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How was "DACA" even legal to BEGIN with?

how can an executive order just flat-out contravene a bunch ...
Lilac Thriller Orchestra Pit
  01/16/18
basic separation of powers, bro congress makes laws presid...
anal voyeur property
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Slate Nursing Home
  01/16/18
Did you not think that magic negroes had magical powers?
twisted brunch
  01/16/18
but seriously, it seems unlawful. and if that's the case, t...
Lilac Thriller Orchestra Pit
  01/16/18
Disparate impact Detrimental reliance Families Feelings ...
twisted brunch
  01/16/18
lawyers=scum
umber deer antler faggot firefighter
  01/16/18
cr gas chambers now
translucent 180 private investor pozpig
  01/16/18
i always thought detrimental reliance was the "stronges...
sooty outnumbered den roommate
  01/16/18
Hell no, that's not a legal argument.
glittery indian lodge
  01/17/18
that's not how reliance would even work, though. it would b...
Lilac Thriller Orchestra Pit
  01/17/18
cq
pink state
  01/16/18
i refer you to the words of our founding fathers as written ...
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Overrated lodge kitty cat
  01/16/18
The executive can exercise prosecutorial discretion. ...
lascivious greedy boiling water casino
  01/16/18
Charging an application fee in exchange for prosecutorial di...
provocative selfie
  01/16/18
I personally think the courts should stay out of it either w...
lascivious greedy boiling water casino
  01/16/18
but they're also giving legal status via executive fiat; not...
Overrated lodge kitty cat
  01/16/18
I just looked up "deferred" and "temporary&qu...
twisted brunch
  01/16/18
(Hawaii Judge)
self-absorbed plum rehab
  01/16/18
i thought the power to suspend and dispense died somewhere a...
Light sweet tailpipe location
  01/16/18
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execu...
primrose abode potus
  01/16/18
guy who enjoys first world immigration policies here, sup
Exciting senate
  01/16/18
It likely wasn’t. Janet Napolitano was allegedly not convin...
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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:26 PM
Author: Lilac Thriller Orchestra Pit

how can an executive order just flat-out contravene a bunch of existing federal immigration laws?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172014)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: anal voyeur property

basic separation of powers, bro

congress makes laws

president executes them, meaning he can elect how and when to execute them

congress's remedy for this is impeachment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172317)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: Ultramarine unholy foreskin personal credit line

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172020)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: Overrated lodge kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172023)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: Slate Nursing Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172021)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:29 PM
Author: twisted brunch

Did you not think that magic negroes had magical powers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172036)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:31 PM
Author: Lilac Thriller Orchestra Pit

but seriously, it seems unlawful. and if that's the case, then it is "repealed" automatically, since it would be a legally-invalid order.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172058)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:35 PM
Author: twisted brunch

Disparate impact

Detrimental reliance

Families

Feelings

Nation of immigrants

No take backs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172081)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: umber deer antler faggot firefighter

lawyers=scum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172088)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: translucent 180 private investor pozpig

cr gas chambers now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172105)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: sooty outnumbered den roommate

i always thought detrimental reliance was the "strongest" public policy-type argument to be made. there really needed to be a legal challenge right when it happened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172332)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 9:45 PM
Author: glittery indian lodge

Hell no, that's not a legal argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35180166)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 9:51 PM
Author: Lilac Thriller Orchestra Pit

that's not how reliance would even work, though. it would be converted into something like a "taking" with demands for money compensation. the fact that people relied on an illegal law does not make the law lawful. cops can't "rely" on 4th amendment violations or something and then make those violations legal because they came to rely on their illegal methods.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35180214)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:29 PM
Author: pink state

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172042)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:37 PM
Author: Light sweet tailpipe location

i refer you to the words of our founding fathers as written on the base of the statue of liberty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172096)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:37 PM
Author: Overrated lodge kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172098)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: lascivious greedy boiling water casino

The executive can exercise prosecutorial discretion.

But what do you want, judges to order the Feds to prosecute? So the judicial branch is now mandating prosecutions and hearing the case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172100)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:42 PM
Author: provocative selfie

Charging an application fee in exchange for prosecutorial discretion is called bribery

Also there's no prosecutorial discretion if the Hawaii judges won't let the prosecutors choose 1 out of their 2 options

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172126)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:10 PM
Author: lascivious greedy boiling water casino

I personally think the courts should stay out of it either way--executive function that can change without judicial review including after an election.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172291)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:49 PM
Author: Overrated lodge kitty cat

but they're also giving legal status via executive fiat; not just not prosecuting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172172)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:53 PM
Author: twisted brunch

I just looked up "deferred" and "temporary" in the dictionary and it said "see also permanent".



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172194)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:55 PM
Author: self-absorbed plum rehab

(Hawaii Judge)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172209)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: Light sweet tailpipe location

i thought the power to suspend and dispense died somewhere around 1689

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172266)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:25 PM
Author: primrose abode potus

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Yeah. Failure to faithfully execute is why we have a nation of cucks now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172357)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:57 PM
Author: Exciting senate

guy who enjoys first world immigration policies here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172219)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: wine psychic codepig

It likely wasn’t. Janet Napolitano was allegedly not convinced that President Obama had the authority to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172338)