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NLRB says Google engineer memo was "so harmful, discriminatory, and disruptive

that it was ok to fire him https://www.bloomberg.com/news...
Nubile big-titted background story karate
  02/17/18
sounds like TRUMP needs to drain the NLRB swamp
swashbuckling sapphire mood parlour
  02/17/18
he's put people on the NLRB who have already rolled back a l...
White Church
  02/17/18
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irradiated translucent place of business
  02/17/18
cr NLRB is going to come out in favor of employers bigly in ...
Mind-boggling Deer Antler
  02/17/18
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irradiated translucent place of business
  02/17/18
good scolarship
Nubile big-titted background story karate
  02/17/18
ty brother
White Church
  02/17/18
They MAY have consulted with a labor lawyer? LOL by that yo...
Twisted party of the first part casino
  02/17/18
You’d be surprised how often companies fail to seek advice f...
White Church
  02/17/18
This was a national story. They didn't fire him naked withou...
racy claret circlehead trailer park
  02/17/18
I have no doubt they have competent employment attorneys in ...
White Church
  02/17/18
of course they got competent labor advice. it's literally th...
Nubile big-titted background story karate
  02/17/18
he's drawing a distinction between labor lawyers and employm...
Mind-boggling Deer Antler
  02/19/18
the shitty article doesn't specify what the actual actionabl...
Aqua Out-of-control Abode
  02/17/18
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abnormal spot toaster
  02/17/18
in what way was it harmful outside of being disruptive?
irradiated translucent place of business
  02/17/18
Libs equate speech they don't like as violent and harmful, a...
Bisexual painfully honest rigor
  02/17/18
this decision wasn't made by a lib, it was made by a trump a...
White Church
  02/17/18
Fuck this shit
abnormal spot toaster
  02/17/18
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swashbuckling sapphire mood parlour
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spectacular brethren faggot firefighter
  02/19/18
the speech was "so harmful" = unadulterated shitli...
Bisexual painfully honest rigor
  02/17/18
Whereas the statements from other Google employees were ok.
Coral kitty plaza
  02/17/18
it's no use friend
Multi-colored slap-happy jewess
  02/17/18
180 decision to replace Christianity with "diversity&qu...
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More like Corporatism:Diversity christianity:virgin birth
boyish national sandwich
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spectacular brethren faggot firefighter
  02/19/18
i assume this is apoealable to a real court?
impressive floppy headpube
  02/17/18
No appeal. It’s the equivalent of prosecutorial discretion o...
White Church
  02/17/18
is this finding given deference in the civil suit in state c...
Buff odious lodge
  02/17/18
No, but the legal issues are 100% different there
White Church
  02/17/18
ty
Buff odious lodge
  02/17/18
Facts are harmful and disruptive
Deranged bespoke dingle berry
  02/17/18
Serious question from a non-lawyer who knows zero about thes...
wine cracking death wish weed whacker
  02/17/18
Doesn’t matter one way or another. The only thing the NLRA p...
White Church
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: Nubile big-titted background story karate

that it was ok to fire him

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-16/google-firing-of-damore-was-legal-u-s-labor-panel-lawyer-said

Google’s firing of an engineer over his controversial memo criticizing its diversity policies and “politically correct monoculture” didn’t violate U.S. labor law, a federal agency lawyer concluded.

Statements in James Damore’s 3,000-word memo “regarding biological differences between the sexes were so harmful, discriminatory, and disruptive” that they fell outside protections for collective action in the workplace, an associate general counsel for the National Labor Relations Board wrote in a six-page memo disclosed Thursday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424059)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:06 AM
Author: swashbuckling sapphire mood parlour

sounds like TRUMP needs to drain the NLRB swamp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424068)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: White Church

he's put people on the NLRB who have already rolled back a lot of Obama NLRB precedent in just a few months.

in fact, this decision came from the NLRB's current general counsel, who has openly declared that he wants to roll back nearly everything the NLRB has done since 2009.

from what i have read, when they terminated him google was careful to rely ONLY on portions of the memo that were incendiary and arguably could constitute sex discrimination/harassment. they may have consulted with a labor lawyer before firing the guy (or they got lucky in not citing other portions of the memo).

