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babe.net doubles down on Aziz Ansari outing

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/15/media/aziz-ansari-babe-edito...
haunting prole
  01/16/18
They may have jumped the shark here and could face backlash ...
Sinister Thriller Messiness
  01/16/18
huh? when u start with no market share u can only improve ...
marvelous outnumbered ceo halford
  01/16/18
I agree 100% that this is a W for the website. I just thi...
Sinister Thriller Messiness
  01/16/18
thats whats so great about it
lake soul-stirring stage
  01/16/18
Ansari was aggressive on that date. He is a public figure th...
bateful dysfunction
  01/16/18
he rammed his hindu fingers down her throat. typical hindu. ...
Wild genital piercing
  01/16/18
fuck off racist. this is newsworthy not because he is hindu,...
bateful dysfunction
  01/16/18
he looks hindu as fuck, you fucking charlatan.
Galvanic whorehouse
  01/16/18
"Aziz Ansari was born in Columbia, South Carolina, to a...
bateful dysfunction
  01/16/18
tons of dirty hindu turdkins in columbia, believe me. you're...
Galvanic whorehouse
  01/16/18
im not low iq, my iq is like 115 or so, and im not pencil di...
Wild genital piercing
  01/16/18
this is stupid. but if they get ethicspwned and other journa...
Impressive arousing antidepressant drug toaster
  01/16/18
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fragrant location
  01/17/18
didn't seem aggressive. seems like she was a disgusting...
Pale Mother Resort
  01/16/18
If you're a male feminist, you shouldn't be shoving women's ...
bateful dysfunction
  01/16/18
he did take it slow. she wouldn't suck his dick immediately ...
Impressive arousing antidepressant drug toaster
  01/16/18
oh her legs were broken. maybe she shouldn't have given tomm...
Galvanic whorehouse
  01/16/18
Moral of the story: don't be a male feminist.
lake soul-stirring stage
  01/16/18
you misspelled "midget turdskin"
Galvanic whorehouse
  01/16/18
I don't think this would have happened if Ansari's entire sc...
lake soul-stirring stage
  01/16/18
hmmm i see
Galvanic whorehouse
  01/16/18
crrrr. the day Trudeau gets taken down, i will throw a party...
bateful dysfunction
  01/16/18
she was a crazy whore who was naked for most of her #theresi...
Pale Mother Resort
  01/16/18
[john locke]
Galvanic whorehouse
  01/16/18
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Mischievous karate theater
  01/16/18
yeah if it happened the way she says then he prob should get...
Spruce mad cow disease space
  01/16/18
Rupert Murdoch's News Corp was the lead investor when The Ta...
appetizing office queen of the night
  01/16/18
cr let's dispel with this notion.
tan fantasy-prone step-uncle's house community account
  01/16/18
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cocky roommate knife
  01/16/18
That made me LOL.
big-titted gaming laptop indian lodge
  01/16/18
Feminist writer Jessica Valenti made a similar point on Mond...
Ruddy house ape
  01/16/18
oh good.
fragrant location
  01/17/18
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low-t internet-worthy french chef
  01/16/18
"Babe's reporters "want to represent these young w...
Know-it-all Duck-like Theatre Multi-billionaire
  01/16/18
Could aziz sue a la hulk hogan?
Very Tactful Partner Box Office
  01/16/18
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low-t internet-worthy french chef
  01/17/18
are we making excuses for rapists now?
blathering people who are hurt
  01/17/18
"It did not send you to the police." Is this th...
mahogany lay
  01/17/18
Shitlibs have already had to deal with House of Cards being ...
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Date: January 16th, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: haunting prole

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/15/media/aziz-ansari-babe-editor-interview/index.html

Amid all the debate over an anonymous woman's account of a sexual encounter with Aziz Ansari, the editors at Babe.net who published the story have remained quiet.

The site was not well known before the Ansari story -- but it is getting a lot of attention now, much of it critical and even dismissive.

Joshi Herrmann, editor-in-chief of Babe's parent company Tab Media, says the editors have zero regrets. "We would publish this again tomorrow," he told CNNMoney on Monday.

"It's newsworthy because of who he is and what he has said in his standup, what he has written in his book, what he has proclaimed on late night TV," Herrmann said. "Her account is pointing out a striking tension between those things and the way she says he treated her in private."

The 23-year-old woman, named "Grace" in the story, was granted anonymity by Babe. CNN does not know her identity.

In the story, she recounted an uncomfortable date with the 34-year-old Ansari, star of Netflix's "Master of None." She said she was repeatedly pressured to have sex and ultimately "felt violated" by his behavior. She said she had oral sex with Ansari, but not intercourse.

Afterward, "I was debating if this was an awkward sexual experience or sexual assault," and she concluded that it was assault, she told Babe.

Ansari, for his part, said in a statement that the sexual activity was "completely consensual." He confirmed that he texted with "Grace" after the date.

"It was true that everything did seem okay to me, so when I heard that it was not the case for her, I was surprised and concerned," he said. In the texts reviewed by Babe, he wrote to her, "Clearly, I misread things in the moment and I'm truly sorry."

