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full blown war with China starts right now. who wins?

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Sickened Parlour
  01/20/18
US, but both sides hurt a lot
blathering blood rage
  01/20/18
Explain how the US manages to project sufficient power over ...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
from japan and phillipines.
cruel-hearted locus
  01/20/18
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Sickened Parlour
  01/20/18
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blathering blood rage
  01/20/18
What made Japan and the Philippines decide that this week wa...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
they have no choice. half of japan lives here and 90% of phi...
cruel-hearted locus
  01/20/18
Just do be obliterated from existence because of remittance ...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
we have bases all over there and then everyone would post up...
cruel-hearted locus
  01/20/18
LJL, no. If a war was really brewing the US would quickly fi...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
we're using bases currently; this isn't sealed up shit from ...
cruel-hearted locus
  01/20/18
Incirlik isnt "sealed up shit from 20 years beforehand....
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
"utter annihilation" Right. Because that happen...
cordovan passionate kitty cat senate
  01/20/18
Russians aren't "obliterating" anyone. Be serious....
cordovan passionate kitty cat senate
  01/20/18
lol shut the fuck up faggot literally no one gives a fuck ab...
gold dysfunction
  01/21/18
without resorting to copy pasting from Janes Defense Weekly,...
blathering blood rage
  01/20/18
DF-41 the 3 American carrier battle groups the US is actuall...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
Power is protected on the tip of ICBMs which pulverize china...
trip lime jewess
  01/21/18
US is not opening the war with 50 nuclear strikes
misanthropic henna affirmative action
  01/21/18
china hasn't fought a war since the nips blew their assholes...
cruel-hearted locus
  01/20/18
And? The entire Chinese army is built from floor to ceiling ...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
Why, exactly? So China can slowly take over all of eastern R...
cordovan passionate kitty cat senate
  01/20/18
Eastern Russia is an impenetrable swamp where tanks sink lik...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
They are taking it over by moving in the population anyway, ...
cordovan passionate kitty cat senate
  01/20/18
They are not because its impenetrable and any humans making ...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
the United States has the most battle-tested and combat-read...
Orange address
  01/20/18
Yep, and it just managed to lose every war since Korea.
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
Not "lose" militarily. Dumb wars strategically. O...
cordovan passionate kitty cat senate
  01/20/18
I do believe Putin showed in Syria that the US is not alone ...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
The why is essential, actually. The USSR had a much stronger...
cordovan passionate kitty cat senate
  01/20/18
One traitor named Gorbachev.
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/21/18
The reason matters a lot. You can't seriously think otherwis...
poppy motley love of her life gaping
  01/21/18
the USA is so good at war that it had to play the game on ex...
Orange address
  01/21/18
somehow, cohen benefits
Haunting chad garrison
  01/20/18
lol
indecent charcoal pit
  01/20/18
literally
cruel-hearted locus
  01/20/18
Any discussion here would at best be like WWI generals talki...
appetizing yarmulke cruise ship
  01/20/18
Not seeing a problem. Once you're all dead the Soviets can j...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
before any open conflict breaks out, both China and the US w...
appetizing yarmulke cruise ship
  01/20/18
the chinese rely on our our sats.
cruel-hearted locus
  01/20/18
For what exactly?
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
seeing shit, copying shit, trying to fix shit.
cruel-hearted locus
  01/20/18
None of this is true. Russia, China and the US have wholly i...
cocky dingle berry depressive
  01/20/18
Every non military entity on Earth uses GPS in some capacity
lilac faggot firefighter
  01/21/18
They can cut cable lines, detonate underwater nukes and caus...
Galvanic gas station ape
  01/21/18
And although it wasn't quite full scale total warfare, the c...
Galvanic gas station ape
  01/21/18
How is Russia's birth rate these days? Russia clearly found ...
cordovan passionate kitty cat senate
  01/20/18
No answer.
cordovan passionate kitty cat senate
  01/21/18
Morons ITT ignoring the obvious. The war would go nuclear si...
trip lime jewess
  01/21/18
Yeah surprised how badly all of the other answers are - the ...
Silver church building
  01/21/18
Oh, fortuitous nuclear annihilation.
poppy motley love of her life gaping
  01/21/18
China's second strike capability is enough to deter the USA....
Hairraiser Keepsake Machete Immigrant
  01/21/18
What second strike capability? Mobile icbm launchers? Doubt ...
trip lime jewess
  01/21/18
dependent on how it starts. asking who wins us v. china is l...
Chrome antidepressant drug
  01/21/18
correct
Fishy Police Squad Party Of The First Part
  01/21/18
Why does ARE Reptile always get so giddy in military threads...
crystalline juggernaut
  01/21/18
Literally no one in the Chinese "military" has bee...
indigo contagious center
  01/21/18
One thing is certain, they would try to pee pee in our Coke....
heady yapping partner
  01/21/18