if correct, this is not a controversial decision. the NLRA only protects concerted activity regarding "protected" subjects (pay, working conditions, etc.) if google truly only relied on shit like "WOMEN ARE BAD AT SCIENCE!" in the memo, the NLRA shouldn't protect statements like that anyway. (if you disagree, then you are in agreement, in principle, with the shitlibs Obama packed the NLRB with, who wanted to extend NLRA protection to almost any conduct no matter how tenuously related to working conditions affecting employees as a group.)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424089)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: irradiated translucent place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424094)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Deer Antler

cr NLRB is going to come out in favor of employers bigly in the next couple years, and this is the opening salvo. Libs laughing & high-fiving about this memo don't realize it's a Trojan horse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424103)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: irradiated translucent place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424109)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: Nubile big-titted background story karate

good scolarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424161)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: White Church

ty brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425303)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Twisted party of the first part casino

They MAY have consulted with a labor lawyer? LOL by that you mean their chief employment litigation attorney - who probably is an expert in his/her own right - consulted with whoever the best labor lawyer in the country is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425318)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: White Church

You’d be surprised how often companies fail to seek advice from someone who knows labor law. Even prominent employment attorneys often know dick about labor law, not even enough to spot the potential NLRA issue here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425716)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: racy claret circlehead trailer park

This was a national story. They didn't fire him naked without any advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425755)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: White Church

I have no doubt they have competent employment attorneys in house and/or consulted with an outside employment lawyer, but you can’t take for granted that they sought out or received competent labor advice.

Unless the memo was national news before he was fired and the stories were discussing the NLRA protections present in the memo, which I think is unlikely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426057)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: Nubile big-titted background story karate

of course they got competent labor advice. it's literally the 2nd most valuable in the world that employs tens of thousands of people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427609)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:35 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Deer Antler

he's drawing a distinction between labor lawyers and employment lawyers. Normies don't even realize there's a difference but labor lawyers think they have some special insight into the arcane workings of the Act (got to call it "the Act" btw that's how they know you're "in") that mere employment lawyers could never hope to grasp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35435816)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: Aqua Out-of-control Abode

the shitty article doesn't specify what the actual actionable statements were. does the decision?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425701)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: abnormal spot toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425660)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: irradiated translucent place of business

in what way was it harmful outside of being disruptive?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424070)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Bisexual painfully honest rigor

Libs equate speech they don't like as violent and harmful, and therefore reason it is not protected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424076)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: White Church

this decision wasn't made by a lib, it was made by a trump appointee who has declared outright war on all the shitlib Obama-era policies issued over the last 10 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424144)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: abnormal spot toaster

Fuck this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425668)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: swashbuckling sapphire mood parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425681)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: spectacular brethren faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35435862)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:08 AM
Author: Bisexual painfully honest rigor

the speech was "so harmful" = unadulterated shitlib in the NLRB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424073)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: Coral kitty plaza

Whereas the statements from other Google employees were ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424081)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Multi-colored slap-happy jewess

it's no use friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425322)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: Sepia Marketing Idea Private Investor

180 decision to replace Christianity with "diversity" as the moral/religious foundation of society. seems to be working out great so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424106)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: irradiated translucent place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424108)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: contagious fishy home coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424113)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: fragrant juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424120)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: Insane mad-dog skullcap reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424124)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac awkward dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424135)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: walnut 180 knife



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: sick self-absorbed site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426059)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: sable box office athletic conference



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Zippy Really Tough Guy Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426180)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: wine cracking death wish weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427114)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: Hairraiser house-broken brunch



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Date: February 17th, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: razzmatazz cuck location



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: boyish national sandwich

More like

Corporatism:Diversity christianity:virgin birth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35435850)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: spectacular brethren faggot firefighter



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: impressive floppy headpube

i assume this is apoealable to a real court?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425719)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: White Church

No appeal. It’s the equivalent of prosecutorial discretion on the part of the nlrb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426079)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Buff odious lodge

is this finding given deference in the civil suit in state court?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426176)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: White Church

No, but the legal issues are 100% different there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426340)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Buff odious lodge

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426410)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Deranged bespoke dingle berry

Facts are harmful and disruptive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425826)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:58 PM
Author: wine cracking death wish weed whacker

Serious question from a non-lawyer who knows zero about these issue.

Is the truth of the statement any kind of defense / work in his favor in any way? Or does that not matter at all b/c you could still be extremely disruptive with the truth...

The word "discriminatory" in that sentence though bugs me b/c for some reason it makes it seem like discriminatory implies untruth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427137)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: White Church

Doesn’t matter one way or another. The only thing the NLRA protects is concerted activity aimed at improving the workplace. The NLRB’s prosecutor found that he was terminated only for statements in the memo that had nothing to do with subjects protected by the NLRA so the case was dismissed. The agency did acknowledge that there were protected statements in the memo but google didn’t mention any of that content as the reason he was fired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427302)