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on the actual bar, are there ever answer choices that are wrong bc "incomplete"?
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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:43 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part this is what's giving me the most trouble on the practice Qs: choosing what the company says is true, but "incomplete." i'm usually 50/50 between the right and wrong answer, but sometimes go with the wrong "incomplete" choice.
are real bar questions ever wrong because incomplete? or are there 3 truly wrong and 1 truly correct? |
Date: February 17th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: Multi-colored orchestra pit queen of the night 3 truly wrong. Poast an example (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425150) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part can't think of any right now.
but basically:
A) Obviously incorrect B) Very likely incorrect C) Could be right, seems right, but would require a leap / an assumption D) Correct statement of law relevant to the problem
We're told C is correct |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:10 PM Author: Multi-colored orchestra pit queen of the night Lol you're going to need a real example. But there is always a flaw in three of the answers. One is clearly better than the others. |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part and you noticed a difference between real MBE Qs and fake MBE Qs put out by Barbri/Kaplan, et al.? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425276) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: grizzly blathering spot not really. barbris are pretty spot on. and who the fuck is dumb enough to use kaplan for bar prep? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425285) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: Hyperventilating Elastic Band Potus Cr, but on hard questions sometimes that flaw is that it's merely incomplete. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425338) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: grizzly blathering spot huh? post an example (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425278) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part i've noticed that we're told some answer choices are incorrect because they're "incomplete," and therefore, "not the best answer," in contrast with a choice that may be more complete (but also required a leap of faith / an assumption to draw the conclusion) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425290) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:16 PM Author: grizzly blathering spot post examples dude. dont try to extrapolate shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425295) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part nah man. i'm not going to go through my book to post examples to show you shitheads that some of these Qs suck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425324) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: Hyperventilating Elastic Band Potus Odd decision for someone asking for help. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425332) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part i'm in the middle of learning myself a state subject, not going to return to MBE book. just wanted to hear thoughts on something i noticed earlier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425361) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: Irradiated arrogant lay community account Why the fuck did you make this thread you lazy dipshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425333) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: grizzly blathering spot well then youre an idiot who cant figure out a test designed to weed out the bottom of the barrel in IQ. doubt anybody else here struggled with this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425336) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part poorly executed flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425364) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: Hyperventilating Elastic Band Potus Are you on level 6 difficulty? Those questions are insanely hard. If you can crush 3-4 you'll be fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425330) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part not doing barbri but i did a set of Qs that, on a scale of 1-3 (3 being most difficult), were all 3s. i got 56% correct. feeling bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425351) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:31 PM Author: Multi-colored orchestra pit queen of the night You doing Kaplan? A lot of the Kaplan, Barbri, etc. questions have misstated law. Even some of the videos and outlines have obvious errors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425415) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:44 PM Author: High-end home mad cow disease I remember one barbri question I got wrong and looked at a flash card I made and was like wtf that should be right. I went back and played the video I made that card off of and compared it to the code and the barbri guy said it totally wrong. Was pissed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425512) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part did you notice any difference between barbri Qs and real Qs? if so, what did you notice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425539) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: High-end home mad cow disease Some of the barbri questions are worded poorly and some try to trick you with ambiguity instead of a hard nuance like the real questions. I suggest doing some real questions before you go in there. I think there's a torrent with real questions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425608) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part what's the difference between hard nuance and ambiguity?
one of the type of Qs I hate are ones that ask, e.g., "if a jury finds Defendant liable, it is most likely because the court applied the
A) Modern approach B) Common law C) English Rule D) American Rule"
C and D could be ruled out because not related to the subject matter, but fuck if I know the difference between a modern approach and common law in some niche area |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:28 PM Author: High-end home mad cow disease Barbri tries to hide the ball on some questions to make them harder and you'll end up with a maybe between two answers depending on how you read the fact pattern, and the explanation will be like "this obviously meant the one way so B is correct." The real ones will have some exception to an exception that gets triggered by some detail buried in a bunch of other shit that looks like it's testing something else, but if you know the law on it really well you'll have an obvious answer choice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425777) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: mischievous faggot firefighter more likely to happen from a test prep company than actual bar question, but still rare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425780) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:19 PM Author: Frozen Legal Warrant On the MBE, some questions are dumb, and some test prep practice questions are really off. Not sure what company you're using, but I know that some show the breakdown of questions missed - so if you read their explanation and still think the answer is A, and see 50% of people also thought the answer was A, then you're probably okay as long as you understand why minimum wage test prep writer thought it was B.
On the essays, I saw at least one practice essay for my state that was just blatantly incorrect. It was in my practice area and the model answers completely mis-analyzed the issues IMO. I'd be interested to see if real graders would have given my (correct) answer a passing score, but my practice test grader did not.. |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part Subject: OK, here's a good example of a SPS question: https://imgur.com/a/XjuNn
A: Deny the motion, because no search occurred. B: Deny the motion, because fingerprinting is standard booking procedure and no warrant is necessary. C: Grant the motion, because the defendant did not consent. D: Grant the motion, if the defendant objected at the time the prints were taken. |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: High-end home mad cow disease A "Fingerprinting involves none of the probing into an individual's private life and thoughts that marks an interrogation or search." See Davis v. Mississippi, 394 U.S. 721, 727 (1969). |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 2:54 PM Author: Bistre Exhilarant Party Of The First Part yes, A is correct, but only 23% of respondents picked it. 73% picked B.
B is also *correct* but just less responsive to the prompt, although the whole thing is made confusing because the prompt says seizure and A only refers to a search |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: mischievous faggot firefighter but A implicitly presumes they would need a warrant if they did an actual search but can't you always do a search that is "incident to arrest?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35432912) |
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