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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: Sickened Parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200564)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:16 PM
Author: blathering blood rage

US, but both sides hurt a lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200573)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

Explain how the US manages to project sufficient power over China to win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200579)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: cruel-hearted locus

from japan and phillipines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200580)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Sickened Parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200581)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: blathering blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200583)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:23 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

What made Japan and the Philippines decide that this week was a good week to stop existing exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200610)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: cruel-hearted locus

they have no choice. half of japan lives here and 90% of phillipines gets checks from family here; hell all the catholic churches there are neighborhood scams funded by dumb/too busy family over here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200668)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

Just do be obliterated from existence because of remittance payments. Yeah, Duterte aint that crazy (and he hates the US) and the Japanese are too chicken shit to even face down N.Korea let alone China.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200698)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:37 PM
Author: cruel-hearted locus

we have bases all over there and then everyone would post up in japan, s korea, and phill, plus austrailia will help. and russia will help because they think they can control or live with americans but nobody in the world would want to mix and live with china if given a choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200711)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:40 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

LJL, no. If a war was really brewing the US would quickly find how worthless most of those bases are just like it did in Turkey when the Turks quickly killed OPs out of Incirlik when they felt like it. Truly useful foreign bases require a promise to massacre the fuck out of the locals if they get in the way.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200739)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: cruel-hearted locus

we're using bases currently; this isn't sealed up shit from 20 years beforehand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200743)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:46 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

Incirlik isnt "sealed up shit from 20 years beforehand." It is the largest US base in the region but when Turkey was pissed off it shut down all US flights into and out of it in about 1 minutes time and this dynamic applies to basically all US foreign bases. Your using them for BS ops and show the flag nonsense. The locals have the capability to shut down those bases and they would if they thought US ops risked their utter annihilation. US bases are not like Soviet bases in Eastern Europe which were built expressly around the idea of murdering the fuck out of the locals if they got in the way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200776)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: cordovan passionate kitty cat senate

"utter annihilation"

Right. Because that happens all the time, countries being annihilated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200828)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:46 PM
Author: cordovan passionate kitty cat senate

Russians aren't "obliterating" anyone. Be serious. Putin is trying to incrementally strengthen his position regionally because NATO probably went too far in the 1990s. That's far different.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200772)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: gold dysfunction

lol shut the fuck up faggot literally no one gives a fuck about your cold war fantasies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201314)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: blathering blood rage

without resorting to copy pasting from Janes Defense Weekly, explain how China does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200582)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

DF-41 the 3 American carrier battle groups the US is actually capable of deploying. War over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200602)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: trip lime jewess

Power is protected on the tip of ICBMs which pulverize china’s biggest 50 cities within 30 minutes. The chinks take out LA and San Fran in the process. war over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200905)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: misanthropic henna affirmative action

US is not opening the war with 50 nuclear strikes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35207011)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:16 PM
Author: cruel-hearted locus

china hasn't fought a war since the nips blew their assholes out in ww2.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200575)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

