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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
Mildly autistic goal in life foreskin
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
maroon at-the-ready meetinghouse pervert
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
Cracking cream ticket booth cuckold
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
Salmon Really Tough Guy
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
Indigo forum pistol
  01/17/18
...
Fuchsia lay nowag
  01/17/18
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Slippery Citrine Quadroon
  01/17/18
...
scarlet stirring scourge upon the earth
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
Trip National Dog Poop
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
dark bawdyhouse love of her life
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
spectacular pea-brained hall
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
Passionate buff reading party market
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
Mildly autistic goal in life foreskin
  01/17/18
diversity
Indigo forum pistol
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
Titillating Confused Place Of Business Resort
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
thirsty idiot area
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
Jet aphrodisiac school cafeteria
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
Mildly autistic goal in life foreskin
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
purple sexy coffee pot
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
Jet aphrodisiac school cafeteria
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
Mildly autistic goal in life foreskin
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
Chocolate judgmental doctorate
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
Mildly autistic goal in life foreskin
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
Fantasy-prone magenta haunted graveyard
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
Fantasy-prone magenta haunted graveyard
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
Boyish Cruise Ship Hissy Fit
  01/17/18
??
Fantasy-prone magenta haunted graveyard
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
Boyish Cruise Ship Hissy Fit
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
Crystalline aromatic keepsake machete people who are hurt
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
poppy zippy station
  01/17/18
Link?
Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
Titillating Confused Place Of Business Resort
  01/17/18
Lol
contagious center
  01/17/18
...
rambunctious depressive
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
Boyish Cruise Ship Hissy Fit
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
Charcoal Crackhouse Sandwich
  01/17/18
...
Indigo forum pistol
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
costumed vigorous roommate crotch
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
Hot vibrant corner trump supporter
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
scarlet stirring scourge upon the earth
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
razzle emerald yarmulke halford
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
chartreuse heady set
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
scarlet stirring scourge upon the earth
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Mildly autistic goal in life foreskin

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: maroon at-the-ready meetinghouse pervert

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Cracking cream ticket booth cuckold

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Salmon Really Tough Guy

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Indigo forum pistol

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Fuchsia lay nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Slippery Citrine Quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: scarlet stirring scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Trip National Dog Poop

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: dark bawdyhouse love of her life

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: spectacular pea-brained hall

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Passionate buff reading party market

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Mildly autistic goal in life foreskin

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Indigo forum pistol

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Titillating Confused Place Of Business Resort

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: thirsty idiot area

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Jet aphrodisiac school cafeteria

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Mildly autistic goal in life foreskin

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: purple sexy coffee pot

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Jet aphrodisiac school cafeteria

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Mildly autistic goal in life foreskin

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Chocolate judgmental doctorate

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Mildly autistic goal in life foreskin

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone magenta haunted graveyard

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone magenta haunted graveyard

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Boyish Cruise Ship Hissy Fit

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone magenta haunted graveyard

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Boyish Cruise Ship Hissy Fit

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: Crystalline aromatic keepsake machete people who are hurt

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: poppy zippy station

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internet-worthy background story friendly grandma

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Titillating Confused Place Of Business Resort

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: contagious center

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: rambunctious depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Boyish Cruise Ship Hissy Fit

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: Charcoal Crackhouse Sandwich

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Indigo forum pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: costumed vigorous roommate crotch

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Hot vibrant corner trump supporter

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: scarlet stirring scourge upon the earth

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: razzle emerald yarmulke halford

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: chartreuse heady set

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: scarlet stirring scourge upon the earth

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)