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I have made a decision on Honda vs Subaru (pics)
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base Sorry bloodacre, but my wife and I agree...the HONDA CR-V is our choice!
https://i.imgur.com/oZWdRui.jpg
We drove a 2018 CR-V LX 4WD and put a carseat in the back (passenger side) to simulate real world conditions. It was very easy to use the L.A.T.C.H. system to attach the carseat firmly. There was plenty of room in the back for a carseat, and we could easily see there was enough room in the back for two carseats if we were blessed with a second child one day.
Compared to our current Toyota Camry, we had an absurd amount of room. The cabin was SO spacious! Even with the carseat behind me, I had plenty of leg room in the front passenger side.
This was the console:
https://i.imgur.com/EDwdFgA.jpg
Note this little "Econ" button. If you press it, the fuel efficiency improves by 2 MPG. We pressed it.
https://i.imgur.com/KLFEOXD.jpg
Here is the spacious rear, with one of the seats down. We think we could fit a queen sized mattress back there
https://i.imgur.com/zUNIQK4.jpg
Finally, they popped the hood to see the 4-cylinder EARTHDREAMS engine
https://i.imgur.com/Ebv0GxO.jpg
We also test drove a Subaru Outback 2.5i...and it was a bit of a disappointment. The key points are:
(1) Much more interior cabin room in the Honda (2) Didn't look like we could comfortably fit TWO full sized car seats in the back of the Outback without significantly sacrificing leg room in the front seats (3) Wife and I both agreed that the Subaru was more "fun" to drive, but it simply did not meet our use case (4) Honda dealership seemed much friendlier and more competent than the Subaru dealership
We still need to try the Mazda CX-5...but it will be tough to beat the CR-V. |
Date: February 18th, 2018 3:01 PM Author: Doobsian Vivacious Senate What's the price you paid? Have a bet in your other thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431684) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base have not purchased anything yet. need to comparison shop car loans first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431690) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:15 PM Author: Doobsian Vivacious Senate jesus christ, what a cock tease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433489) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:21 PM Author: orange marvelous state Car loans? Prole tell! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434451) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:01 PM Author: Aqua internet-worthy laser beams I pray to God I never become this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431685) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:09 PM Author: high-end telephone ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431737) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 5:03 PM Author: Cyan mildly autistic theater stage ?
A person joyfully contemplating a family vehicle purchase with their spouse? |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 8:21 AM Author: Cerise national really tough guy hehe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35443556) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 5:56 PM Author: Talented Rebellious Sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432714) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:38 PM Author: maize box office voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434231) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:07 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434378) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: sexy splenetic selfie you're going to have crazy anal tonight,, son! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431691) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:57 PM Author: stimulating faggotry gaming laptop Men who drive small import SUVs tend to get pounded out most nights, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433324) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:00 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base Built in Ohio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433338) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:01 PM Author: stimulating faggotry gaming laptop Why did you get such a boring vehicle? If you have kids, why not a sport sedan or something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433345) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:02 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base We like the extra room of the CR-V. The interior cabin is huge! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433355) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: comical trailer park use truecar.com to get price quotes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431693) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:03 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base this is the plan, but only AFTER I line up financing
got good advice on how to comparison shop car loans? |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:11 PM Author: comical trailer park you can do it before. not sure why you are linking those two?
i got a quote from my credit union and then took a buyers check with the pre approved limit from them. i got quotes from truecar and emailed the dealers that i have preapproved financing and that unless they can match or beat it i will be going with my credit union. some of the dealers dropped out saying that true car quote was contingent on using their financing (violation of truecar quote terms but whatever). some would add couple hundred more or so to account for this. just went with the one who offered the best price and allowed me to use my own credit union financing. ($500 more than the truecar quote). still saved 2K more than advertised dealer price and 5k off MSRP |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:13 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base I don't have a credit union. should I get one?
for my mortgage there were a million websites that let me comparison shop mortgage lenders. surely this must exist for car loans? |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: comical trailer park just get autoloan quotes from your bank (citi or chase or BoA). credit unions offer the best rates usually so not a bad idea to sign up for a reputable one in your area
the most important thing you should do is to negotiate everything over email. dont even step into the car dealership unless you have agreed on everything and only to sign the paperwork. they will try to fuck you over on financing and if not that on dealer installed accessories
get financing and email the dealers. agree on a price and ask them to send you the dealer worksheet that shows the price, any dealer installed accessories/document charges, tax and registration and the FINAL out of the door cost. agree on all these items, total price and financing plan and only then even go to the dealership
if you go to the dealership and then negotiate on price/financing you lose.