And? The entire Chinese army is built from floor to ceiling by the Russians who have fought wars a plenty. Read up on Peace Mission 2005. The Chicoms sent troops to Russia for war gaming. The Chicoms were flying their attack helos too high. The Russkies explained to them that they were deploying their entire helicopter force wrong. The Russkies then trained up the entire PLA on air mobile assault over a 2 year period. They did this pretty much across every branch and specialty. Since that time Peace Mission has become a bi-annual tradition and has been augmented with additional now pretty much quarterly exchanges. The Russkies and Chicoms even share a common airspace command center. And they maintain a joint SARSAT constellation. It aint NATO but only because it's more efficient than TTT cash wasting NATO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200598)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: cordovan passionate kitty cat senate

Why, exactly? So China can slowly take over all of eastern Russia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200646)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

Eastern Russia is an impenetrable swamp where tanks sink like stones. Aint no threat of any of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200675)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: cordovan passionate kitty cat senate

They are taking it over by moving in the population anyway, no bullets needed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200700)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:38 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

They are not because its impenetrable and any humans making the crossing die. There is basically zero Chinese migration to Russia except like 50,000-60,000 temp workers in Vladivostok almost none of whom end up staying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200720)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: Orange address

the United States has the most battle-tested and combat-ready military in the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200653)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

Yep, and it just managed to lose every war since Korea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200681)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:39 PM
Author: cordovan passionate kitty cat senate

Not "lose" militarily. Dumb wars strategically. Only the USA can fight half-way around the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200727)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:42 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

I do believe Putin showed in Syria that the US is not alone in being able to fight halfway around the world though in the Russian context with Russia sitting on a dozen time zones there is no point that is actually halfway around the world from holy mother Russia. And the why of your losing is irrelevant to the fact that you keep losing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200748)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:48 PM
Author: cordovan passionate kitty cat senate

The why is essential, actually. The USSR had a much stronger military than western europe during the cold war. Why didn't the USSR come to dominate all of europe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200786)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:00 AM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

One traitor named Gorbachev.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200836)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 3:27 AM
Author: poppy motley love of her life gaping

The reason matters a lot. You can't seriously think otherwise. If you lose because you're restraining yourself for political reasons that don't apply later, you'd be foolish to cite the prior self-imposed loss as predictive of the outcome subsequent war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201427)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:48 AM
Author: Orange address

the USA is so good at war that it had to play the game on expert mode by creating absurd rules of engagement etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201219)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: Haunting chad garrison

somehow, cohen benefits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200597)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: indecent charcoal pit

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200599)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: cruel-hearted locus

literally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200673)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: appetizing yarmulke cruise ship

Any discussion here would at best be like WWI generals talking WWII strategy. There would be no winners in a full scale war between China and the US.

China would shoot down and disable our satellites and we'd do the same to them. We'd mutually knock out each other's power grid and infrastructure through sleeper viruses. China would dump its treasuries and dollar holdings to cause maximum chaos for our markets. Both societies would be plunged into absolute chaos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200623)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:26 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

Not seeing a problem. Once you're all dead the Soviets can just PWN, PWN, PWN.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200632)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:34 PM
Author: appetizing yarmulke cruise ship

before any open conflict breaks out, both China and the US will have fully anticipated what Russia would do as well. Russia would probably align with China and the US would treat them just the same. I'm confident that Russia already has embedded viruses in the US infrastructure operating systems and could shut down our grid if they wanted. We could probably do the same to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200688)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: cruel-hearted locus

the chinese rely on our our sats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200678)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

For what exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200684)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:34 PM
Author: cruel-hearted locus

seeing shit, copying shit, trying to fix shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200695)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:36 PM
Author: cocky dingle berry depressive

