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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:19 PM Author: bateful temple dysfunction :_(
I don’t think it means much, but the Dems didn’t do a good job explaining the shutdown. Plus, the shutdown barely even matters - people visited parks, DC, etc, employees miss a half day of work, stock markets are still up, etc. Plus, most Americans support DACA but it’s simply not top of mind for a majority of Americans, and not top of mind for a big portion of Dem voters. Negotiate a DACA fix in immigration negotiations with Trump regarding the wall and other stuff.
Looks like the shutdown will end today, but Dems messed this one up a bit |
Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Poppy Vengeful Church Building Fortuitous Meteor most Americans don't support DACA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209590) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:20 PM Author: talented locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209596) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Domesticated jade selfie Probably depends how it's phrased
"pollsters" can influence this very easily |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:00 PM Author: Pontificating Brethren Place Of Business You really don't know wtf you are talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209988) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:26 PM Author: Azure personal credit line striped hyena Most do but if push came to shove most supporters don’t give a fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213012) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:27 PM Author: Deranged jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213527) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:57 PM Author: shimmering depressive resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213811) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:21 PM Author: glassy hominid hairy legs They have a bad bargaining position since federal workers vote Dem and reptiles have hostility toward government. So shutting is down is not a bug, but a feature! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209609) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:23 PM Author: claret fighting lay affirmative action agreed, shut down is 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209621) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:24 PM Author: excitant business firm cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209635) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Cordovan hissy fit persian Independents are like "wtf, why are we doing this? So illegals can stay in the country? Seriously?" Everyone understands when Republicans shut it down because we can't borrow forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209650) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:33 PM Author: Pale main people cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209719) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:24 PM Author: Ungodly Unhinged Chapel Bbw i think they did an excellent job explaining how they put illegal aliens ahead of american citizens
odd that wasnt a winner for them
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Ebony Hunting Ground Telephone Schumer literally right now on the Senate floor pleading w the President to "save the Dreamers" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209647) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:26 PM Author: excitant business firm cuck i dont get this at all. i get the STRATEGY behind it, but i don't get putting it "out on Front Street". this is one of those classic "we have to hide our true intentions because NO ONE will accept this" things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209663) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:27 PM Author: electric fear-inspiring native Trump forced their true intentions out in the open.
THAT's why they constantly portray him as Hitler/unhinged. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:29 PM Author: excitant business firm cuck yeah...pretty much. but don't you still have to try and hide? lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209688) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Ungodly Unhinged Chapel Bbw schumer is smart and cynical and probably hates what is going on
but i get the vibe that a large part of the DNC actually believe catlady twitter is 65% of the population, trump won because of a Russian scam, and there is no need to hide this crazy anymore
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:47 PM Author: excitant business firm cuck yeah. they're acting on marching orders. and the leadership is miscalculating huge. i thought 2018 was going to be a blue house because of polling/libmedia. and that only a CALAMITOUS mistake would mess up this putt for them.
well...here it is. lol. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: Cordovan hissy fit persian Right. "This position is unacceptable, Trump is a Nazi and if you support him you're a Nazi too and deserve to be fired."