its possible that dealers can sometime offer 0% interest rate but note that you wont usually get a big discount off MSRP then. so take that into account
but the key is to do everything over email and make sure that they reveal all the details and finalize them before you even enter a dealership |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:21 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base what is a "good" interest rate on a car loan for me, given my 800+ credit score? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431823) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: comical trailer park if you pay more than 3% (assuming 60 months loan) then you are getting fucked
right now my credit union is offering 2.49% for 48 months loan and 2.89% for upto 60 months
yours should be somewhere around there: 2~3%
dont even consider any financing that charges more than 3% with your 800+ score. you are getting scammed and the dealer/bank is making a killing by passing off your loan to underwriters for thousands of dollars of commission
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:26 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base thanks. is 60 month considered standard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431845) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:26 PM Author: comical trailer park yes most auto loans are for 60 months but you can go lower if you want and save on interest rate. dont go more than 60 months (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431852) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 5:13 PM Author: Aggressive shaky tank i can't remember if the dealer was running some kind of promotion or something, but they gave me 0% financing with my 770 not too long ago. not sure if that affected the price i paid on the car itself; either way, i still got a deal with which i was comfortable ($24k out the door on a car with a $26k msrp before ttl). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432492) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:13 PM Author: supple flushed mad cow disease But when do you test drive the car? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35438118) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: floppy plaza Nice. Def go with the crv over the mazda. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431706) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base it seems like the argument for the mazda is aesthetics, which we don't really care about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431710) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:08 PM Author: floppy plaza for me you cant go wrong with an outback or crv. IIRC the cx-5 isn't nearly as highly rated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431733) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:09 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base how can I get a great deal on a car loan. I have an 800+ credit score. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431738) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: floppy plaza i have no idea doesnt it just depend on what the dealership offers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431748) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:11 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base no, I want to line up financing before going to the dealer, so I can be a CASH BUYER (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431753) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: floppy plaza nice thats a good idea. i didnt think about that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431764) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: comical trailer park see above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431769) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:21 PM Author: startling roast beef son of senegal ARR CASH CRV BUYER (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431825) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: Racy locus would never finance a new car not through manufacturer captive finance corp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432222) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base yes but you can get preapproved with the captive finance corp before you set foot in the dealership (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432226) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: startling roast beef son of senegal why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432259) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:36 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base captive finance firms traditionally offer the best rates, but there's some shadyness because of their close relationship with dealerships (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432265) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: Racy locus not really much connection to dealer, more of a manufacturer incentive. This is how honda, toyota and mazda make most of their U.S. revenue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432315) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 5:06 PM Author: odious dilemma skinny woman Don't they fuck you on fees in the back end? I'd just go Costco on the car and have them haggle, they're usually better for cars that tend to sell well like the CR-V (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432455) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:07 PM Author: thirsty godawful kitchen fanboi Seems like Cash Buyer won't mean shit to the dealership on price. Probably will get a worse price than financing, IMO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433386) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:42 PM Author: floppy plaza the amount i put down on my subaru had zero effect on the rate. so i put nothing down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433636) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:06 PM Author: high-end telephone 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431718) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: Swashbuckling Jade Nowag Hell where do you live? Subarus are 180 in rain and snow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431723) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: Pearly domesticated legal warrant point decadent AND shrewd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431766) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:13 PM Author: Black location 190 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35431772) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:49 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432002) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: Milky galvanic lay doctorate Congrats! You're not a LESBO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432021) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:25 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base The more I look at the stats, the less I think I need to bother test driving the Mazda CX-5. It's got less interior space. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432192) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: Fighting irradiated market mexican Do you have to get maroon? Jeez What about the hrv |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base no that's just the test drive vehicle. though we don't care about color.
hr-v doesn't seem big enough for our needs |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: Racy locus y not RDX CPO? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432248) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base what are the advantages of a CPO RDX over a new 2018 CR-V? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432253) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:40 PM Author: Racy locus was facing similar decision, went with 2016 RDX CPO (very high miles, but still several years of warranty). Paid about 24k.
cr-v has more random tech, but wasn't too concerned about that. I think RDX got update in 2017.
Acura has better components, better performance, thought the interior was nice and a little more spacious and refined. Acura service department is much better.
