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Date: February 11th, 2018 8:54 PM Author: Chestnut Headpube
obviously they are not Catholic, but still may have some genuine insights as members of our separated bretheren in the Orthodox Church:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/codreanu-and-the-warrior-ethos.472625/
i'm especially interested in this part:
"However, perhaps the most interesting dimension of the ideology of the Iron Guard was its approach to theology. The Legionnaires conceived of the Romanian nation as having a special relationship to God and its commitment to the traditional Orthodox Christianity of the Romanian people informed every aspect of their thought and action. Like Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the ruthlessly Catholic Jesuit order before them, the Legionnaires recognized no limitations on the ends to which they might go in defense of their particular variation of the Christian faith. The extremism of their cult of martyrdom is perhaps best exemplified by their belief that in order to defend the Faith and the Nation, a Legionnaire might at times be called upon to perform deeds that would result in his own damnation. In other words, not only an individual life but an individual soul must at times be sacrificed for the greater good of the struggle. This is likely the most intense form of cultic martyrdom ever devised. Religious movements which teach martyrdom typically promise reward in a future life for the faithful holy warrior who sacrifices his mere mortal life for the cause. Yet for the holy warriors of the Iron Guard, a soldier of faith could be called upon to lay down not only his mortal life but his immortal soul as well. (Payne, 1995) No cult of martyrdom could ever be more extreme. Their fervent Orthodoxy aside, one might be tempted to compare the theological outlook of the Legionnaires with that of Milton’s Lucifer. Just as Milton depicted Satan as having insisted that it is better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven, so might the faithful warriors of the Iron Guard be said to have believed that it is better to achieve Hell in the struggle for one’s nation than to achieve Heaven for having engaged in a less virulent struggle. The Romanian warriors took the martyrdom cults of the Islamic jihadists or the Japanese kamikazes still a step further."
if i remember correctly, there is a part of the Summa Theologiae in which St. Thomas hints at a somewhat similar idea-- that if (per impossible in his view, unlike the Iron Guard who thought this is something they actually had to deal with IRL) there were some scenario in which you were called upon to sacrifice your own salvation for the sake of others, it would be the right thing to do so. i'm trying to find it now but i can't seem to find the right unique search terms to Google for even if i restrict my search to site:newadvent.org.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3890284&forum_id=2#35380181)
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: maniacal rough-skinned spot
This is 180.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3890284&forum_id=2#35431783)
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