That's all they have right now. And they're using the media and "activists" to push that narrative. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: charismatic juggernaut locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209648) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Cordovan hissy fit persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209653) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:28 PM Author: galvanic theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209672) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:29 PM Author: Mustard nursing home yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213028) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:28 PM Author: glassy hominid hairy legs @AdamSerwer
Republicans fear their base, and Democrats fear the GOP base, but Democrats do not fear their base at all |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:30 PM Author: glassy hominid hairy legs @JuddLegum
The argument, as I understand it, is that Trump was obstinate and wouldn't negotiate and neither would the Republicans so therefore we are caving
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: excitant business firm cuck lol good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209709) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:32 PM Author: Amethyst private investor legend i'm thinking of a word that starts with the letter L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209714) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: glassy hominid hairy legs @MEPFuller
How this plays out:
-Senate and House vote to reopen govt thru Feb. 8. -Another CR passes (either before or after another shutdown). -Senate passes DACA bill. -House passes its own DACA bill. -Standoff between House and Senate. -Another shutdown until one side caves. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:33 PM Author: bateful temple dysfunction :_(
Shutting down the government over DACA doesn’t make much sense
Illegal immigrants are gonna be harassed until Trump is gone. Focus on things that make him less popular. In the meantime, the country is getting less white regardless of what Trump and Miller do, the demographics will come good for libs |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:34 PM Author: glassy hominid hairy legs "Illegal immigrants are gonna be harassed until Trump is gone. Focus on things that make him less popular." LOL lib instinct is to immediately destroy the country. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Poppy Vengeful Church Building Fortuitous Meteor you make me sick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209788) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:34 PM Author: Azure personal credit line striped hyena (Guy who doesn’t live in a majority minority neighborhood) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213061) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Alcoholic bearded filthpig center Russian Twitter-bots winning! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209739) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:39 PM Author: glassy hominid hairy legs @ComfortablySmug
FACTS:
- Dems got no policy changes for this extension - They could have just done this Friday - Only votes changing from No on Friday to Yes today are Dems - Proves this shutdown is on the Dems |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:41 PM Author: Ebony Hunting Ground Telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209816) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:56 PM Author: talented locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209950) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Ebony Hunting Ground Telephone Durbin stood on the Senate floor a few minutes ago and called DACA the "civil rights issue of our generation."
Didn't they say that about gay marriage? And transgenders? And probably #MeToo? |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:42 PM Author: bateful temple dysfunction :_(
Civil rights are as American of a traditional as capitalsm |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:47 PM Author: Ungodly Unhinged Chapel Bbw civil = civis = citizen.
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:04 PM Author: sapphire range liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210026) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:22 PM Author: salmon market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35212989) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:26 PM Author: Cordovan hissy fit persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213015) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:18 PM Author: glittery misanthropic national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213435) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:56 PM Author: talented locus tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209952) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:59 PM Author: navy queen of the night is this spaceporn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209982) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:01 PM Author: Cordovan hissy fit persian Let's keep it real here. This is a country freakin' founded by slave owners. Yes, it was a country founded on freedoms and liberties for certain classes of people, but it wasn't founded on the concept of unlimited freedom for absolutely everyone. And until now, the concept of absolute freedoms for illegal immigrants would have been seen as totally insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210001) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:29 PM Author: bateful temple dysfunction :_(
Yeah, but we also have a holiday for MLK. There is a pretty strong progressive tradition in the US over centuries, which any 9th grader that took history would know |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:21 PM Author: Cordovan hissy fit persian MLK fought so that blacks wouldn't be disallowed from attending normal schools, buy/rent housing, buy food at a restaurant and even using normal bathrooms/drinking fountains. The stuff he was fighting for was extremely basic and frankly, entirely reasonable. This isn't "well yeah, they're here illegally but they're ENTITLED to stay" sort of stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35212982) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Cordovan hissy fit persian Tcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209935) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:06 PM Author: Wonderful Messiness They didn't win anything but they didn't lose either. Polling showed that most still blamed the GOP for the shutdown, though I'm sure it would have changed had they continued. It was a pointless endeavor. DACA doesn't expire until March and with the injunction in place it might take until the end of the year before the gov't can get their win at the Supreme Court and start deportations of recipients (which they won't do anyway). So it's not pressing enough to get anybody to move on it anytime soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210045) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Sticky theater stage dingle berry so why force a shutdown last friday shithead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210215) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Cordovan hissy fit persian Because they expected the media to push the narrative that it was the GOP's fault and they figured they would come out ahead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210248) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:34 PM Author: charismatic juggernaut locale Reminder: Trump "leaked" the infrastructure bill right after the Shutdown ended as yet another item tacked onto a DACA deal. Trump's right. He does love the DACA "kids". He's gonna make them carry everything he wants on their backs in exchange for allowing them to stay. They'll be his own personal Atlases, but he's the one who shrugs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213066) |
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Date: November 13th, 2020 1:51 PM Author: Irradiated station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#41359195) |