Lot of people told me that Acura or Lexus will take care of you better over the long run than honda/toyota. |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: Sapphire buck-toothed brunch queen of the night Interesting that it has a keyed ignition (not DAT PUSH BUTTON START). Did you not max the trim level or is the CR-V just behind the times in the Honda lineup? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432341) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base this is the lowest trim level they sell. we don't need push button start.
it is standard on the Mazda CX-5, but not the Honda CR-V |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:54 PM Author: Sapphire buck-toothed brunch queen of the night Live a little, bro. Does it even have full leather interior at the TTT trim level? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432377) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:57 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base pimping out our car is not how we choose to live (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432397) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 5:00 PM Author: Sapphire buck-toothed brunch queen of the night Bump this when your kids puke/shit all over your cloth-covered interior and you're poasting from the waiting room at the cleaning company reading the fine print of their "no smell or it's free" guarantee. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432407) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 5:03 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base leather seats adds $4,000 to the MSRP and $5,000 to the TrueCar average (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432430) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: Cyan mildly autistic theater stage CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432443) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:45 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432958) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 6:04 PM Author: wonderful headpube cruise ship xo keys tls push button thingy |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 4:51 PM Author: iridescent charismatic old irish cottage How did the Subaru drive better? Its got 175hp. The Honda has 190. You didn't like the Honda suspension? The Mazda with 185hp falls in between. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432352) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 5:27 PM Author: Smoky bateful juggernaut range Get your financing and then just have absolute final price incl all fees etc. in your head and be ready to walk away. I did this to try to cop a gently used 17 CRV from the dealership and they will dance all around to try to get you to come up on price. If you are not desperate for a car and have a working car to use, you do not actually need a new car. Dont budge on your price.
Truecar is a good estimate but is just a scam for dealerships to uniformly jack up prices. Use it as a guidepost and look at local listings and come in below that. Make them show you their cost for the car...not "invoice" either because that shit is all fake and the manufacturer just builds in fake invoice prices to allow dealerships to pad sales.
Fuck with the poor salesman and tell him you just wont buy a car if you dont get your price. Make him take degradingly low offers back to the sales manager. Tell him shit like "well if it's not worth your time then dont take it back, I have to go to X dealership across town still this afternoon." |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 5:31 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base Definitely plan to line up financing first
The internet recommends emailing/calling each dealership and asking for the "internet manager" and asking that person for a quote, then use the lowest quote as leverage with all of the others, trying to get them to beat price etc.
There is nothing wrong with our Camry so we have flexibility to walk away. Our timeline to buy is "sometime this year" |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 5:48 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35432660) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:55 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433309) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:21 PM Author: Motley indian lodge main people Heinously ugly car with CVT. At least get a Lexus RX350 or Acura RDX. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433523) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:25 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base You gonna kick in the extra $10,000 so I can add unnecessary aesthetic improvements?
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:27 PM Author: Motley indian lodge main people CV-T is just a bad engine, man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433562) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:29 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base Seems just fine for commuting on well paved roads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433569) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:32 PM Author: Motley indian lodge main people Ok if you don’t care about the looks and you don’t care about the engine, all trolling aside the Cr-v is otherwise a reliable well designed car. I would get the trim with power seats and a power lift gate though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433583) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:32 PM Author: maroon dog poop locale CVT is a transmission, but yes, terrible and it will blow up and be expensive to replace. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433585) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:34 PM Author: Motley indian lodge main people Don’t want to nitpick but you’re right although I meant that continuously variable transmission engines are bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433596) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:37 PM Author: iridescent charismatic old irish cottage They are bad because they feel bad and can give uneven response not because they have mechanical reliability problems. CVTs today are as reliable as any torque converter automatic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433609) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:01 PM Author: Motley indian lodge main people (Nissan rogue salesman)
Google Nissan Rogue transmission |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:32 PM Author: Bossy Histrionic Home As a Subaru CVT owner, I feel like you have it almost completely backwards.
They do feel a little bit 'different', although I really disagree that it feels 'bad'. Like, if I'm on the interstate with the cruise pegged at 75, and I come up on a steep hill (the kind of hill where semis throw on their hazards because they can't do any more than like 50 or whatever), it's almost crazy to me how little drama the car exhibits in holding that speed. The engine and transmission will bear down a bit and the revs will go up to 2500 or maybe 2600, but that's it. It's just remarkable to me. My car is supposed to be one of the most underpowered cars out there, but it never really feels like it's getting its' ass kicked.
I know auto journalists tend to shit on CVTs because of the 'feel' of them but quite frankly I think all those impressions are misguided. Or at least perhaps the Nissan ones are worse than the Subaru ones.
