any system ruled by political parties will always m...
thriller splenetic mental disorder stead
  03/19/18
LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed t...
Primrose Gas Station Gay Wizard
  03/19/18
is this the future Biden was talking about?
diverse slimy toilet seat
  01/14/18
The California government needs to be deposed
Drunken wonderful stock car
  01/14/18
lol how did this get published
glittery stain
  01/14/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=2...
mewling irradiated love of her life resort
  01/14/18
San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless peo...
translucent floppy double fault internal respiration
  01/14/18
They'll still find a way to blame conservatives
orange regret
  01/14/18
This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless populat...
Aphrodisiac brass mad cow disease kitchen
  03/19/18
They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. L...
soggy saffron spot
  03/19/18
Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own si...
Aphrodisiac brass mad cow disease kitchen
  03/19/18
Odd case.
Spectacular pontificating hissy fit
  01/14/18
odd case
Green bearded kitty cat round eye
  03/19/18
also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figu...
hateful therapy
  03/19/18
It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ev...
mewling irradiated love of her life resort
  03/19/18
or negatively affect wealth
hateful therapy
  03/19/18
But see above re poverty rate
Green bearded kitty cat round eye
  03/19/18
Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse...
trip address
  03/19/18
lol more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wan...
Tripping Foreskin Wagecucks
  03/19/18
"California, with 12% of the American population, is ho...
razzle-dazzle pozpig
  03/19/18
holy fuck
overrated den selfie
  03/19/18
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Green bearded kitty cat round eye
  03/19/18
Moths to a flame
mewling irradiated love of her life resort
  03/19/18
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swashbuckling center
  03/19/18
titchwhs
Tripping Foreskin Wagecucks
  03/19/18
It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go w...
Bossy brilliant stag film private investor
  03/19/18
And they also go where the benefits are. That's why a c...
Aphrodisiac brass mad cow disease kitchen
  03/19/18
it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrou...
thriller splenetic mental disorder stead
  03/19/18
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Tripping Foreskin Wagecucks
  03/19/18
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180 mauve locale scourge upon the earth
  03/19/18
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cracking milk
  03/19/18
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gold balding newt school cafeteria
  03/19/18
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flesh excitant black woman church
  03/19/18
i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT wors...
Bossy brilliant stag film private investor
  03/19/18
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Comical sickened voyeur orchestra pit
  03/19/18
receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vot...
Histrionic rigor
  03/19/18
truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare ...
thriller splenetic mental disorder stead
  03/19/18
Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and t...
Histrionic rigor
  03/19/18
Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case...
Mint cruel-hearted parlor nowag
  03/19/18
Did you even read the article
Aphrodisiac brass mad cow disease kitchen
  03/19/18


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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: Pink abode

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153547)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: walnut multi-colored ape

It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving a dependency trap in place. Immigrants are falling into it: 55% of immigrant families in the state get some kind of means-tested benefits, compared with just 30% of natives.

Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base.

scum democrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153715)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: Cocky Sexy Pisswyrm

Lose some weight, you fat faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154100)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Umber area sex offender

Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meaning, but they are not immune from trying to secure their own survival. Vicious cycle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154398)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: walnut multi-colored ape

and yet socialism always ends up the same way-

a failure.

there would be far fewer socialists here if our education system was better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154769)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Primrose Gas Station Gay Wizard

Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatible with human nature capitalism is when a substantial mass of the populace still prefers socialism in spite of the bourgeoisie's unrelenting efforts to indoctrinate them with a false consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638679)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: impressive passionate lay

(shitlib)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638742)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: aromatic plaza

Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capitalism. Moreover what we have today is not capitalism it’s a perverted mix of both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac brass mad cow disease kitchen

ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend that free stuff is just another glorious socialist revolution away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638752)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: thriller splenetic mental disorder stead

>> Any system ruled by political parties will always move to the left. Their business model is based on getting low status people to work for them. Obviously they must give them something in exchange. And they must motivate voters to vote for them. Their promise is simple: You, low status people, help us out, vote for us, obey our commands, and we will give you high status. Don’t vote for us, disobey us, let the right win, and you will remain low status. <<

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/bioleninism-the-first-step/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638774)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Primrose Gas Station Gay Wizard

LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed to those parties' corporate paymasters-- have run this country's political system to any extent over the last 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638935)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: diverse slimy toilet seat

is this the future Biden was talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153722)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: Drunken wonderful stock car

The California government needs to be deposed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153834)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: glittery stain

lol how did this get published

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153983)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: mewling irradiated love of her life resort

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=24&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153994)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: translucent floppy double fault internal respiration

San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless people shitting in the streets and shooting up in front of million dollar apartments and offices of multi billion dollar companies



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154124)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: orange regret

They'll still find a way to blame conservatives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154717)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac brass mad cow disease kitchen

This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless population is less than 1% of the city, yet the residents have collectively decided to completely cede the quality of their city to them. Imagine how much more pleasant SF would be if police actually enforced vagrancy laws and the government "encouraged" people to leave with free one way bus tickets out of town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638483)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: soggy saffron spot

They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639653)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac brass mad cow disease kitchen

Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own side in a fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639799)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: Spectacular pontificating hissy fit

Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154744)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Green bearded kitty cat round eye

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638457)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: hateful therapy

also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638463)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: mewling irradiated love of her life resort

It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ever solve poverty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638476)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: hateful therapy

or negatively affect wealth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638494)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Green bearded kitty cat round eye

But see above re poverty rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638559)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: trip address

Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638497)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: Tripping Foreskin Wagecucks

lol

more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wannabe libs are only interested in redistribution as a rhetorical tool allowing them to accumulate power by whipping up the masses for votes

yielding little to no benefit for said masses bc an astonishing number of any funds taken for redistribution are lost to corruption and incompetence = feature, not bug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638583)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle pozpig

"California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation's welfare recipients."

Haha. Wow. Holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638499)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: overrated den selfie

holy fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638503)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Green bearded kitty cat round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638504)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: mewling irradiated love of her life resort

Moths to a flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638552)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: swashbuckling center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638598)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: Tripping Foreskin Wagecucks

titchwhs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638604)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Bossy brilliant stag film private investor

It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go where it’s warm year round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638736)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac brass mad cow disease kitchen

And they also go where the benefits are.

That's why a city or even a state can't fix homelessness-- even if they did, then new homeless would stream in.

It would be totally worth it for the federal government to build massive complexes where the land is cheap and, essentially, institutionalize the mentally ill, incarcerate the truly criminal, and just give cash and a place to get back on their feet to people who are truly just down on their luck. But between conservative unwillingness to spend money and shitlibs treating the homeless as a class above the law, this isn't anywhere close to happening. So here we sit, surrendering the quality of our cities for no good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638762)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: thriller splenetic mental disorder stead

it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638780)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Tripping Foreskin Wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639147)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: 180 mauve locale scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: cracking milk



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: gold balding newt school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638770)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: flesh excitant black woman church



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Bossy brilliant stag film private investor

i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT worse by limiting it to just SF and LA.

Like they combined have like 2% of the country's population and like 25% of the homeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638874)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Comical sickened voyeur orchestra pit



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Histrionic rigor

receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vote dem. odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639164)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: thriller splenetic mental disorder stead

truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639728)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Histrionic rigor

Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639741)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Mint cruel-hearted parlor nowag

Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639174)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac brass mad cow disease kitchen

Did you even read the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639294)