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Workout Bros: Need serious fitness advice

Over the course of 3 months I've gone from 250 to 200 with i...
Maroon outnumbered shrine
  01/22/18
lift weights, do meth all night.
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  01/30/18
Not possible in a natural and sustainable way. Let do wi...
vibrant violent incel
  01/22/18
please recommend an intense beginner program
Maroon outnumbered shrine
  01/22/18
Beginner, do a 5x5.
vibrant violent incel
  01/22/18
can I add some bro elements to this?
Maroon outnumbered shrine
  01/22/18
If your primary goal is aesthetics ignore the mark rippetoe ...
odious shimmering kitty
  01/22/18
please recommend a routine
Maroon outnumbered shrine
  01/22/18
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/hst1.htm reading materia...
odious shimmering kitty
  01/22/18
These necessitate a prerequisite level of strength and size ...
Buff Place Of Business Native
  01/22/18
Are you asking permission to do curls?
indigo tripping gunner
  01/22/18
Lift heavy. 5x5. Get your 1g protein/pound Maintain ~500 c...
Hilarious mauve associate
  01/22/18
Long term this will kill his hormone levels. Only makes sens...
vibrant violent incel
  01/22/18
Well losing 10 pounds isn't exactly a "long term" ...
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  01/22/18
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Buff Place Of Business Native
  01/22/18
u want us to believe you are 190lb shredded? lol faggot.
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  01/22/18
maybe not shredded, but I am 198 rn with some abdominal defi...
Maroon outnumbered shrine
  01/22/18
fasting/time-restricted eating...try to keep all eating&...
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  01/22/18
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vibrant violent incel
  01/22/18
Loling at your moniker any time I see it
Flickering irradiated legend
  01/30/18
CR, although this takes some discipline to produce good resu...
Buff Place Of Business Native
  01/22/18
Intermittent fasting is sooo cr
primrose hell
  01/23/18
no flame: you need to hire a bodybuilding nutritionist to n...
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  01/22/18
if you have money, do this and one of the programs I recomme...
Buff Place Of Business Native
  01/22/18
you have already lost plenty of muscle mass if you lost that...
odious shimmering kitty
  01/22/18
Last paragraph first sentence is totally wrong. This is lik...
primrose hell
  01/23/18
always liked martin berkhan (sp?) From leangains.com for mai...
arousing twisted office ape
  01/22/18
Pretty cr, but I wouldn't run a calorie deficit for the firs...
Buff Place Of Business Native
  01/22/18
does leangains have a proscribed lifting plan tho. Can't rea...
Maroon outnumbered shrine
  01/22/18
looking for the original routine you posted bro
Fragrant Meetinghouse
  11/20/21
Starting strength. 5x5 Olympic lifts.
Chocolate spectacular spot sex offender
  01/22/18
1. Start a program with heavy compound 5x5 lifts, and high v...
Buff Place Of Business Native
  01/22/18
forgive my ignorance, but for routine 2 in your posted plan,...
Maroon outnumbered shrine
  01/22/18
Routine 2 should be done Strength A, Volume A, Strength B, V...
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  01/23/18
Copy. Gonna start this asap as well 60 minutes of LISS on of...
Maroon outnumbered shrine
  01/23/18
No, but it'll be an adjustment because you're gonna be damn ...
Buff Place Of Business Native
  01/23/18
Gonna use your plan but only 3 days per week, MWF. Cardio Tu...
Maroon outnumbered shrine
  01/23/18
one other thing, supplement recommendations?
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  01/23/18
If you want a laundry list, here you go, but as long as you'...
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Thanks. Thoughts on Patrick Arnold's products ur-spray and 7...
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Arnold is certainly a credible chemist; that doesn't preclud...
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  01/23/18
how long to stay on the full body program?
Maroon outnumbered shrine
  01/25/18
brother do you still have the original program you linked ab...
Fragrant Meetinghouse
  11/20/21
for a smaller amount of weight like that, just do a 3-day fa...
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  01/23/18
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  01/23/18
But where to find all this illegal shit?
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  01/23/18
do not use steroids recommended by some pumo with baby nuts ...
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  01/23/18
we’ve had this debate already. you can believe this if it ma...
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  01/23/18
fucking CR.
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  01/23/18
1. Read a book titled “Anabolics” by William Llewelyn (avail...
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Do the gains evaporate after the cycle though?
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  01/23/18
Not all of them. With good post cycle therapy you’ll retain ...
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spin, ratfucks
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  01/30/18
I also recommend a 5x5 heavy lifting AT FIRST, and then once...
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Don't listen to the 5x5 shit. Sounds like you need a month o...
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(185 1rm bencher)
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

Over the course of 3 months I've gone from 250 to 200 with insane dedication to diet and exercise (ie hard cardio with no lifting). I look pretty fucking good right now and have a decent amount of muscle mass from when I used to lift regularly in the past but I still have about 10 pounds of stubborn flab to lose in order to get truly ripped.

