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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
flesh native
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
multi-colored elastic band mental disorder
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
Chocolate Bisexual Coffee Pot
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
Titillating preventive strike
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
bateful foreskin
  01/17/18
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Cracking confused theater stage
  01/17/18
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Odious bearded bawdyhouse
  01/17/18
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Fiercely-loyal Love Of Her Life Range
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
Dashing Ape Lay
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
Adulterous Mediation Double Fault
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
Irate abode tattoo
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
Electric circlehead
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
flesh native
  01/17/18
diversity
bateful foreskin
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
stirring haunting useless brakes school
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
swashbuckling resort
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
bearded brass fat ankles church
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
Obsidian Hairraiser Hunting Ground
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
flesh native
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
opaque deer antler
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
bearded brass fat ankles church
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
Obsidian Hairraiser Hunting Ground
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
bearded brass fat ankles church
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
flesh native
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
bearded brass fat ankles church
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
Trip spot
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
flesh native
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
Slippery Effete Hominid Halford
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
bearded brass fat ankles church
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
Slippery Effete Hominid Halford
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
Swollen aphrodisiac point
  01/17/18
??
Slippery Effete Hominid Halford
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
Swollen aphrodisiac point
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
Mauve lascivious mood set
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
Citrine balding crackhouse
  01/17/18
Link?
bearded brass fat ankles church
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
bearded brass fat ankles church
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
stirring haunting useless brakes school
  01/17/18
Lol
Big awkward sandwich
  01/17/18
...
High-end plaza gunner
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
Swollen aphrodisiac point
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
Diverse regret office
  01/17/18
...
bateful foreskin
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
Impertinent New Version Karate
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
Avocado sneaky criminal
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
Fiercely-loyal Love Of Her Life Range
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
exciting crystalline yarmulke sanctuary
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
Submissive step-uncle's house personal credit line
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
Fiercely-loyal Love Of Her Life Range
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: flesh native

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: multi-colored elastic band mental disorder

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Chocolate Bisexual Coffee Pot

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Titillating preventive strike

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: bateful foreskin

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Cracking confused theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Odious bearded bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Love Of Her Life Range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Dashing Ape Lay

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Adulterous Mediation Double Fault

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Irate abode tattoo

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Electric circlehead

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: flesh native

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: bateful foreskin

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: stirring haunting useless brakes school

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: swashbuckling resort

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: bearded brass fat ankles church

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Obsidian Hairraiser Hunting Ground

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: flesh native

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: opaque deer antler

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: bearded brass fat ankles church

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Obsidian Hairraiser Hunting Ground

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: bearded brass fat ankles church

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: flesh native

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: bearded brass fat ankles church

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Trip spot

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: flesh native

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Slippery Effete Hominid Halford

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: bearded brass fat ankles church

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Slippery Effete Hominid Halford

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Swollen aphrodisiac point

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Slippery Effete Hominid Halford

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Swollen aphrodisiac point

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: Mauve lascivious mood set

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Citrine balding crackhouse

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: bearded brass fat ankles church

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: bearded brass fat ankles church

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: stirring haunting useless brakes school

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: Big awkward sandwich

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: High-end plaza gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Swollen aphrodisiac point

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: Diverse regret office

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: bateful foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Impertinent New Version Karate

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Avocado sneaky criminal

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Love Of Her Life Range

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: exciting crystalline yarmulke sanctuary

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Submissive step-uncle's house personal credit line

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Love Of Her Life Range

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)