When the story came out on Saturday, both the anonymous woman and the web site came under criticism.

HLN TV host Ashleigh Banfield read an open letter she wrote to the woman on her show Monday night.

"By your own clear description, this wasn't a rape, nor was it a sexual assault. Your sexual encounter was 'unpleasant' at best," Banfield said. "It did not send you to the police. It did not affect your workplace, or your ability to get a job. So what exactly is your beef? That you had a bad date with Aziz Ansari?"

Addressing "Grace," Banfield added, "What you have done is appalling. You went to the press with your story of a bad date, and you have potentially destroyed this man's career over it."

Related: Aziz Ansari responds to sexual assault allegation: 'I was surprised and concerned'

The circumstances surrounding the story remain unclear. Herrmann said Babe.net "heard about this story through personal networks, and then had to speak to a lot of different people before we got to the source. Our reporter Katie Way approached her, not the other way round."

He said the woman agreed to speak because she trusted Way -- it may have helped that the reporter and source are both the same age -- and "because of Ansari's appearance at the Golden Globes wearing a Times Up pin."

Way spoke about the case on "CBS This Morning" on Monday and implicitly responded to some of the critiques.

"Just because something is normal, doesn't mean it's OK," Way said. "Just because something happens a lot, doesn't mean it should ever happen."

Feminist writer Jessica Valenti made a similar point on Monday. "Our standard for sexual behavior has to be more than what's legal or illegal -- it needs to be about what's right," Valenti tweeted. "I'm sure we're going to hear lots of stories in the coming months about actions that aren't against the law, or that don't warrant repercussions. That doesn't mean that women weren't hurt, or that these stories aren't worth discussing."

Along those same lines, Herrmann recalled one of his colleagues saying that Babe's reporters "want to represent these young women in the way they should be, not in the way they have been in the past."

Babe and a sister site, The Tab, have office space in Brooklyn's Williamsburg neighborhood. The parent company dates back to 2009, when three Cambridge University students launched a site for their peers. Babe is a two-year-old spinoff of The Tab.

The goal is to create content for college students and twentysomethings. Herrmann said the average age of a Babe writer is 24.

Rupert Murdoch's News Corp was the lead investor when The Tab received $6 million in funding last year.

Herrmann pointed out that Babe has been producing original journalism about sexual misconduct for months, pre-dating the #MeToo movement that has spread around the world.

Related: 2017 was the year of (certain) women's voices

Some columnists have asserted that the Ansari story is a setback for the #MeToo movement, because it takes away from deeply reported accounts of rape and assault.

Sonny Bunch, a conservative contributor to the Washington Post, wrote Monday that "I would suggest there's a reason this story appeared in babe, rather than the New York Times or BuzzFeed or the Los Angeles Times or, yes, The Washington Post."

"One of the reasons is that, however Grace now thinks of the encounter, what happened isn't sexual assault or anything close to it by most legal or common-sense standards. And bad dates — including terrible ones that leave one person feeling humiliated — aren't actually newsworthy, even when they happen to famous people," Bunch wrote.

Herrmann responded: "To borrow his formulation, I would suggest the reason this story appeared in babe was because the source trusted our reporter and thought we would take her seriously and make the end product credible."

"If commentators want to patronize babe because it's a new site or they haven't heard of it or because it's run by a bunch of young women, that's their trip," Herrmann said. "The idea that reporters shouldn't investigate stories that don't involve law enforcement is patently ridiculous."

Herrmann said Babe decided to publish the Ansari account as a reported story -- as opposed to a first-person essay by the woman -- because "we wanted to make it clear that we reported this whole thing out -- that we had read the texts on her phone and friends' phones, spoken to the first people she told the night of the incident and the next day and verified his number."

Herrmann said the web site initially received no reply when it emailed Ansari's representatives for comment before publishing. "Then we texted him direct at the number he used to apologize to Grace, and his reps got in touch," he said. "They didn't send us a statement by our deadline, so we went without one."

To date, he said, 2.5 million people have the read the story so far -- a record for Babe's web site

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165676)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 12:47 AM
Author: Sinister Thriller Messiness

They may have jumped the shark here and could face backlash no? Get the duck out of here with this slander lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165690)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 12:50 AM
Author: marvelous outnumbered ceo halford

huh? when u start with no market share u can only improve

they won, why u talk like this libbie?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165710)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 12:53 AM
Author: Sinister Thriller Messiness

I agree 100% that this is a W for the website.