I'm lean enough now where continuing with a caloric deficit and just cardio is going to start cutting muscle. I also want to start lifting again for overall aesthetics and to boost my metabolism.

I need a program that lets me continue to lose the last bit of fat and yet lets me build or at least maintain the muscle I have. Give me some advice faggots



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211293)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: doobsian cuckoldry

lift weights, do meth all night.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211300)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: peach gay wizard

how bout fitness cock in your ass

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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: electric institution



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: odious shimmering kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211428)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Adventurous pearly juggernaut hospital



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: Mentally impaired church building



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Avocado Base Skinny Woman



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: aphrodisiac splenetic crackhouse



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 1:30 AM
Author: dead deranged lettuce jap



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: idiotic thriller stag film

sustained lols

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35217272)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: know-it-all stirring den



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: swashbuckling pit



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 7:02 PM
Author: exhilarant khaki lay stock car

eyy

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Date: January 30th, 2018 2:45 AM
Author: Aggressive wagecucks toaster

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35275215)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: vibrant violent incel

Not possible in a natural and sustainable way.

Let do with where at now in terms of BF, and add some muscle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211313)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

please recommend an intense beginner program

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211360)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: vibrant violent incel

Beginner, do a 5x5.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211371)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

can I add some bro elements to this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211388)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: odious shimmering kitty

If your primary goal is aesthetics ignore the mark rippetoe 5x5 strongfat bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211406)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

please recommend a routine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211418)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: odious shimmering kitty

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/hst1.htm

reading material

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/wotw39.htm

workout suggestions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211454)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:33 PM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

These necessitate a prerequisite level of strength and size to be effective; better for a beginner to integrate a good bit of heavy work first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35213591)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: indigo tripping gunner

Are you asking permission to do curls?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211480)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: Hilarious mauve associate

Lift heavy. 5x5.

Get your 1g protein/pound

Maintain ~500 cal deficit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211335)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: vibrant violent incel

Long term this will kill his hormone levels. Only makes sense for a short term cut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211343)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Hilarious mauve associate

Well losing 10 pounds isn't exactly a "long term" goal now is it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211352)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: Vivacious startled locale preventive strike

u want us to believe you are 190lb shredded? lol faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211337)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

maybe not shredded, but I am 198 rn with some abdominal definition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211345)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: Black appetizing locus antidepressant drug

fasting/time-restricted eating...try to keep all eating&drinking within an 8-10 hr period every day, go easy on the carbs, do this while doing maintenance lifting/cardio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211347)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: vibrant violent incel



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Date: January 30th, 2018 2:46 AM
Author: Flickering irradiated legend

Loling at your moniker any time I see it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35275218)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

CR, although this takes some discipline to produce good results.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35213554)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 12:00 AM
Author: primrose hell

Intermittent fasting is sooo cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35215129)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Erotic reading party bbw

no flame: you need to hire a bodybuilding nutritionist to nail down your macros. i'd bet you probably are under eating which is causing that stagnation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211362)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

if you have money, do this and one of the programs I recommended below.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35213550)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: odious shimmering kitty

you have already lost plenty of muscle mass if you lost that much weight without lifting.

hard lifting + adequate protein + caloric deficit = muscle-sparing fat loss

there's no special formula needed to neutralize the "stubborn flab" on your belly. It's just the location where fat of last-resort is stored, and your body won't burn it until reserves stored elsewhere are largely depleted

you also cannot lose fat and build muscle at the same time, as you probably know, unless special conditions apply (you're a very beginner weightlifter or you're on roids). Bodybuilders cycle between phases of "build muscle" and "lose fat" and when repeated enough times you have built a lot of muscle and burned a lot of fat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211391)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 7:49 AM
Author: primrose hell

Last paragraph first sentence is totally wrong. This is likely to happens UNLESS special conditions apply (you’re a highly advanced lifter).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35215991)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: arousing twisted office ape

always liked martin berkhan (sp?) From leangains.com for maintenance and long-term, incremental muscle gain. not big on intermittent fasting myself but the reverse pyramid method he espouses has always been psychologically easy for me to stick to while allowing me to push the weights up over time (as opposed to linear programs like strating strength or Texas method, which I always burned out from after two months).

