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do traditionalist cathloics believe jesus ACTUALLY rose from the dead?
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:52 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker like he was dead for 3 days then he stopped being dead and started living again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396416) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig yep. like a star trek teleportation device thing was triggered and rearranged his cells to make them alive again. bingo bango. and in hte meantime, his consciousness (separate and apart from his brain and body) was chilling in hell, blasting devils like some first person shooter game. |
Date: February 13th, 2018 6:53 PM Author: Tan principal's office internal respiration if you don't believe this, you are not ANY kind of actual Christian hth |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:54 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396429) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:54 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker pretty sure that's not true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396431) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:54 PM Author: Tan principal's office internal respiration uh yeah it is bro ever heard of the Apostles' or Nicene Creeds? |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396443) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:58 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker It seems you've fundamentally misunderstood the nature of religion brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396460) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig are we talking about "religion" or christianity? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396468) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:00 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker if you misunderstand the nature of religion than you will misunderstand christianity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396478) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:01 PM Author: Tan principal's office internal respiration lol you clearly have no fucking idea what you're talking about, man I've gone to church my whole life. If you disagree with anything in the Apostles Creed, you are not a Christian of any sort. You're "spiritual, but not religious" |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker have you ever read a serious theologian? it's not the watered down stuff you get in church. it's actual religious thought. going to church doesn't make you an expert on god. in fact, if that's all you do you're probably misleading yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396493) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: Tan principal's office internal respiration GK Chesterton and Dietrich Bonhoeffer would lol at you stfu |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:04 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker looks like you're pretty proficient at name dropping. do you do any independent thinking? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396507) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:08 PM Author: Tan principal's office internal respiration first, you question my theological understanding when I make a statement that literally any Christian theologian worth his salt agrees with (if you dispute anything in the Apostles' Creed, you're not a Christian). now, you're questioning my "independent thinking" after I named two prominent theologians would lol at you for questioning the above. fwiw, I have an extraordinarily nuanced religious worldview that incorporates elements of Gnosticism, Neoplatonism, and even Eastern concepts. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:08 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker really showing humility here too sounds like you totally get christianity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396543) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:10 PM Author: Tan principal's office internal respiration "The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid." - Chesterton I am confident in my beliefs |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:11 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker lol youre kinda fucking weird mate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396561) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:13 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig dont do that respond properly or you LOSE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396576) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:09 PM Author: Sepia useless blood rage water buffalo the last paragraph makes you sound like a huge faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396549) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:11 PM Author: dark seedy dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396566) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:48 PM Author: Duck-like Tank Becky Was hoping that part was flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396827) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: Supple Brass Messiness ? Bonhoeffer was a pastor and had a doctorate in theology (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396528) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:21 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig lol doctorate in theology. that's like a black getting a "doctorate in high school principal" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396632) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:23 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396654) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:04 PM Author: Sepia useless blood rage water buffalo a lot of "serious theologians" are shitlibs with professorships at shitlib universities with shitlib religion departments that can't be trusted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396511) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:07 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker https://www.britannica.com/biography/Emanuel-Swedenborg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396530) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:07 PM Author: Carmine Comical Deer Antler Factory Reset Button lmfao. "when it comes to god, i'll trust the exthperth." he lisped. "thith isn't the watered down thtuff you'd hear in church."
the other niggers in Hell listened with interest to this learned scholar come among them |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:27 AM Author: dark seedy dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35400816) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig uh, no, there are things you are supposed to believe if you are christian and jesus coming back from the dead as a zombie is one of them. you can say you believe in other stuff but not that but thats not christianity. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker aren't you jew? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396494) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig lol no i love my jewish brethren though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396496) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker ok well again i would suggest reading serious christian thinkers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396501) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:05 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig i have--i went thorugh a whole thing where i read enough of it. aint nothing going to say you can be a christian and deny his resurrection dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396515) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:07 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker https://swedenborg.com/why-jesus-was-born/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396534) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:08 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig yeah i know that dippy shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396539) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:10 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker cool thanks for the productive response (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396554) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig im not going to listen to a dorky 20 year old on a youtubey crap video made around the time that Jesus Myth got some new foothold and was in response to same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396579) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker WUT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396584) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:11 PM Author: Sepia useless blood rage water buffalo this stuff comes across as incredibly low iq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396562) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:12 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker https://www.britannica.com/biography/Emanuel-Swedenborg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396572) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: fragrant theater stage this guy sounds 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396588) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker i know man! he had a big influence on william james' father (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396592) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:00 PM Author: Sepia useless blood rage water buffalo (guy who believes in a big omniscient sky fairy, but can't get past the idea of some guy rising from the dead) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396477) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:01 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker its really unfortunate that this sort of uneducated starmanning passes as "reason" and "rationality" these days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396479) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: Sepia useless blood rage water buffalo (christer unironically criticizing the "reason" and "rationality" of others) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396490) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Startling onyx stead boltzmann Not sure how you'd justify believing he's the Messiah if you believe the resurrection is flame...
