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Court orders full restoration of DACA program
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:11 PM Author: flickering walnut crackhouse reading party https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/13/court-orders-full-restoration-daca-program/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394895) |
Date: February 13th, 2018 4:13 PM Author: Well-lubricated menage newt How does the POTUS not have the power to end it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394916) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: red masturbator athletic conference They're saying that it's a violation of the APA.
Not an admin law guy, but using the APA to attack the renunciation of a executive rule seems very weird |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:00 PM Author: flatulent friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395353) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394922) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown these fucking "judges" have no shame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394925) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: passionate puce rehab If only Trump wanted to become the permanent Defender of the Constitution... ugh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394927) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: swashbuckling tantric idiot LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSSS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394928) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: Clear puppy we have to get rid of 'judges' what a silly convention to have 'judges' in a society |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 1:54 PM Author: seedy ruddy stage we have to get rid of (((judges))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35401939) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: emerald kitchen insane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394933) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: Talented Station Faggotry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394958) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Citrine senate Making it impossible to take them seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394963) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Gaped violent ladyboy turdskin so "this program that aims to flout immigration law via executive order is illegal" = not a good enough reason to end DACA not right away, not in a week, not in a month, but several months after the announcement date fuck it, martial law |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:20 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394983) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:09 PM Author: passionate puce rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396548) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:15 AM Author: Aphrodisiac orchid tattoo I’ve been dating this for FUCKING YEARS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35399374) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:21 PM Author: Mentally impaired territorial mood affirmative action That's what Trump gets for being pure shit at actually governing. Unforced errors all over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394998) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:52 PM Author: Brindle Self-absorbed Heaven Private Investor yep this is all on Trump. really great point you made there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395288) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: Mentally impaired territorial mood affirmative action You know he's sloppy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396246) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 12:35 AM Author: Dead Potus School Cafeteria Sounds like he's right in this case. You can do things in a way that's likely to withstand legal scrutiny, or you can do it sloppy. Which has Trump done time after time? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35398740) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:16 AM Author: Aphrodisiac orchid tattoo You’re a fucking moron
Give me back my worthless draggies |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: smoky market Not a surprising result given the judge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395022) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: razzle institution famous landscape painting Can someone link to the opinion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395024) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:28 PM Author: red masturbator athletic conference One link I found:
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/02/13/orderdaca.pdf |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: razzle institution famous landscape painting Thanks.
Wow, just wow, on this opinion. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:10 PM Author: Arrogant exciting dilemma philosopher-king Trump: DACA is over.
Judge: You didn't use the magic words. |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 12:37 AM Author: Grizzly thirsty travel guidebook brunch [Scalia skyhooking an infinite can of Ragu towards a wall it will never reach in hell] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35398750) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396594) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: histrionic theater stage so the president needs more "sound legal reasons" than "it's illegal".
got it. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: Stimulating nighttime forum prole At what point does this wander into constitutional crisis territory? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395063) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: flickering walnut crackhouse reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395154) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:09 PM Author: histrionic theater stage We're in loony tunes now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396125) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:14 PM Author: Beady-eyed jap house I've poasted about this before, but sooner or later Trump is gonna say fuck it and start ignoring court orders. These judges think they can make shit up to mean whatever they want, and they're gonna put us all in a bad spot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396183) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:39 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396345) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396595) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:17 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396596) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:41 PM Author: Obsidian mediation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397656) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:17 AM Author: Aphrodisiac orchid tattoo Months ago
Congress needs to impeach this nigger |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: galvanic swollen twinkling uncleanness resort Isnt DACA based on Executive’s authority to exercise discretion in what to prosecute? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395059) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: red masturbator athletic conference Yes, but if they want to end it they need to have a sound legal reason, according to the judge. And since their legal reason wasn't sound, ending DACA violates the APA.
Which seems dumb. Who cares if the President was wrong in his legal conclusion that DACA was unconstitutional? How is that any less rational than just saying "I don't like this program and therefore it's gone"??
Admin is retarded |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:42 PM Author: galvanic swollen twinkling uncleanness resort Isnt this fundamentally a poltical question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395180) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:43 PM Author: red masturbator athletic conference Yes. These opinions are dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395184) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:01 PM Author: flatulent friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395361) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Exhilarant Ebony Digit Ratio It should violate Due Process, not the APA. What does the APA have to do with an executive order? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396984) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: dull startling cruise ship knife who cares? Congress will fix this before it matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395130) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: racy home tanks trumps leverage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395205) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:56 PM Author: dull startling cruise ship knife Not really. Republicans have been relying on "March 5 is not a real deadline" much more than Democrats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395320) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:06 PM Author: racy home yea but now both sides know that theres *really* no deadline. dems cant make any substantial concessions while this is out there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395406) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:52 PM Author: Arrogant exciting dilemma philosopher-king who cares??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395280) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:54 PM Author: Citrine senate Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395308) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:39 PM Author: Pink university Law is fraud
Lol at you lolyers |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Exhilarant Ebony Digit Ratio Law is not fraud, lawyers are fraud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396989) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:40 PM Author: arousing business firm You must have a sound legal reason for enforcing existing laws! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395169) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:45 PM Author: smoky market This is outrageous. Gaurafis knows it too, but he doesn't care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395213) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: Stimulating nighttime forum prole My guess is that if you're a judge in a shitlibia, and you want to advance your career, this is what is expected of you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395252) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:03 PM Author: red masturbator athletic conference The only thing a district Court judge cares about is getting on the COA - do politically charged opinions like this even help with that? I would have guessed DCt judges try to be as non-controversial as possible to win Congressional support (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395382) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:13 PM Author: Stimulating nighttime forum prole I have no idea. Maybe he's hoping his fealty to the cause will be rewarded by a later shitlib president? You know, standing up to facism, etc., whatever these assholes delude themselves into thinking.
