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poetry seems like a lost art

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i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. ...
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especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.
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yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. ...
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I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as f...
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exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t...
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  02/17/18
there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a &...
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  02/17/18
The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the so...
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Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"
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rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry
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real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart peopl...
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120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd
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actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't...
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art is a lost art
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nigger: a poem
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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: Cheese-eating azure casino



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: Histrionic business firm rigpig

i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. people don't actually realize that "poems" are not just fractured paragraphs. many "poems" are just poorly-formatted chunks of text and don't actually represent anything poetic.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: Cheese-eating azure casino

especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: Histrionic business firm rigpig

yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. "poetry" used to be taught like a formal discipline, with textbooks. you'd have to learn about meter and rhyme-schemes and about literature in general, and about the elements of greco-roman mythology that crop up repeatedly in western poetry, and so on. in other words, formal stuff that you had to memorize and recite on tests. not just "write what you feel." it was considered laughable that someone would actually attempt to WRITE poems without a working understanding of what they actually were.



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Cheese-eating azure casino

I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as free as a lot of people think it is. There's still certain stylistic and metrical elements to it that have to be observed. It's not just prose with random line breaks/pauses

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Stubborn striped hyena

exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t.s. eliot who knows what they are doing. awful if it is written by some shitlib who just litters random phrases and punctuation across a page

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: Histrionic business firm rigpig

there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a "poem" involving a bit of text from a late-1800's geometry guide. someone discovered that one of the book's sentences could be formatted so that it followed the same rhyme-scheme as "in memorium" by tennyson:

"And hence no force, however great,

Can draw a cord, however fine,

Into a horizontal line

Which shall be absolutely straight."

that's the same meter as:

"I hold it true, whate'er befall;

I feel it when I sorrow most;

'Tis better to have loved and lost

Than never to have loved at all."

but yet, the geometry text is not really a "poem." it could plausibly be part of a larger poem, but by itself, it's not very meaningful, because it lacks a grander narrative.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: Dead fat ankles lodge

The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the sounds and succinctness appealed to the author without altogether knowing why.

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Onyx Yarmulke Hairy Legs



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: Hairless massive voyeur base

Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Cheese-eating azure casino

rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Zombie-like Chad



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: violent volcanic crater market

real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart people died out a long time ago.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: Cheese-eating azure casino

120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Histrionic business firm rigpig

actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't just scribble something down and run with it. even a very skilled, intelligent guy like keats would supposedly revise a single line 50+ times to get it right before offering stuff for publication.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Vigorous Bespoke Multi-billionaire Filthpig

Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers and poets

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:14 PM
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:10 PM
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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:03 PM
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Ultramarine Trip Chapel Dopamine

art is a lost art

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:15 PM
Author: cordovan abode
Subject: nigger: a poem

nigger.

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:17 PM
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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Onyx Yarmulke Hairy Legs



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