if you're completely new to weight training I'd do starting strength for 2-3 months at whatever caloric deficit you can handle. You can progress on these nookie programs for a while while still losing weight because you're so untrained. once it gets really hard, transition to reverse pyramid, sticking with the big lifts and accessories, for maintenance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35211432)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 6:22 PM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

Pretty cr, but I wouldn't run a calorie deficit for the first two weeks. Try what you think is maintenance, then slowly drop calories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35212608)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

does leangains have a proscribed lifting plan tho. Can't really find a workout on the site

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35212679)



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Date: November 20th, 2021 7:30 PM
Author: Fragrant Meetinghouse

looking for the original routine you posted bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#43480293)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 6:30 PM
Author: Chocolate spectacular spot sex offender

Starting strength. 5x5 Olympic lifts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35212646)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

1. Start a program with heavy compound 5x5 lifts, and high volume accessories. This workout that I wrote does the trick very well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BTzyUXEKyp8ncRfbz6qqjtvmDeChMVZOuwUzkk3K5PM/edit#gid=0

If you're uninterested in that one, do AllPro ( http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=155009423 ) but substitute regular deadlift for the stiff leggeds, and cable crunches for the calf raises, and add 3*5 bench, along with alternating 3*5 squat/deadlift.

2. KEEP DOING YOUR CARDIO. This is not only important for you to drop the fat, it's also highly beneficial for your work capacity as a lifter and athlete. Cardio should happen on lifting off-days, or on non-legs days if you go with a split routine.

3. What's your diet like? High carb? Low carb? I'm not going to recommend one over the other because I've done multiple variations of each and success has been tied far more closely to dieting discipline, rather than diet choice; several different diet types will work and idk your medical history, disposable income, or lifestyle. However, you should do some research on dieting, particularly looking at what IFBB pros will use to cut in the early phases of show prep. Also ensure your goals are realistic; you're not gonna be able to sustain super low bf% or a super low-fat diet, as you'll begin to destroy your endocrine system (hormones), as well as begin storing water on your organs, which is horrible for you. Additionally, when you start this lifting routine, you should eat heavily (in comparison with what you've been doing) for two weeks. I'm talking 200 calorie surplus and 1g of protein/lb of bodyweight. Then, begin decreasing calories while maintaining protein. This probably looks like cutting carbs. See where you are after a month of slow cutting. If you're still unsatisfied, look at contest prep diet programs and find one that fits your life well; just don't try to take it past 10%bf.

4. This post has some helpful advice for a beginner: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850805&forum_id=2#35093641

Congrats on the fast progress you've made. Keep working, and be patient. Lifting is a longterm game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35213450)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 11:50 PM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

forgive my ignorance, but for routine 2 in your posted plan, do you go Strength A -- Strength B -- Volume A -- Volume B on a 4 day rotation with one day of rest in between? 3 days per week (MWF)? Seems like a lot of bench press, every workout, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35215050)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

Routine 2 should be done Strength A, Volume A, Strength B, Volume B. 4 day rotation, one rest day in between each.

You'll notice these are full-body workouts. I think having beginners do both squats and deadlifts on the same day is probably bad for their form, as well as more than many can handle. Otherwise, you'd be doing all three each day (many full body routines prescribe this). You'll see that you also train legs and arms and back every workout day. This is designed to maximize frequency for nattys.

Full body routines are great for beginners to build the beginnings of a foundation. At some point, you'll no longer be able to squat and deadlift, or bench press on consecutive days. You'll also need to increase training volume to effectively stress your muscles into growth, which will require you to spend more time on each bodypart, necessitating a split. Until that point, this is the best way to maximize beginner growth. So yes, it's a lot of bench. And also a lot of arms and legs and back (although it's really not that much from a sheer volume perspective). Nattys have a shorter elevated protein synthesis window than enhanced lifters, and thus should train each bodypart more frequently than typical bro splits, but with less volume. This routine maximizes your strengths as a natty beginner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35215229)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 12:27 AM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

Copy. Gonna start this asap as well 60 minutes of LISS on off days. Is that too much cardio?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35215254)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 12:59 AM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

No, but it'll be an adjustment because you're gonna be damn sore. And you're gonna need to eat a lot to ensure you're recovering enough. What's current calorie intake?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35215343)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 7:02 PM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

Gonna use your plan but only 3 days per week, MWF. Cardio TuThSa. Rest Sunday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35220679)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 12:31 AM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

one other thing, supplement recommendations?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35215277)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 1:27 AM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

If you want a laundry list, here you go, but as long as you're getting zinc, fish oil and vitamin D, you can live without the others:

30mg zinc/day

5g fish oil/day

4000iu vitamin D/day

250mg magnesium glycinate/day

500mg potassium/two days

5g L-arginine/day

5g creatine/day (don't worry about loading)

FOOD.

