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Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America? [LATimes]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-californi...
hairraiser chocolate temple
  01/14/18
It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving ...
Indigo Exciting House
  01/14/18
Lose some weight, you fat faggot.
Laughsome pale kitty cat wrinkle
  01/14/18
Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meanin...
cracking incel
  01/14/18
and yet socialism always ends up the same way- a failure. ...
Indigo Exciting House
  01/14/18
Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatib...
Cyan bonkers school trump supporter
  03/19/18
(shitlib)
copper mother
  03/19/18
Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capital...
Spectacular lay headpube
  03/19/18
ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend...
Bisexual Becky Cruise Ship
  03/19/18
>> Any system ruled by political parties will always m...
Mind-boggling startled base
  03/19/18
LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed t...
Cyan bonkers school trump supporter
  03/19/18
is this the future Biden was talking about?
hyperventilating frisky azn
  01/14/18
The California government needs to be deposed
Sienna stage regret
  01/14/18
lol how did this get published
Self-centered private investor
  01/14/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=2...
Aphrodisiac coral forum degenerate
  01/14/18
San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless peo...
abnormal transparent range windowlicker
  01/14/18
They'll still find a way to blame conservatives
Orchid bat-shit-crazy market fortuitous meteor
  01/14/18
This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless populat...
Bisexual Becky Cruise Ship
  03/19/18
They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. L...
Snowy galvanic cuck
  03/19/18
Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own si...
Bisexual Becky Cruise Ship
  03/19/18
Odd case.
supple burgundy spot
  01/14/18
odd case
Racy friendly grandma dingle berry
  03/19/18
also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figu...
Razzle-dazzle psychic mental disorder
  03/19/18
It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ev...
Aphrodisiac coral forum degenerate
  03/19/18
or negatively affect wealth
Razzle-dazzle psychic mental disorder
  03/19/18
But see above re poverty rate
Racy friendly grandma dingle berry
  03/19/18
Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse...
umber angry location
  03/19/18
lol more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wan...
rough-skinned appetizing juggernaut
  03/19/18
"California, with 12% of the American population, is ho...
Flatulent chestnut church
  03/19/18
holy fuck
Pungent rigpig mad cow disease
  03/19/18
...
Racy friendly grandma dingle berry
  03/19/18
Moths to a flame
Aphrodisiac coral forum degenerate
  03/19/18
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Massive trip ticket booth indirect expression
  03/19/18
titchwhs
rough-skinned appetizing juggernaut
  03/19/18
It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go w...
chest-beating splenetic twinkling uncleanness
  03/19/18
And they also go where the benefits are. That's why a c...
Bisexual Becky Cruise Ship
  03/19/18
it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrou...
Mind-boggling startled base
  03/19/18
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rough-skinned appetizing juggernaut
  03/19/18
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Shivering Nursing Home
  03/19/18
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cerebral cobalt coldplay fan
  03/19/18
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insanely creepy voyeur
  03/19/18
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Infuriating Scarlet Dilemma Mood
  03/19/18
i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT wors...
chest-beating splenetic twinkling uncleanness
  03/19/18
...
Exhilarant Bat Shit Crazy Library Affirmative Action
  03/19/18
receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vot...
Comical Meetinghouse
  03/19/18
truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare ...
Mind-boggling startled base
  03/19/18
Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and t...
Comical Meetinghouse
  03/19/18
Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case...
Honey-headed Shrine
  03/19/18
Did you even read the article
Bisexual Becky Cruise Ship
  03/19/18


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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: hairraiser chocolate temple

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153547)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: Indigo Exciting House

It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving a dependency trap in place. Immigrants are falling into it: 55% of immigrant families in the state get some kind of means-tested benefits, compared with just 30% of natives.

Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base.

scum democrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153715)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: Laughsome pale kitty cat wrinkle

Lose some weight, you fat faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154100)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: cracking incel

Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meaning, but they are not immune from trying to secure their own survival. Vicious cycle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154398)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Indigo Exciting House

and yet socialism always ends up the same way-

a failure.

there would be far fewer socialists here if our education system was better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154769)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Cyan bonkers school trump supporter

Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatible with human nature capitalism is when a substantial mass of the populace still prefers socialism in spite of the bourgeoisie's unrelenting efforts to indoctrinate them with a false consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638679)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: copper mother

(shitlib)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638742)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Spectacular lay headpube

Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capitalism. Moreover what we have today is not capitalism it’s a perverted mix of both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Bisexual Becky Cruise Ship

ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend that free stuff is just another glorious socialist revolution away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638752)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Mind-boggling startled base

>> Any system ruled by political parties will always move to the left. Their business model is based on getting low status people to work for them. Obviously they must give them something in exchange. And they must motivate voters to vote for them. Their promise is simple: You, low status people, help us out, vote for us, obey our commands, and we will give you high status. Don’t vote for us, disobey us, let the right win, and you will remain low status. <<

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/bioleninism-the-first-step/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638774)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Cyan bonkers school trump supporter

LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed to those parties' corporate paymasters-- have run this country's political system to any extent over the last 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638935)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: hyperventilating frisky azn

is this the future Biden was talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153722)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: Sienna stage regret

The California government needs to be deposed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153834)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: Self-centered private investor

lol how did this get published

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153983)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac coral forum degenerate

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=24&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153994)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: abnormal transparent range windowlicker

San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless people shitting in the streets and shooting up in front of million dollar apartments and offices of multi billion dollar companies



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154124)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Orchid bat-shit-crazy market fortuitous meteor

They'll still find a way to blame conservatives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154717)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Bisexual Becky Cruise Ship

This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless population is less than 1% of the city, yet the residents have collectively decided to completely cede the quality of their city to them. Imagine how much more pleasant SF would be if police actually enforced vagrancy laws and the government "encouraged" people to leave with free one way bus tickets out of town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638483)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: Snowy galvanic cuck

They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639653)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Bisexual Becky Cruise Ship

Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own side in a fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639799)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: supple burgundy spot

Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154744)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Racy friendly grandma dingle berry

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638457)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle psychic mental disorder

also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638463)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac coral forum degenerate

It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ever solve poverty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638476)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle psychic mental disorder

or negatively affect wealth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638494)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Racy friendly grandma dingle berry

But see above re poverty rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638559)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: umber angry location

Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638497)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: rough-skinned appetizing juggernaut

lol

more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wannabe libs are only interested in redistribution as a rhetorical tool allowing them to accumulate power by whipping up the masses for votes

yielding little to no benefit for said masses bc an astonishing number of any funds taken for redistribution are lost to corruption and incompetence = feature, not bug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638583)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Flatulent chestnut church

"California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation's welfare recipients."

Haha. Wow. Holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638499)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Pungent rigpig mad cow disease

holy fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638503)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Racy friendly grandma dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638504)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac coral forum degenerate

Moths to a flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638552)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Massive trip ticket booth indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638598)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: rough-skinned appetizing juggernaut

titchwhs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638604)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: chest-beating splenetic twinkling uncleanness

It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go where it’s warm year round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638736)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Bisexual Becky Cruise Ship

And they also go where the benefits are.

That's why a city or even a state can't fix homelessness-- even if they did, then new homeless would stream in.

It would be totally worth it for the federal government to build massive complexes where the land is cheap and, essentially, institutionalize the mentally ill, incarcerate the truly criminal, and just give cash and a place to get back on their feet to people who are truly just down on their luck. But between conservative unwillingness to spend money and shitlibs treating the homeless as a class above the law, this isn't anywhere close to happening. So here we sit, surrendering the quality of our cities for no good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638762)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Mind-boggling startled base

it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638780)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: rough-skinned appetizing juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639147)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Shivering Nursing Home



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: cerebral cobalt coldplay fan



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: insanely creepy voyeur



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Infuriating Scarlet Dilemma Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638777)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: chest-beating splenetic twinkling uncleanness

i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT worse by limiting it to just SF and LA.

Like they combined have like 2% of the country's population and like 25% of the homeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638874)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Exhilarant Bat Shit Crazy Library Affirmative Action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639672)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Comical Meetinghouse

receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vote dem. odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639164)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: Mind-boggling startled base

truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639728)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Comical Meetinghouse

Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639741)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Honey-headed Shrine

Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639174)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Bisexual Becky Cruise Ship

Did you even read the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639294)