And as for your assertion that "CVTs today are as reliable as any torque converter automatic"... I mean, you might be sort of correct in saying that... the problem with CVTs though is that they are so complicated that *nobody* repairs them in situ. Instead, if you have a problem with your CVT, your only option is to do a complete replacement with a new/used/remanufactured unit. And the problem with that is (at least with Subarus) the cost of all those options are hideously expensive. We're talking like $7-10k.
Luckily for owners such as myself, Subaru has extended the warranty on basically all the CVTs they made from 2010-2015 to 10 years / 100k miles, so I do have some peace of mind for another few years.
Normal automatic transmissions can be repaired much more inexpensively. And even if replacement were required on a normal automatic tranny, the cost wouldn't be quite as nuts as the CVTs are |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:43 PM Author: floppy plaza did something change in 2016? 2016 outback owner here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434545) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:52 PM Author: Bossy Histrionic Home I don't know. All I know is that the decision to extend that warranty came out this past summer, and applied to 2010 to 2015. Mine is a 2011.
I see some high-mileage 2015s on Autotrader for like $18k and I just feel really bad for the people that think that's a good deal... they would be way better off with a low mileage 2010-2012 for sub $15k
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Date: February 19th, 2018 12:09 AM Author: Bossy Histrionic Home I wish I had better data.
The whole situation seems a bit odd. Like, there really doesn't seem to be very many people complaining on the forums about their transmissions going out.
It almost seems to me as though Subaru would have been better off doing a production run of trannys & priced them so that they'd be affordable for replacement vs. doing this extended warranty thing |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:35 PM Author: iridescent charismatic old irish cottage It will blow up at 100,000 miles. Relax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433599) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:41 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base 5 year powertrain warranty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35433635) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:05 PM Author: floppy plaza nothing is more GC flame than buying a luxury compact suv. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434367) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:08 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess Not really. It has a use case, even if it isn't theirs. If we could fit into a Porsche Macan Turbo or Mercedes GLC 63 AMG, it would save quite a bit of cash. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434382) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:14 PM Author: floppy plaza this post is confusing. it was save money to buy a $90k compared to owning a...?
And why can't you fot into one? i thought you were both relatively small, childless people. |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:28 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess Large dog, plus like to take road trips, plus probably having kids in the next few years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434480) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:30 PM Author: floppy plaza interesting. do you go camping? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434487) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:32 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess We rent cabins but don't do legit camping. We did that several times before many years ago but realized we never really enjoyed it as much as getting a nice cabin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434495) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:34 PM Author: floppy plaza i think im prob the same. i like being outdoors, making a fire etc. But that doesn't mean i have to sleep on the ground like a goy.
what are some cr places to rent a cabin? |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:36 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess We went to Woodstock, NY last year and absolutely loved it.
Also, dealing with tents, carrying equipment as you hike, etc. just sucks. You can car camp, but having a nice shower and wifi is still preferable.
If you were a REAL Jew you wouldn't leave urban areas unless you absolutely had to. |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:37 PM Author: floppy plaza ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434514) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:21 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base So what I've learned from this thread is that XO is full of sad people who try to fill holes in their life with premium car features. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434156) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:24 PM Author: Cyan mildly autistic theater stage That's perhaps overly harsh; a lot of people spend a lot of time in their cars, and other people may see it semi-regularly too, so they want the car to be nice.
That said, I agree that for the most part fancy cars are fucking flame. |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:25 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base I posted some pictures of the interior of the base model CR-V LX, it's not so bad. It's got some cool looking knobs and when you press the "Econ" button a green flower appears on the dashboard. Would not be ashamed of showing it to people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434179) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:36 PM Author: Cyan mildly autistic theater stage What does the Econ button actually do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434219) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:38 PM Author: sexy splenetic selfie you become a doctor of economics for the wise purchase. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434226) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:38 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base It lowers engine performance to increase fuel efficiency. We plan to drive with the econ button "on" at all times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434227) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:39 PM Author: Bossy Histrionic Home Probably just makes the throttle less responsive
The claimed 2mpg improvement is likely illusory unless you're a totally shit driver |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:57 PM Author: floppy plaza agreed that car features that dont enhance the driving experience are complete flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434332) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:03 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base but even compared to you, I care less about "the driving experience" because to me the destination and the people in the car with you are what's most important (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434362) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:06 PM Author: floppy plaza true, windows down on a summer night, your best girl by your side, headed to the diner. 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434373) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:09 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess This is like a Mazda commercial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434386) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:10 PM Author: floppy plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434390) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:18 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base the more I research, the less I want to bother with the Mazda CX-5.
