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is post-war SoCal the goat place/time to live?

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sadistic abode
  01/17/18
almost definitely
Chartreuse Site
  01/17/18
Hard to argue against.
Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Trailer Park
  01/17/18
yes. other paradises were for a rich elite; socal seemed to ...
Vermilion multi-billionaire
  01/17/18
tear falls down my cheek...
sadistic abode
  01/17/18
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bonkers step-uncle's house
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Chartreuse Site
  01/17/18
"California’s children, swarming on all those new playg...
talented bipolar nursing home regret
  01/17/18
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mustard laughsome area
  01/17/18
Yes, without question
bonkers step-uncle's house
  01/17/18
(guy who's never had a son die in a game of chicken)
Dark brethren hell
  01/17/18
(Marty McFly, sr.)
citrine personal credit line market
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: sadistic abode



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Date: January 17th, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: Chartreuse Site

almost definitely

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Date: January 17th, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Trailer Park

Hard to argue against.

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Date: January 17th, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Vermilion multi-billionaire

yes. other paradises were for a rich elite; socal seemed to be unique in the fact that it was for the average man

Date: December 27th, 2017 1:08 PM

Author: Thunder Collins

The contrast of this description of California with the shit hole that I live in is stark. The state went from being paradise on Earth for the average man to some sort of proto American Brazil with gated communities protecting the Chinese from the Mexicans.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/07/california-dreamers/307484/

It was a magnificent run. From the end of the Second World War to the mid-1960s, California consolidated its position as an economic and technological colossus and emerged as the country’s dominant political, social, and cultural trendsetter. … In 1959, wages paid in Los Angeles’s working-class and solidly middle-class San Fernando Valley alone were higher than the total wages of 18 states.

It was a sweet, vivacious time: California’s children, swarming on all those new playgrounds, seemed healthier, happier, taller, and — thanks to that brilliantly clean sunshine — were blonder and more tan than kids in the rest of the country. For better and mostly for worse, it’s a time irretrievably lost. …

Starr consistently returns to his leitmotif: the California dream. By this he means something quite specific — and prosaic. California, as he’s argued in earlier volumes, promised “the highest possible life for the middle classes.” It wasn’t a paradise for world-beaters; rather, it offered “a better place for ordinary people.” That place always meant “an improved and more affordable domestic life”: a small but stylish and airy house marked by a fluidity of indoor and outdoor space … and a lush backyard — the stage, that is, for “family life in a sunny climate.” It also meant some public goods: decent roads, plentiful facilities for outdoor recreation, and the libraries and schools that helped produce the Los Angeles “common man” who, as that jaundiced easterner James M. Cain described him in 1933,” addresses you in easy grammar, completes his sentences, shows familiarity with good manners, and in addition gives you a pleasant smile.”

Until the Second World War, California had proffered this Good Life only to people already in the middle class — the small proprietors, farmers, and professionals, largely transplanted midwesterners … But the war and the decades-long boom that followed extended the California dream to a previously unimaginable number of Americans of modest means. Here Starr records how that dream possessed the national imagination … and how the Golden State — fleetingly, as it turns out — accomodated Americans’ “conviction that California was the best place in the nation to seek and attain a better life.” …

This dolce vita was, as Starr makes clear, a democratic one: the ranch houses with their sliding glass doors and orange trees in the backyard might have been more sprawling in La Canada and Orinda than they were in the working-class suburbs of Lakewood and Hayward, but family and social life in nearly all of them centered on the patio, the barbecue, and the swimming pool. The beaches were publicly owned and hence available to all — as were such glorious parks as Yosemite, Chico’s Bidwell, the East Bay’s Tilden, and San Diego’s Balboa. Golf and tennis, year-round California pursuits, had once been limited to the upper class, but thanks to proliferating publicly supported courses and courts (thousands of public tennis courts had already been built in L.A. in the 1930s), they became fully middle-class. This shared outdoor-oriented, informal California way of life democratized — some would say homogenized — a society made up of people of varying attainments and income levels. These people were overwhelmingly white and native-born, and their common culture revolved around nurturing and (publicly educating) their children. Until the 1980s, a California preppy was all but oxymoronic. True, the comprehensive high schools had commercial, vocational, and college-prep tracks (good grades in the last guaranteed admission to Berkeley or UCLA — times have definitely changed). But, as Starr concludes from his survey of yearbooks and other school records, “there remained a common experience, especially in athletics, and a mutual respect among young people heading in different directions.”

To a Californian today, much of what Starr chronicles is unrecognizable. (Astonishing fact: Ricky Nelson and the character he played in that quintessential idealization of suburbia, The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet, attended Hollywood High, a school that is now 75% Hispanic and that The New York Times accurately described in 2003 as a “typically overcrowded, vandalism-prone urban campuse.”) Granted, a version of the California Good Life can still be had — by those Starr calls the “fiercely competitive.” That’s just the heartbreak: most of us are merely ordinary. For nearly a century, California offered ordinary people better lives than they could lead perhaps anywhere else in the world. Today, reflecting our intensely stratified, increasingly mobile society, California affords the Good Life only to the most gifted and ambitious, regardless of their background. That’s a deeply undemocratic betrayal of California’s dream …

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018449)

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Date: January 17th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: sadistic abode

tear falls down my cheek...

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Date: January 17th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: bonkers step-uncle's house



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Date: January 17th, 2018 6:09 PM
Author: Chartreuse Site



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Date: January 17th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: talented bipolar nursing home regret

"California’s children, swarming on all those new playgrounds, seemed healthier, happier, taller, and — thanks to that brilliantly clean sunshine — were blonder and more tan than kids in the rest of the country."

oh vey, we must do something about this, bring in the schwarze

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3863049&forum_id=2#35178684)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: mustard laughsome area



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Date: January 17th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: bonkers step-uncle's house

Yes, without question

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Date: January 17th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: Dark brethren hell

(guy who's never had a son die in a game of chicken)

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Date: January 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: citrine personal credit line market

(Marty McFly, sr.)

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