I just think the general public’s basic sense of fairness might be put off by this one sided retarded expose where a chick sucks a guys cock then later decides it was assault lmao. This reads like men’s rights satire aimed at doing just that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165723)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:06 AM
Author: lake soul-stirring stage

thats whats so great about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165801)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 12:48 AM
Author: bateful dysfunction

Ansari was aggressive on that date. He is a public figure that claims to be all lib and feminist. This was newsworthy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165696)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 12:55 AM
Author: Wild genital piercing

he rammed his hindu fingers down her throat. typical hindu.

they are sexual deviants and like PP wont hesitate to put a metal pipe up a womans butt they just met 30 minutes ago on a date.

and he gets a pass by the entire mainstream media? wtf is going on here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165737)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 12:58 AM
Author: bateful dysfunction

fuck off racist. this is newsworthy not because he is hindu, which actually he is not. goddamn you low-iq pencil dick. you are shit because you shit. even without any minorities, you still aren't getting laid. little shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165751)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: Galvanic whorehouse

he looks hindu as fuck, you fucking charlatan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165767)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:01 AM
Author: bateful dysfunction

"Aziz Ansari was born in Columbia, South Carolina, to a Tamil Muslim family from Tamil Nadu, India"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aziz_Ansari#Early_life

Do not again respond to my posts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165771)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:02 AM
Author: Galvanic whorehouse

tons of dirty hindu turdkins in columbia, believe me. you're finished here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165777)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:27 AM
Author: Wild genital piercing

im not low iq, my iq is like 115 or so, and im not pencil dick, its thin but not literally like a pencil, you maggot. this is libel and i will sue you!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165923)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 12:56 AM
Author: Impressive arousing antidepressant drug toaster

this is stupid. but if they get ethicspwned and other journalistic outlets don't, lol just lol at the collective american pravda.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165739)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: fragrant location



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: Pale Mother Resort

didn't seem aggressive.

seems like she was a disgusting slut who made it very clear to him--while she was on a date with another man--that she would do anything to be his stupid little fuckdoll because he's a star and when youre a star "grace" can be picked up cheaper and faster than a gas station loosie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165766)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:05 AM
Author: bateful dysfunction

If you're a male feminist, you shouldn't be shoving women's faces on your crotch after they have explicitly said they want to take it slow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165794)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:06 AM
Author: Impressive arousing antidepressant drug toaster

he did take it slow. she wouldn't suck his dick immediately so he waited for a few minutes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165798)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:06 AM
Author: Galvanic whorehouse

oh her legs were broken. maybe she shouldn't have given tommy turdskin a home visit at 2am.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165800)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:07 AM
Author: lake soul-stirring stage

Moral of the story: don't be a male feminist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165810)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:07 AM
Author: Galvanic whorehouse

you misspelled "midget turdskin"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165814)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:10 AM
Author: lake soul-stirring stage

I don't think this would have happened if Ansari's entire schtick was "I'm a skeevy turdskin! Open bobs LMAO!" instead of "It's hard being a 5'6" indian trying to make it in showbiz--the only roles are for convince store cashiers and cabbies! Also, women have it pretty tough too, am I right?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165830)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: Galvanic whorehouse

hmmm i see

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165839)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:07 AM
Author: bateful dysfunction

crrrr. the day Trudeau gets taken down, i will throw a party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165815)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:09 AM
Author: Pale Mother Resort

she was a crazy whore who was naked for most of her #theresistance against BMC

shoving things in her mouth so you don't have to listen to any more of her retarded coke whore, sloppy drunk rambling sounds like precisely the most appropriate thing to do at that point in time



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165823)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:09 AM
Author: Galvanic whorehouse

[john locke]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165826)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 5:26 AM
Author: Mischievous karate theater



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:06 AM
Author: Spruce mad cow disease space

yeah if it happened the way she says then he prob should get called out because he actively promotes himself as a feminist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165804)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:14 AM
Author: appetizing office queen of the night

Rupert Murdoch's News Corp was the lead investor when The Tab received $6 million in funding last year.

it's almost like the power$$$ at be are manufacturing "news" to generate "controversy" and click$$$. murdoch knew exactly what he was doing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165862)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: tan fantasy-prone step-uncle's house community account

cr let's dispel with this notion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35165933)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 4:18 AM
Author: cocky roommate knife



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Date: January 16th, 2018 2:12 AM
Author: big-titted gaming laptop indian lodge

That made me LOL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35166036)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 3:42 AM
Author: Ruddy house ape

Feminist writer Jessica Valenti made a similar point on Monday. "Our standard for sexual behavior has to be more than what's legal or illegal -- it needs to be about what's right," Valenti tweeted. "I'm sure we're going to hear lots of stories in the coming months about actions that aren't against the law, or that don't warrant repercussions. That doesn't mean that women weren't hurt, or that these stories aren't worth discussing."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35166145)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: fragrant location

oh good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35175421)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: low-t internet-worthy french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35171438)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Know-it-all Duck-like Theatre Multi-billionaire

"Babe's reporters "want to represent these young women in the way they should be, not in the way they have been in the past.""

translation: we're going to make a fuckin mint when lots of jane does start coming to us with stories about how famous doods are bad lays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35171876)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:19 PM
Author: Very Tactful Partner Box Office

Could aziz sue a la hulk hogan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35171936)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: low-t internet-worthy french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35175266)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: blathering people who are hurt

are we making excuses for rapists now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35175279)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 11:43 AM
Author: mahogany lay

"It did not send you to the police."

Is this the standard for libs now? Trump is okay now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35175443)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: disrespectful masturbator

Shitlibs have already had to deal with House of Cards being cancelled, they DRAW THE LINE at Master of None

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861013&forum_id=2#35175501)