It has a higher total cost of ownership and less interior space. Nobody ranks it ahead of the CR-V. Main argument for the Mazda seems to be interior trim which I don't really care about. |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:27 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess Not really my point, more that every time I see a Mazda commercial it is some bullshit about people singing to music in a car and nothing about the actual car. This, of course, is the same BS you're espousing. If you dgaf about the actual car then not sure why you're making this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434476) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:34 PM Author: floppy plaza zoom zoom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434504) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:34 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base I simply care that the car meets my use case. I don't care about extra doo-dads or levels of performance that I will never require. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434505) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:38 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess If you can't have fun with fast cars then something is wrong with you as a man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434517) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:39 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base I prefer a good board game with friends to driving a car really fast. There's something so uncivilized about driving a car fast, the terrible noises the engine makes, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434526) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:42 PM Author: floppy plaza might as well just turn in your cock and balls now! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434539) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:53 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess Flame? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434618) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:55 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base 100% not flame. a car is just a tool to get from Point A to Point B.
Our use case for this car:
(1) My wife will use it to commute to work in heavy traffic on weekdays (2) We will use it to visit my in-laws on weekends and for errands like getting the groceries (3) It must fit our soon-to-be-born baby and carseat comfortably in the back, and a second carseat if needed (we hope to have 2 kids) (4) Occasionally we may take it on roadtrip vacations, but often we rent a car for these to avoid running up the miles
that's it. no need for it to go really fast or be used for recreational driving. |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 12:05 AM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess Geez, this is a depressing, joyless way of thinking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434711) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 12:05 AM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base I have plenty of fun in my life. It just doesn't come from a car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434719) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 12:06 AM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess Board games? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434726) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 12:07 AM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base and, frankly, I don't see what is so boring about the Honda CR-V LX. It's still comfortable to sit, the radio still plays my favorite songs, the climate control still makes me more comfortable than I would be outside, I can still see out the window and look at the wonderful world around me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434737) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 12:08 AM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess Something about all this seems flamey... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35434739) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:09 PM Author: Cyan mildly autistic theater stage Why? I don't get why it's hard to grasp at all. He derives enjoyment from relationships and experiences rather than some possession. That seems ideal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35438102) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: floppy plaza people derive pleasure from different things mang. it seems desirable to not care much about cars. they are just about always a terrible investment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35438387) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:34 PM Author: Bossy Histrionic Home I love my Outback but I'm increasingly wary of the CVTs they use, to the point that I'm not sure I'd recommend one to people who want to own one with the intention of driving one into the ground. IMO if you're going to own one it's probably best to get out of it before 100k miles, sadly.
Luckily for me I've put light mileage on mine so far |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:49 AM Author: pearl pervert institution Lol @ not buying a stick shift (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35435879) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 1:25 PM Author: Bossy Histrionic Home They killed the manual on the Outback a few years ago. Last year you could get them was 2014 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35437347) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 1:27 PM Author: floppy plaza should have gotten a wrx. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35437364) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 11:33 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base This is now the biggest thread of the day on XO
<3 |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:44 AM Author: wonderful headpube cruise ship xo has been eagerly waiting this decision for days. Very exciting to live vicariously through you brother, it felt like I was actually *at* the Honda dealership (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35435863) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:47 AM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base ty. having slept on it, I really do think I made the right decision.
over the next few weeks, I am going to make literally dozens of threads about my experience shopping for a car loan. enjoy! |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 1:18 PM Author: floppy plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35437303) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35437895) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: supple flushed mad cow disease How do you agree on price/financing with dealership BEFORE stepping foot there, when do you test drive the car? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35438133) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:17 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base (1) Research cars online. Pick 2-3 models you think you are interested in buying.
(2) Go to the closest dealership, test drive the models you want. Tell salespeople you're not ready to buy. Decide which model you are buying.
(3) Get preapproved for a car loan at a bank, credit union, or captive finance company.