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:57 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig eh the story focuses on different parts as being significant at different times in christianity. but yeah, the whole dying and born again thing was a very early component. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396453) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: Supple Brass Messiness Jesuits are barely Trinitarian at this point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396525) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:58 PM Author: Odious bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396462) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:58 PM Author: Sepia useless blood rage water buffalo you don't believe this? why are you such an ardent godmo in other threads? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396464) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker because i believe in god, that the human mind cannot fathom it, and that religion plays the appropriate trick on our mind to prevent constant existential dread in His absence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396472) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:01 PM Author: Sepia useless blood rage water buffalo (guy who believes in a big omniscient sky fairy, but can't get past the idea of some guy rising from the dead) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396481) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:07 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig that just means you change shit around to comport with whatever is thrown at you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396532) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:12 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker are you saying dogma is the appropriate interpretation of relgious doctrine and experience? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396570) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig Let me be clear: NOPE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396586) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:17 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker so why you mad at a little wiggle room? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396597) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:18 PM Author: disturbing contagious pozpig lol okay then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396606) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: dark seedy dingle berry gas yourself lib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396471) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:07 PM Author: excitant shrine community account yes. They also believe that when a catholic priest blesses bread and wine it literally (not figuratively, but LITERALLY) becomes the body and blood of jesus christ:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:08 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker silly catholics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396538) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:11 PM Author: Tan principal's office internal respiration one of several reasons that PCA > Catholicism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396569) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:03 PM Author: soul-stirring halford PCA might as well adopt OP's premise. Christianity's version of shitlibs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35397376) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:42 PM Author: Aromatic rose brunch scourge upon the earth Every single Christian believes this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396774) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:42 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker nope (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396781) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:47 PM Author: Aromatic rose brunch scourge upon the earth Belief in the literal resurrection is sine qua non of Christian faith (at least, regular Trinitarians, including Orthos, Latins, and mainline Prots, who profess either the Apostles or the Nicene Creed--Evangelicals generally believe without profession to a creed but rather deriving the belief straight from the text of the Bible, but I guess I can't say what Mormons and non-Trinitarian weirdos are up to). No one seriously disputes this.
If you think someone does, link them. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:54 PM Author: dark seedy dingle berry He brought up Swedenborg earlier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396865) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 8:01 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker this is also peterson's whole shtick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396900) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:00 PM Author: Aromatic rose brunch scourge upon the earth To be fair, I did say "seriously". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35397350) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:10 AM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker https://biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/vox/vol18/tillich_mcdonald.pdf
The statements of science are literally true whereas those of religious faith are what tillich called symbolic expressions of our ultimate concern, ie attempts to describe whatever it is that we love with all our hearts and minds and strength. |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 12:35 PM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker brother askav, from above:
"Tillich contends quite simply that all religious affirmations are ‘nonliteral’. In this respect he regards the idea of symbolism as akin to the Thomistic doctrine of analogy. He protests against anyone using the phrase ‘only a symbol’. Such a statement is to be avoided, for the simple reason that ‘non-analogous and non-symbolic knowledge of God has less truth than analogous or symbolic knowledge’."
The idea is that just like we understand fundamental physical things only through math (we cannot understand it intuitively) we understand fundamental nonphysical things through religion (we cannot understand it literally) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:42 PM Author: startled mexican yes i proudly "believe" it. its absolutely 180 how it pisses off libs, jews, neckbeards etc while making my life better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35396778) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 8:57 PM Author: charismatic amethyst digit ratio Blessed are those who believe without seeing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35397330) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:10 PM Author: dark seedy dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35397437) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: Drunken stimulating box office boistinker baffles me that ppl can believe in God---all knowing/all powerful, but refuse to believe Christ could be raised from Dead.
Makes. No. Sense. |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:14 AM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker one is consistent with observation one is not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35400706) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: Drunken stimulating box office boistinker Haha, 4 realz? plenty of proof that Jesus rose from dead.
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35400724) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:18 AM Author: Drunken stimulating box office boistinker at work. don't have time. I'd encourage you to read Acts from the New Testament. Good starting point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35400737) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker the bible is not evidence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35400740) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Drunken stimulating box office boistinker hahaha. good one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35400757) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: Drunken stimulating box office boistinker The fundamental reason smart ppl have such a hard time in believing God and the Trinity is not because of any scientific reason.
Rather they are scared (rightfully so) of what that would then mean for how they live their lives. |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: dark seedy dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35400748) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: submissive half-breed candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35400758) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 11:22 AM Author: buff vivacious rigor new version Lol @ this thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35400765) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Chest-beating Really Tough Guy Theater ? Of course. We are also Young Earth Creationists because that is the literal inerrant teaching of Sacred Scripture as assembled and taught canonically by the Holy Magisterium of the Catholic Church. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892289&forum_id=2#35401284) |