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Working with two boomer "programmers" who are retarded

They don’t understand slack, Jira or git. Just terrible styl...
saffron stirring boiling water trailer park
  02/07/18
Git is fine and programmers should know how to use it, and S...
charcoal quadroon
  02/08/18
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bistre irradiated shitlib
  03/18/18
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Effete misanthropic crotch codepig
  02/07/18
lolwut. you lost me on the last two.
Low-t Gas Station Queen Of The Night
  02/07/18
you mean git is like svn? that's the closest acronym i can t...
Pale macaca spot
  02/07/18
No he's talking about CVS which is the father of SVN. OP lo...
Racy violent address pistol
  02/07/18
git is terrible
white bossy foreskin doctorate
  02/07/18
...
Effete misanthropic crotch codepig
  02/07/18
it is definitely over-engineering. most people don't need gi...
Low-t Gas Station Queen Of The Night
  02/07/18
What is this flame
Aqua Learning Disabled Box Office
  02/07/18
...
bistre irradiated shitlib
  02/07/18
let me guess, you prefer vi?
Low-t Gas Station Queen Of The Night
  02/07/18
Has nothing to do with vi. Any serious dev project is going ...
Aqua Learning Disabled Box Office
  02/07/18
...
bistre irradiated shitlib
  02/07/18
Stop you fanboy fuck. "Any serious dev project is goin...
Racy violent address pistol
  02/07/18
The one time I worked on a 50+ dev team we used SVN. got eve...
saffron stirring boiling water trailer park
  02/07/18
google doesn't use git because they have literally billions ...
Passionate Indigo Cuckoldry
  02/08/18
Yeah a friend at IBM says they use an iN-house vc called RTC
saffron stirring boiling water trailer park
  02/08/18
Vi is a text editor you fraud
Racy violent address pistol
  02/07/18
yeah. the pretentious douches that prefer git also prefer vi...
Low-t Gas Station Queen Of The Night
  02/07/18
...
Effete misanthropic crotch codepig
  02/07/18
If you frequently touch your mouse while editing text you ar...
bistre irradiated shitlib
  02/08/18
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Effete misanthropic crotch codepig
  03/12/18
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saffron stirring boiling water trailer park
  03/12/18
It's a comfort thing, not about saving time.
bistre irradiated shitlib
  03/18/18
serious programmers use a proper IDE
white bossy foreskin doctorate
  02/08/18
this, but with vim bindings
bistre irradiated shitlib
  02/08/18
...
Shivering Ape Laser Beams
  02/07/18
honestly every time i meet a boomer who can touch type, i'm ...
Trip national athletic conference
  02/07/18
Boomer programmer? How fucking old are they?
Impertinent sinister abode hissy fit
  02/07/18
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Effete misanthropic crotch codepig
  02/07/18
I just assume they cut and ran with their boomer pensions by...
Impertinent sinister abode hissy fit
  02/07/18
Faggot boomers never leave
Coiffed gaped pisswyrm jewess
  02/08/18
Thomas Harris
Milky razzmatazz place of business
  02/08/18
have you considered they might be "chill" letting ...
Maize arousing sandwich
  02/07/18
Whoa
saffron stirring boiling water trailer park
  02/07/18
srsly
Racy violent address pistol
  02/07/18
hmm sounds 180 to be a highly paid boomer programmer who say...
Maize arousing sandwich
  02/07/18
...
Shivering Ape Laser Beams
  02/07/18
...
saffron stirring boiling water trailer park
  02/07/18
Wish I worked with you. Agree with all of this. They don’t l...
saffron stirring boiling water trailer park
  02/07/18
tbh every single person in this story sounds like a shitty p...
costumed thriller karate
  02/07/18
really elaborate well executed flame to convince XO lolyers ...
Marvelous persian
  02/07/18
soooo CR last paragraph is very true, explains why people...
Motley Chad Crackhouse
  02/08/18
what the fuck are all you vocational computer geeks doing on...
Exhilarant Shaky Garrison
  02/08/18
You do realize there’s a sub forum for programmers, right?
saffron stirring boiling water trailer park
  02/08/18
the thread still get cross-posted to the main bort
costumed thriller karate
  02/09/18
Last day of the contract and they managed to break the build...
saffron stirring boiling water trailer park
  03/12/18
They can't understand simple tools? Wtf?
curious skinny woman
  03/12/18
they are incompetent and retarded. Thinking about how much t...
saffron stirring boiling water trailer park
  03/12/18
Nice. Good luck, bro.
curious skinny woman
  03/12/18


