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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
razzle-dazzle state
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
sinister tanning salon striped hyena
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
soul-stirring deranged philosopher-king dopamine
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
Dashing cream alpha
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
Spectacular purple liquid oxygen toilet seat
  01/17/18
...
beady-eyed house corn cake
  01/17/18
...
vigorous sandwich wagecucks
  01/17/18
...
slap-happy lavender abode
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
amber goal in life senate
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
Lascivious Cowardly Kitty Deer Antler
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
Hateful gunner
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
plum cerebral indian lodge
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
razzle-dazzle state
  01/17/18
diversity
Spectacular purple liquid oxygen toilet seat
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
sapphire crackhouse
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
Out-of-control Circlehead Really Tough Guy
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
Cerise heady whorehouse chad
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
Slate arrogant voyeur
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
razzle-dazzle state
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
talented sadistic national ladyboy
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
Cerise heady whorehouse chad
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
Slate arrogant voyeur
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
Cerise heady whorehouse chad
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
razzle-dazzle state
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
Cerise heady whorehouse chad
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
Maniacal Effete Garrison
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
razzle-dazzle state
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
Impertinent marvelous digit ratio spot
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
Cerise heady whorehouse chad
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
Impertinent marvelous digit ratio spot
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
alcoholic useless brakes locale
  01/17/18
??
Impertinent marvelous digit ratio spot
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
alcoholic useless brakes locale
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
startled range
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
Multi-colored Outnumbered Legend
  01/17/18
Link?
Cerise heady whorehouse chad
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
Cerise heady whorehouse chad
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
sapphire crackhouse
  01/17/18
Lol
Apoplectic mediation elastic band
  01/17/18
...
Aqua friendly grandma
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
alcoholic useless brakes locale
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
bat shit crazy hairraiser newt
  01/17/18
...
Spectacular purple liquid oxygen toilet seat
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
grizzly exhilarant ape
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
Hot space background story
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
slap-happy lavender abode
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
hairless theater
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
onyx old irish cottage
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
slap-happy lavender abode
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle state

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: sinister tanning salon striped hyena

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: soul-stirring deranged philosopher-king dopamine

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Dashing cream alpha

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Spectacular purple liquid oxygen toilet seat

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: beady-eyed house corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: vigorous sandwich wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: slap-happy lavender abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: amber goal in life senate

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Lascivious Cowardly Kitty Deer Antler

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Hateful gunner

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: plum cerebral indian lodge

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle state

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Spectacular purple liquid oxygen toilet seat

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: sapphire crackhouse

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Out-of-control Circlehead Really Tough Guy

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Cerise heady whorehouse chad

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Slate arrogant voyeur

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle state

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: talented sadistic national ladyboy

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Cerise heady whorehouse chad

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Slate arrogant voyeur

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Cerise heady whorehouse chad

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle state

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: Cerise heady whorehouse chad

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Maniacal Effete Garrison

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle state

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Impertinent marvelous digit ratio spot

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Cerise heady whorehouse chad

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Impertinent marvelous digit ratio spot

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: alcoholic useless brakes locale

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Impertinent marvelous digit ratio spot

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: alcoholic useless brakes locale

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: startled range

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Multi-colored Outnumbered Legend

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Cerise heady whorehouse chad

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Cerise heady whorehouse chad

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: sapphire crackhouse

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: Apoplectic mediation elastic band

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: Aqua friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: alcoholic useless brakes locale

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: bat shit crazy hairraiser newt

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Spectacular purple liquid oxygen toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: grizzly exhilarant ape

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Hot space background story

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: slap-happy lavender abode

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: hairless theater

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: onyx old irish cottage

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: slap-happy lavender abode

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)