You know there's all this hero worship of early civil rights decisions from judges like Julius Warring, maybe he's thinking that his decision puts him in a league with him?
I have no idea why else, most college undergrads could probably point out the flaws in this decision. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:56 PM Author: vermilion big parlor there have been judges that move into executive branch, law firms, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396447) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 8:17 PM Author: Exhilarant Ebony Digit Ratio I don't think so. Isn't Rakoff a titan? Still, NO2dCirPWNED. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396991) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:18 AM Author: Aphrodisiac orchid tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35399380) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: buck-toothed personal credit line isn't he the same judge who lowered standards for minority firemen or something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396526) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:01 PM Author: Adventurous angry whorehouse funny that the whole "sound reason" schtick is a revival of substantive due process, but from the left this time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395356) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 12:32 AM Author: appetizing indian lodge old irish cottage Plz don't be a lawyer who ever took an admin law class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35398730) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:40 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396348) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:03 PM Author: Arrogant exciting dilemma philosopher-king though time-consuming, i like the idea of SCOTUS smacking down all these sniveling fags on issues like daca and the travel ban. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395385) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:08 PM Author: twisted fuchsia gunner base lol @ SCOTUS "smacking down" anything. Nothing will change until Congress grows enough balls to start impeaching these judges. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:10 PM Author: Arrogant exciting dilemma philosopher-king Trump will win on both these issues if they get in front of SCOTUS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395462) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:10 PM Author: Brass volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396146) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: histrionic theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396247) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:27 PM Author: twisted fuchsia gunner base of course he will, but these judges are still there and will continue to make insane rulings. Judges have no skin in the game. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:40 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396349) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:05 PM Author: razzle-dazzle olive corner sneaky criminal DANCE INTO THE FIRE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395396) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:40 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown This is infuriating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396352) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:53 PM Author: Vibrant sickened jew blood rage PWNED!!!!!! Judges to Trump/Trumptards: how's my ass taste? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396424) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: fragrant chestnut immigrant Just wait til SCOTUS tells judges HOWS ARE ASS TASTE? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396671) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:19 AM Author: Aphrodisiac orchid tattoo This is what living in India is like so you must love it right pp? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35399383) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:57 PM Author: vermilion big parlor can't this admin get a couple of conservaheroes to do this shit right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396452) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: Titillating pisswyrm ticket booth This doesn't line up at all with how I learned admin law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396583) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 8:19 PM Author: Lemon Curious Trust Fund Infuriating but not surprising. You have cloistered lib judges who hate Trump, supported by naive 26-year-old lib clerks who hate Trump. Typically judges even if very lib or very conservative have the wisdom and judgment to curb their clerks' ideological excesses and to stay within the bounds of the law. Now it seems like they're mutually enabling each other, ruling against Trump whenever they see a legal rationale for doing so that is less than 100% frivolous.
The ruling here is similar to the travel ban ruling, in that they take presidential decisions where typically POTUS enjoys near absolute deference, and subject them to a test where the judge has to find the justification for action persuasive in order to uphold it.
As someone mentioned earlier, yes, this is moving in the direction of a constitutional crisis. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:37 PM Author: histrionic theater stage This is very dangerous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397627) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:38 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397631) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: cordovan sanctuary clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397693) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:49 PM Author: Obsidian mediation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397719) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:34 PM Author: trip windowlicker mental disorder Can’t the administration just give another reason tomorrow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397613) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:36 PM Author: Beady-eyed jap house Do you think Hawaii judge will find that the reason is legally sufficient? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397623) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:38 PM Author: histrionic theater stage Exactly. No reason is sufficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397633) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:39 PM Author: Citrine senate No reason to deport the beautiful dreamers could possibly be sufficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397640) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:41 PM Author: histrionic theater stage Unreal. I really hope SCOTUS acts quickly. I really dont put this on DACA applicants. They might as well be like STFU hes actually trying to help us. Thats the fucked up thing here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397655) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:43 PM Author: Citrine senate That’s another amazing thing here. This judge just basically interfered in the negotiations. If this tanks the bill (which I hoap it does) and SCOTUS overturns the dreamers are completely fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397667) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: Exhilarant Ebony Digit Ratio 180-D chess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397679) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: charcoal gay wizard lodge 8636446353 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397681) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: Obsidian mediation Amazing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397724) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:42 PM Author: trip windowlicker mental disorder They’d try. This incorrect legal conclusion justification allows them to sidestep other admin case law. Fix the memo and they can’t hide behind it.
SCOTUS won’t allow lower courts to veto the president. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: Black yarmulke plaza Reminder: libs don't believe in the rule of law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397726) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 1:22 AM Author: razzle-dazzle olive corner sneaky criminal It's war pal. Is your precious rule of law going to help you when you're on the train to Andersonville? Ha not likely my friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35398910) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:52 PM Author: hairraiser set I for one welcome the complete delegitimization of the judiciary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397739) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:59 PM Author: Gaped violent ladyboy turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397785) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 10:01 PM Author: crimson national I'm going to begin leaving my clerkship off my resume. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397802) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 1:19 PM Author: Mentally impaired territorial mood affirmative action Look at the Little Eichmann over here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35401620) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 1:24 AM Author: razzle-dazzle olive corner sneaky criminal WE CAN DANCE IF WE WANT TO WE CAN LEAVE YOUR FRIENDS BEHIND 'CAUSE YOUR FRIENDS DON'T DANCE AND IF THEY DON'T DANCE WELL, THEY'RE NO FRIENDS OF MINE |