None of this is true. Russia, China and the US have wholly independent sat constellations and any Chicom corp renting Yankee sats would see its CEO strung up by the balls. And for that matter even the US is protectionist as all fuck in this area. The US government wont rent your sat if you launched it outside of the US now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200702)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:45 AM
Author: lilac faggot firefighter

Every non military entity on Earth uses GPS in some capacity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201204)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 2:40 AM
Author: Galvanic gas station ape

They can cut cable lines, detonate underwater nukes and cause massive tsunamis, cut off manufacturing exports including some military parts (we could recover with out homegrown manufacture but it wouldn't happen overnight and we'd be hurting for a few years), they have the edge in some areas of cyber warfare, quickly gaining the edge in next gen warfare such as hypersonic missiles that can take out aircraft carriers, etc

There.would.be.no.winners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201331)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 3:15 AM
Author: Galvanic gas station ape

And although it wasn't quite full scale total warfare, the chinese won vs the US in the 2nd half of the Korean War, as well defeat both France and US via their proxy Vietnam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201411)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: cordovan passionate kitty cat senate

How is Russia's birth rate these days? Russia clearly found religion in recent years, which is probably good for more children. Correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200803)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: cordovan passionate kitty cat senate

No answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200904)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: trip lime jewess

Morons ITT ignoring the obvious. The war would go nuclear since the US cannot and would have no desire to get bogged down in a land war versus a “billion man army.” Our nuclear arsenal is an order of magnitude better than the chinks’.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200928)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 2:40 AM
Author: Silver church building

Yeah surprised how badly all of the other answers are - the OP said "full blown war". That said China has more than enough nukes to nuke the US to oblivion as well. Result? Tie with both countries smouldering nuked ruins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201332)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: poppy motley love of her life gaping

Oh, fortuitous nuclear annihilation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35204851)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Hairraiser Keepsake Machete Immigrant

China's second strike capability is enough to deter the USA. Sure, US could wipe China off the map, but China could wipe out 30% of our population and 75% of our GDP.

The more realistic scenario is that the US sinks China's TTT navy and shoots down their TTT airforce. Then US blockades China and shoots cruise missiles are key targets. China's economy would be crippled.

Any US invasion would fail spectacularly, but the USA pwns on neutral territory and uber pwns on the blue water ocean.

If the USA had to invade China, they'd have start starving them out and then wipe them out like rodents. Do shit like wipe out cities rather than fight street by street. I don't see any reason why anyone would do that though. It wouldn't be worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35204875)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: trip lime jewess

What second strike capability? Mobile icbm launchers? Doubt the chinks would be coordinated enough to pull of an effective second strike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35206998)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Chrome antidepressant drug

dependent on how it starts. asking who wins us v. china is like asking "who wins, UK v germanY??". answer depends on who controls european production, and how the US/USSR are feeling.

if a full blown war develops where the primary view of the developed war is that china started it, china loses. china is nowhere close to self-sufficient and if it gets shut off from even a few major trading partners it goes to hell a lot faster than america would in a similar situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200931)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 6:38 AM
Author: Fishy Police Squad Party Of The First Part

correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201627)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:47 AM
Author: crystalline juggernaut

Why does ARE Reptile always get so giddy in military threads? Russia's only aircraft carrier is kept afloat by a tug boat. The US military is the most technologically advanced and well funded in the world by orders of magnitude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201217)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:49 AM
Author: indigo contagious center

Literally no one in the Chinese "military" has been in combat before. Military shit is unreliable to begin with, but at least America is constantly using ours. Chinese shit -- built by the Chinese btw -- has literally never been used. Yeah they have a billion "people" -- 5'4" illiterate bugmen who eat garbage. LOL their "economy" is based on stealing shit and sending plastic baubles to America, they would be in a crippling depression on day one and the politburo would be pulled out of their palaces by the bugmen and cooked into fried rice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201225)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 11:08 PM
Author: heady yapping partner

One thing is certain, they would try to pee pee in our Coke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35207027)