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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
Boyish Dog Poop Fanboi
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
demanding racy home
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
blathering windowlicker dopamine
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
Mewling Carnelian Mood
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
Henna Locale
  01/17/18
...
180 Garnet House
  01/17/18
...
Sadistic brethren
  01/17/18
...
arousing range
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
Thriller Heaven Fortuitous Meteor
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
talented corner foreskin
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
copper passionate theatre wrinkle
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
laughsome frum faggotry
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
Boyish Dog Poop Fanboi
  01/17/18
diversity
Henna Locale
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
Histrionic box office
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
Cocky halford
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
Provocative Black Location Depressive
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
clear scourge upon the earth
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
Boyish Dog Poop Fanboi
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
exhilarant business firm
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
Provocative Black Location Depressive
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
clear scourge upon the earth
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
Provocative Black Location Depressive
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
Boyish Dog Poop Fanboi
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
Provocative Black Location Depressive
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
vibrant old irish cottage stage
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
Boyish Dog Poop Fanboi
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
Metal judgmental dilemma
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
Provocative Black Location Depressive
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
Metal judgmental dilemma
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
navy fear-inspiring degenerate step-uncle's house
  01/17/18
??
Metal judgmental dilemma
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
navy fear-inspiring degenerate step-uncle's house
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
Cracking Stag Film
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
red fragrant whorehouse giraffe
  01/17/18
Link?
Provocative Black Location Depressive
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
Provocative Black Location Depressive
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
Histrionic box office
  01/17/18
Lol
Aphrodisiac sooty piazza round eye
  01/17/18
...
sapphire knife affirmative action
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
navy fear-inspiring degenerate step-uncle's house
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
soul-stirring chartreuse church building
  01/17/18
...
Henna Locale
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
canary office
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
disturbing lodge preventive strike
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
arousing range
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
dun kitchen
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
Aromatic lay
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
arousing range
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Boyish Dog Poop Fanboi

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: demanding racy home

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: blathering windowlicker dopamine

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Mewling Carnelian Mood

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Henna Locale

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: 180 Garnet House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Sadistic brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: arousing range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Thriller Heaven Fortuitous Meteor

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: talented corner foreskin

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: copper passionate theatre wrinkle

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: laughsome frum faggotry

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Boyish Dog Poop Fanboi

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Henna Locale

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Histrionic box office

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Cocky halford

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Provocative Black Location Depressive

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: clear scourge upon the earth

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Boyish Dog Poop Fanboi

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: exhilarant business firm

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Provocative Black Location Depressive

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: clear scourge upon the earth

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Provocative Black Location Depressive

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Boyish Dog Poop Fanboi

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: Provocative Black Location Depressive

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: vibrant old irish cottage stage

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Boyish Dog Poop Fanboi

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Metal judgmental dilemma

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Provocative Black Location Depressive

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Metal judgmental dilemma

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: navy fear-inspiring degenerate step-uncle's house

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Metal judgmental dilemma

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: navy fear-inspiring degenerate step-uncle's house

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: Cracking Stag Film

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: red fragrant whorehouse giraffe

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Provocative Black Location Depressive

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Provocative Black Location Depressive

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Histrionic box office

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac sooty piazza round eye

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: sapphire knife affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: navy fear-inspiring degenerate step-uncle's house

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: soul-stirring chartreuse church building

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Henna Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: canary office

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: disturbing lodge preventive strike

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: arousing range

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: dun kitchen

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Aromatic lay

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: arousing range

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)