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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: saffron stirring boiling water trailer park

They don’t understand slack, Jira or git. Just terrible style. I’m constantly rewriting their shit. Always asking questions and need to have their hands held through everything. They’re pathetic compared to the gen x and millennials I’ve worked with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35348757)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 7:46 AM
Author: charcoal quadroon

Git is fine and programmers should know how to use it, and Slack is just a chat app. Jira is terrible and its existence shows how low programmers have fallen. It used to be an R&D job and now it's ticket work. Fuck everything about that.

Jira is a machine that takes in keystrokes and spits out politics. Boomer programmers avoid it because they're smart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35353679)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 5:11 AM
Author: bistre irradiated shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35630039)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: Effete misanthropic crotch codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35348778)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: Low-t Gas Station Queen Of The Night

lolwut. you lost me on the last two.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349139)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Pale macaca spot

you mean git is like svn? that's the closest acronym i can think of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349210)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:28 PM
Author: Racy violent address pistol

No he's talking about CVS which is the father of SVN. OP lost me on the JIRA = Salesforce thing. They are two completely different things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349408)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: white bossy foreskin doctorate

git is terrible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35348781)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Effete misanthropic crotch codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35348793)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: Low-t Gas Station Queen Of The Night

it is definitely over-engineering. most people don't need git. subversion is good enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349143)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Aqua Learning Disabled Box Office

What is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349173)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: bistre irradiated shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349212)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: Low-t Gas Station Queen Of The Night

let me guess, you prefer vi?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349233)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Aqua Learning Disabled Box Office

Has nothing to do with vi. Any serious dev project is going to need git. Git is integrated with all version control platforms (Gitlab, Bitbucket, etc) and is default on Unix-like systems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349250)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: bistre irradiated shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349268)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: Racy violent address pistol

Stop you fanboy fuck. "Any serious dev project is going to need git" - FALSE. Google doesn't use Git on their main codebase. I've worked at more companies that use SVN over Git. I've found that Git fanboys hate on subversion because they cannot figure out how to properly branch/merge in SVN. I actually prefer branching / merging in SVN even though it took me a few years to actually get comfortable merging in large production environments. If I was working on an open source project with 50+ developers all around the world I obviously choose Git, but in most corportate settings you have teams of at most 10 working on a particular codebase at a given time (you may have many teams working on many codebases) but SVN is just fine in that regard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349448)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: saffron stirring boiling water trailer park

The one time I worked on a 50+ dev team we used SVN. got every other time lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35350044)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 10:04 PM
Author: Passionate Indigo Cuckoldry

google doesn't use git because they have literally billions of lines of code in the same place and created their own version control system specifically to handle it

I cannot think of a single thing subversion does better than git

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35359534)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 10:12 PM
Author: saffron stirring boiling water trailer park

Yeah a friend at IBM says they use an iN-house vc called RTC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35359627)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: Racy violent address pistol

Vi is a text editor you fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349417)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: Low-t Gas Station Queen Of The Night

yeah. the pretentious douches that prefer git also prefer vi.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349420)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 7:06 PM
Author: Effete misanthropic crotch codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35350120)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 1:02 AM
Author: bistre irradiated shitlib

If you frequently touch your mouse while editing text you are a homosexual.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35353100)



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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: Effete misanthropic crotch codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35586885)



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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: saffron stirring boiling water trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35586897)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: bistre irradiated shitlib

It's a comfort thing, not about saving time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35630041)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 3:28 AM
Author: white bossy foreskin doctorate

serious programmers use a proper IDE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35353460)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 11:32 AM
Author: bistre irradiated shitlib

this, but with vim bindings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35354964)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: Shivering Ape Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349202)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Trip national athletic conference

honestly every time i meet a boomer who can touch type, i'm genuinely impressed

any boomer who can operate a computer at a basic level is easily top 1% in their demographic for understanding technology

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35348789)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Impertinent sinister abode hissy fit

Boomer programmer? How fucking old are they?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35348792)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Effete misanthropic crotch codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349105)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Impertinent sinister abode hissy fit

I just assume they cut and ran with their boomer pensions by now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349216)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 5:32 AM
Author: Coiffed gaped pisswyrm jewess