(4) Email or call all the dealers in your area to get their price on that model. Take the lowest bid you get and share it with the others, telling them to beat it. Go to the dealer that offered lowest price and buy car there. |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: supple flushed mad cow disease Are dealerships receptive when you tell them you’re just there to test drive cars, not buy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35438169) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:31 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35438259) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:59 AM Author: wonderful headpube cruise ship Yes because everyone says that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35443239) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 7:24 PM Author: maniacal amethyst regret You can probably get a lower price by going in to the one that gave you the best bid and trying to negotiate lower, but don't disclose that you'd already been in communication with them. Worst case, you take the offer they made via email/phone. Best case, you get them even lower. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35440003) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 8:26 AM Author: Arrogant Multi-colored Space A lot of dealers just won't respond to email inquiries these days, or at least that's my experience. I was still able to get a sub-TrueCar price on my last buy, but it can be frustrating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35443571) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 8:27 AM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base What did you do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35443572) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 8:34 AM Author: Arrogant Multi-colored Space I played the game for a little bit - some were like "we can't give you a price, but we'll match, etc., etc.," others were begging me to come in, calling me on the phone, etc.
I did find one who was willing to talk over email and I mostly just worked with him. I tried to use his offer as leverage over others, but it was taking forever since dealers know what's going on and they don't see you as a high priority. In the end I really needed a new car and the trim I was going for (V6 Accord) was being discontinued, so I couldn't wait around forever. I realized the deal I was being offered was good enough after a few back and forths with the cooperative dealer and took it. I probably could've squeezed another few hundred out if I really wanted to. If you're negotiating with a TrueCar dealer, you can use that as a starting off price - find out what it would be on TC, then ask them to come in lower. If they do, you know you're already getting a decent deal.
I live in a very high volume area though. In other areas dealers will be much more receptive to any potential buyer.
I think your overall plan is pretty good actually. |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 8:36 AM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base Thanks - thankfully, I am in no hurry to buy a car and can afford to wait it out. And they're not discontinuing the CR-V LX anytime soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35443597) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 8:43 AM Author: Arrogant Multi-colored Space If you're so concerned with price, why are you going for the 18? Seems like you should be targeting 17s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35443616) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base You'd think so, but Hondas depreciate so little in year 1 that it serms to be a better deal to cop dat 2018 with better warranty coverage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35444643) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:38 PM Author: Big zippy church building water buffalo This shit is toxic.
That said, you should definitely get the one with CarPlay (the one with the bigger/better screen). I don’t think the lowest end crv has it. |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:11 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base No, it doesn't have this feature. Why exactly do I need it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35438955) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:39 AM Author: Big zippy church building water buffalo it let’s you use your iphone as your car's infotainment system. you can dictate texts, listen to spotify, control your phone, etc, through the car while you drive. there’s an android equivalent, too, if you use android. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35443182) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 8:20 AM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base And this is worth several thousand dollars? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35443554) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 8:32 AM Author: wonderful headpube cruise ship Hands-free poasting from the interstate. It's a game changer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35443584) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: Big zippy church building water buffalo it is to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35445048) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35439947) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 9:40 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35448840) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 9:42 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess For someone that doesn't care about material goods, you seem remarkably focused on this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35448857) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:08 PM Author: floppy plaza why are you so angry at his car? you sound like earl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35449136) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:36 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess I understand people who just don't get and don't know about cars. But feeling pride in a shit car is bizarre and rubs me the wrong way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35449414) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:37 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base more like pride in a good decision (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35449421) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:43 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess The only way it is a "good" decision is if you don't really care about the decision which you obviously do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35449483) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:44 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base ?
The Honda CR-V is the highest-rated car that meets my use case and comes at a very reasonable price with few extras I don't need. Should I not be happy that I found it? |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:49 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess You should shrug and carry on with your life. You saved money by avoiding spending on a good car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35449523) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:50 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base (Ford Escape salesman) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35449531) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:57 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess LOL, you don't even know what a good car is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35449594) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:58 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base lol my current car is a 2009 Toyota Camry. Do you know how much better the 2018 Honda CR-V feels and handles than my current ride? My new CR-V is going to be a huge improvement in dashboard features, comfort, and of course interior cabin space. It's going to improve my car life in every single way.
The CR-V is literally going to bring me years of joy. |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:59 PM Author: chrome self-absorbed mad-dog skullcap jewess You're so flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35449608) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 11:29 PM Author: Fuchsia Boyish Base the best part is, I have literally months of Honda content planned out. All I've done so far is researched the car online and taken a test drive. There's gonna be an entire story arc where I apply for financing and rate shop between lenders. Then there's going to be car price negotiations with the dealer. Than getting vanity plates.
All I've done so far is researched and test driven the CR-V and already I have gotten 300+ poasts in all the threads about it combined. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:33 AM Author: floppy plaza vanity plates? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35450978) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:54 PM Author: glittery salmon stage cumskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896808&forum_id=2#35449570) |