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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
Glassy Fortuitous Meteor
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
ocher selfie generalized bond
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
exciting parlor
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
Vermilion Puppy State
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
Fragrant sticky weed whacker electric furnace
  01/17/18
...
Deep charismatic faggotry box office
  01/17/18
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rusted location
  01/17/18
...
bronze irradiated mother associate
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
Swashbuckling maroon jap
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
multi-colored bonkers locus
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
Citrine Spectacular Indirect Expression
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
lake school
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
Glassy Fortuitous Meteor
  01/17/18
diversity
Fragrant sticky weed whacker electric furnace
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
boyish green dingle berry resort
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
Histrionic Den Rigpig
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
Racy heaven
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
ebony domesticated church trust fund
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
Glassy Fortuitous Meteor
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
Stimulating crawly address becky
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
Racy heaven
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
ebony domesticated church trust fund
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
Racy heaven
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
Glassy Fortuitous Meteor
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
Racy heaven
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
Amber Dilemma
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
Glassy Fortuitous Meteor
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
insecure menage messiness
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
Racy heaven
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
insecure menage messiness
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
Hilarious Indian Lodge
  01/17/18
??
insecure menage messiness
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
Hilarious Indian Lodge
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
free-loading toilet seat telephone
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
orange circlehead stock car
  01/17/18
Link?
Racy heaven
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
Racy heaven
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
boyish green dingle berry resort
  01/17/18
Lol
Useless harsh black woman brunch
  01/17/18
...
Impertinent Brethren
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
Hilarious Indian Lodge
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
Beady-eyed thirsty gas station
  01/17/18
...
Fragrant sticky weed whacker electric furnace
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
excitant at-the-ready point
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
Mind-boggling Forum Water Buffalo
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
bronze irradiated mother associate
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
Mildly autistic mad cow disease
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
thriller university half-breed
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
bronze irradiated mother associate
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Glassy Fortuitous Meteor

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: ocher selfie generalized bond

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: exciting parlor

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Vermilion Puppy State

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Fragrant sticky weed whacker electric furnace

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Deep charismatic faggotry box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: rusted location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: bronze irradiated mother associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Swashbuckling maroon jap

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: multi-colored bonkers locus

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Citrine Spectacular Indirect Expression

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: lake school

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Glassy Fortuitous Meteor

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Fragrant sticky weed whacker electric furnace

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: boyish green dingle berry resort

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Histrionic Den Rigpig

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Racy heaven

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: ebony domesticated church trust fund

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Glassy Fortuitous Meteor

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Stimulating crawly address becky

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Racy heaven

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: ebony domesticated church trust fund

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Racy heaven

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Glassy Fortuitous Meteor

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: Racy heaven

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Amber Dilemma

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Glassy Fortuitous Meteor

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: insecure menage messiness

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Racy heaven

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: insecure menage messiness

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Hilarious Indian Lodge

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: insecure menage messiness

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Hilarious Indian Lodge

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: free-loading toilet seat telephone

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: orange circlehead stock car

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Racy heaven

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Racy heaven

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: boyish green dingle berry resort

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: Useless harsh black woman brunch

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: Impertinent Brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Hilarious Indian Lodge

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: Beady-eyed thirsty gas station

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Fragrant sticky weed whacker electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: excitant at-the-ready point

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Forum Water Buffalo

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: bronze irradiated mother associate

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Mildly autistic mad cow disease

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: thriller university half-breed

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: bronze irradiated mother associate

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)