Faggot boomers never leave

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35353535)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 7:18 AM
Author: Milky razzmatazz place of business

Thomas Harris

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35353611)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:58 PM
Author: Maize arousing sandwich

have you considered they might be "chill" letting some little bitch do all that stuff for them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349192)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: saffron stirring boiling water trailer park

Whoa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35350048)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: Racy violent address pistol
Subject: srsly

I have two boomer programmers that work under me. They work on an ancient mainframe we are in the process of phasing out. Without generalizing, they are no where near the level of the millenial's. It's not the case of a different toolset either. I had a junior developer write a restful service client in RPG (their language) because they couldn't comprehend JSON / REST. He never touched the language before and wrote a very well designed client. Their code constantly violates all SOLID principles.

It's not just them either. Same company I worked under a software engineering manager who was supposedly a genius developer. He is a smart/clever/witty guy but his software engineering prowess was way overstated. He constantly had these insane architectural ideas that involved enterprise message buses / services / etc that completely misused these integration's. He architected an enterprise message bus that was suppose to sit between our systems and our fax/sms/smtp servers as well as system to system communication. Except our archaic mainframe didnt support AMQP (the protocol the queues are based on). So he had them write to a mysql table, then wrote a program that polled that table for new entries, then placed messages on a queue which then is consumed and calls a web service - which is so much worse than simply calling the service without all the bullshit in between.

The issue with boomers is that they are still stuck in the "its just logic" mindset. They always state that they don't know X (insert new platform/language/framework/pattern) but in the end it's all just 0's and 1's which they know "very well". Except this not really true anymore. Programming has become so abstracted that it rarely requires clever little logic hacks / low level computer sciency concepts / etc. Programming now is much more like traditional engineering/architecting where you have these various components / sets of components and you need to piece them together using best practices (SOLID/GRASP/DRY/SoC/etc). It's all about taking a complex business problem, frame it in a system's "lens", abstracting all the moving parts, piecing them together with the aforementioned principles, etc. Equally as important is the toolset around your project (build automation, containerization, deployment automation, regression / systems / unit / security testing, etc), your PMO and SDLC, the maturity of your release cycles, etc.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349395)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: Maize arousing sandwich

hmm sounds 180 to be a highly paid boomer programmer who says stuff in meetings like "in the end it's all just zeros and ones". wonder if a millenial could get away with this shtick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35349459)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Shivering Ape Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35350062)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: saffron stirring boiling water trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35350064)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: saffron stirring boiling water trailer park

Wish I worked with you. Agree with all of this. They don’t learn frameworks or anything new at all really

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35350036)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 7:02 PM
Author: costumed thriller karate

tbh every single person in this story sounds like a shitty programmer

edit: i will at least give the millennials credit over the boomers for managing to get the job done without a ton of unnecessary bullshit, but i had to wince at the "couldn't comprehend JSON / REST"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35350100)



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Date: February 7th, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: Marvelous persian

really elaborate well executed flame to convince XO lolyers that programming == engineering

As a real EE engineer I have to say LOL NO

OMG boomers dont know how to set up the fax API to work with the mainframe subsystems. GTFO here with this code monkey bullshit

sorry about your tiny pink CS degree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35350158)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 7:06 AM
Author: Motley Chad Crackhouse

soooo CR

last paragraph is very true, explains why people coming out of bootcamps can be very successful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35353599)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 4:08 AM
Author: Exhilarant Shaky Garrison

what the fuck are all you vocational computer geeks doing on a lolyer bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35353509)



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Date: February 8th, 2018 10:26 AM
Author: saffron stirring boiling water trailer park

You do realize there’s a sub forum for programmers, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35354530)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: costumed thriller karate

the thread still get cross-posted to the main bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35364733)



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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: saffron stirring boiling water trailer park

Last day of the contract and they managed to break the build at midnight. I’m not fixing it. Fuck them all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35586871)



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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: curious skinny woman

They can't understand simple tools? Wtf?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35586903)



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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: saffron stirring boiling water trailer park

they are incompetent and retarded. Thinking about how much they've managed to earn over their 20+ year careers without being able to do basic shit on their own is baffling. Luckily, this is my last day and I'm going somewhere I'll be building this department from scratch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35586908)



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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: curious skinny woman

Nice. Good luck, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=2#35586916)