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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
dashing aquamarine stage
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
at-the-ready razzmatazz legal warrant hissy fit
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
french dull step-uncle's house
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
Seedy public bath sound barrier
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
sick shimmering location volcanic crater
  01/17/18
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kink-friendly menage
  01/17/18
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very tactful base giraffe
  01/17/18
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ocher titillating hominid institution
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
effete aggressive corn cake
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
emerald sandwich theatre
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
Razzle olive corner
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
brilliant tanning salon fortuitous meteor
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
dashing aquamarine stage
  01/17/18
diversity
sick shimmering location volcanic crater
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
angry deer antler
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
high-end offensive boistinker stage
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
twisted address
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
clear round eye
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
dashing aquamarine stage
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
garnet sneaky criminal
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
twisted address
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
clear round eye
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
twisted address
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
dashing aquamarine stage
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
twisted address
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
Vermilion principal's office
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
dashing aquamarine stage
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
Bright parlor kitty cat
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
twisted address
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
Bright parlor kitty cat
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
Rambunctious International Law Enforcement Agency Gunner
  01/17/18
??
Bright parlor kitty cat
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
Rambunctious International Law Enforcement Agency Gunner
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
cerise curious point
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
Sepia adventurous temple
  01/17/18
Link?
twisted address
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
twisted address
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
angry deer antler
  01/17/18
Lol
Violent Coral Set
  01/17/18
...
Black nursing home ceo
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
Rambunctious International Law Enforcement Agency Gunner
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
abusive center
  01/17/18
...
sick shimmering location volcanic crater
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
Lascivious hyperventilating doctorate
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
Irradiated cuckoldry elastic band
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
ocher titillating hominid institution
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
Abnormal Bat-shit-crazy Property Cuck
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
harsh home halford
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
ocher titillating hominid institution
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: dashing aquamarine stage

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: at-the-ready razzmatazz legal warrant hissy fit

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: french dull step-uncle's house

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Seedy public bath sound barrier

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: sick shimmering location volcanic crater

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: kink-friendly menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: very tactful base giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: ocher titillating hominid institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: effete aggressive corn cake

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: emerald sandwich theatre

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Razzle olive corner

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: brilliant tanning salon fortuitous meteor

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: dashing aquamarine stage

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: sick shimmering location volcanic crater

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: angry deer antler

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: high-end offensive boistinker stage

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: twisted address

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: clear round eye

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: dashing aquamarine stage

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: garnet sneaky criminal

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: twisted address

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: clear round eye

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: twisted address

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: dashing aquamarine stage

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: twisted address

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Vermilion principal's office

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: dashing aquamarine stage

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Bright parlor kitty cat

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: twisted address

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Bright parlor kitty cat

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Rambunctious International Law Enforcement Agency Gunner

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Bright parlor kitty cat

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Rambunctious International Law Enforcement Agency Gunner

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: cerise curious point

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Sepia adventurous temple

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: twisted address

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: twisted address

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: angry deer antler

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: Violent Coral Set

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: Black nursing home ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Rambunctious International Law Enforcement Agency Gunner

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: abusive center

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: sick shimmering location volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Lascivious hyperventilating doctorate

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Irradiated cuckoldry elastic band

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: ocher titillating hominid institution

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Abnormal Bat-shit-crazy Property Cuck

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: harsh home halford

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: ocher titillating hominid institution

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)