Food is the most important item on that list. 1-2g protein/lb of bodyweight is necessary for you to maximize growth. Forgo everything but zinc and vitamin D, eat well, and you'll be fine. The others are helpful, but not essential.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35215427)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

Thanks. Thoughts on Patrick Arnold's products ur-spray and 7-spray?

http://prototypenutrition.com/ur-spray.html

http://prototypenutrition.com/products/7-spray.html

For reasons that arent important, I have ready access to both products. Dont know much about either but I do know PA is legit as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35216495)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

Arnold is certainly a credible chemist; that doesn't preclude him from making money from snake oil. This looks like bullshit, but there's probably no harm in using it if it's no cost. Everything I listed above will certainly be more helpful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35217034)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: arrogant razzmatazz shitlib



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Date: January 25th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

how long to stay on the full body program?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35232024)



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Date: November 20th, 2021 7:31 PM
Author: Fragrant Meetinghouse

brother do you still have the original program you linked above? The one currently on the google sheet is different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#43480299)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 12:30 AM
Author: harsh parlor

for a smaller amount of weight like that, just do a 3-day fast and go from there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35215273)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: Cowardly Smoky Water Buffalo

16 weeks of 500mg of testosterone ethanate/ .5mg of arimidex EoD/ 250mg HCG per week. practically non-existent long term risk if executed correctly.

cue the reefer madness-like fear mongering from “all natural” fetishizers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35216532)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

But where to find all this illegal shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35216939)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 11:17 AM
Author: odious shimmering kitty

do not use steroids recommended by some pumo with baby nuts and gyno tits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35216969)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 11:27 AM
Author: Cowardly Smoky Water Buffalo

we’ve had this debate already. you can believe this if it makes you feel better at night though. but look into why exactly one would take arimidex and hcg. you sound like a buffoon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35217022)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

fucking CR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35217037)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 11:32 AM
Author: Cowardly Smoky Water Buffalo

1. Read a book titled “Anabolics” by William Llewelyn (available on amazon kindle).

2. two options: pharma grade drugs plus blood testing via anti aging clinics (they’re pervasive just google) or high quality ugl testosterone (incredibly cheap and easy to make by well run and respected labs) coupled with pharma grade hcg/adex. try steroidsourcetalk.net.

if you’re too lazy enough to educate yourself on risks/considerations/protocols/training/nutrition given the resources i’ve identified, you’re not ready to fuck with your endocrine system. but the effort is well worth it. these fucking idiots are using 19th century steam engines when turbocharged jet engines are around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35217062)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 11:36 AM
Author: Cowardly Smoky Water Buffalo

this is the most valuable post in this entire thread by a multiple of 40

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35217085)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Maroon outnumbered shrine

Do the gains evaporate after the cycle though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35220480)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: Cowardly Smoky Water Buffalo

Not all of them. With good post cycle therapy you’ll retain significant gains and your natural test production will return as strong if not stronger

It’s a clear net positive.youll look like a god for 3 months and significantly better than baseline while you cycle off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35220498)



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Date: January 30th, 2018 2:34 AM
Author: Pearl Lascivious House

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35275184)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: aromatic corn cake

I also recommend a 5x5 heavy lifting AT FIRST, and then once your gains plateau, switch to more isolation movements (will prob take like a year). Make sure your ego doesn't get tied up in how heavy you are lifting. That is how injuries happen, and lifting injuries suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35216987)



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Date: January 23rd, 2018 11:30 AM
Author: iridescent university ratface

Don't listen to the 5x5 shit. Sounds like you need a month of Insanity or some other cut program. If you have muscle hiding under fat, adding more muscle won't make you look more ripped, it will have the opposite effect. The last 10 lbs are very stubborn. Do insanity plus something like an ab ripper X 5x a week and you will lose it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35217048)



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Date: January 30th, 2018 2:26 AM
Author: Buff Place Of Business Native

(185 1rm bencher)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#35275158)



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Date: November 20th, 2021 8:11 PM
Author: odious shimmering kitty

Cool to see Mark rippetoe and his alts repeatedly plugging 5×5 back in 2018

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867569&forum_id=2#43480461)