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Kaplan user, first time taker in state where 264 is passing ...
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/18/18
Ha yep. I would just cancel now. Study harder for July.
massive bawdyhouse
  02/18/18
explain
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/18/18
waited to long to study essays, so wont pass them mbe sco...
massive bawdyhouse
  02/18/18
This
Disrespectful school cafeteria
  02/18/18
And don't wait till the last week to learn essays.
Boyish big-titted knife
  02/18/18
goddammit you're right, kind of. i've gone over all the subj...
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/18/18
...
adventurous background story orchestra pit
  02/18/18
Yep. You should be getting almost every mbe question right.
Chocolate Racy Stock Car Deer Antler
  02/18/18
If you're not in line for a 150+ MBE then you're fucked. Th...
mint private investor degenerate
  02/18/18
Cr. I was in a similar spot and failed because of essays
Boyish big-titted knife
  02/18/18
how so? 132 mbe means i just need 132 on essays, which is...
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/18/18
Jesus. First time taker?
gay marvelous trump supporter
  02/18/18
didn't take last july. death in immediate family.
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/18/18
i passed it first time and didn't start looking at barbri un...
Carnelian Round Eye Fat Ankles
  02/18/18
That's way more than 9 days
Titillating filthpig
  02/18/18
yeah i posted a lot too. it wasn't even close.
Carnelian Round Eye Fat Ankles
  02/18/18
I'd just drill the MBE as much as possible and hope for the ...
Aggressive corn cake skinny woman
  02/18/18
i forgot all percentages in Emanuel's but fwiw, maybe not mu...
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/18/18
I found barbri to be noticeably harder than the real thing. ...
Aggressive corn cake skinny woman
  02/18/18
no crossover in my state, unfortunately taking Emanuel's...
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/18/18
Study 15 hours a day (1 hour for food/shower/coffee) for nex...
razzmatazz mauve gunner
  02/18/18
that's basically the plan. i made a schedule. it's outlining...
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/18/18
you’re going to be fine
high-end parlor
  02/19/18
i hope so. i tell myself the average test taker passes, and ...
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/19/18
...
copper athletic conference school
  02/19/18
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Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/19/18
Are you familiar with JD-advantaged jobs?
Cobalt big forum milk
  02/19/18
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Trip geriatric point striped hyena
  02/19/18
lol
yellow theater
  02/19/18
120
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/19/18
...
adventurous background story orchestra pit
  02/22/18
9 days is plenty of time. Do 200-300 MBE questions a day an...
effete brass personal credit line dragon
  02/19/18
What if op isn't T14?
Buff mexican
  02/19/18
joe seperac's predictor tool (lsat, school rank, gpa, etc) g...
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/19/18
Do more MBE questions. You MUST do 2000 questions between t...
effete brass personal credit line dragon
  02/19/18
...
Crimson abode
  02/19/18
...
Bateful mischievous affirmative action gaping
  02/19/18
I failed 3 times but I have good excuses for 2 of them. The ...
thirsty kitty
  02/19/18
i did it in 3 weeks of gakked-out study, and i'm mildly reta...
Bateful mischievous affirmative action gaping
  02/19/18
All very credited. Another master procrastinator here. Hel...
effete brass personal credit line dragon
  02/19/18
...
Crimson abode
  02/19/18
...
electric brunch laser beams
  02/19/18
...
contagious friendly grandma
  02/20/18
lean sheets fam
stirring saffron piazza queen of the night
  02/20/18
Reading model essays after briefly outline and I'm spotting ...
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/20/18
Copped a 64% on Emanuel's 6th Edition (includes Civ Pro Qs)....
Know-it-all Lodge Depressive
  02/22/18
I hope so, for your sake
Hideous Arousing Theater Stage Azn
  02/22/18
...
Cobalt big forum milk
  02/22/18
lean sheets
stirring saffron piazza queen of the night
  02/22/18
Update?
garnet low-t ticket booth sex offender
  03/01/18


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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:11 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

Kaplan user, first time taker in state where 264 is passing

115/200 on MBE midterm

112/200 on MBE final (supposed to be much tougher than midterm)

TLS spreadsheets show that people with these scores often end up with scaled MBE of 132-141

67% on Kaplan Con Law (300 qs) / 85% on Emanuel's previously released Con Law (52 Qs)

66% on Kaplan Crim Law / Procedure (200 Qs) / 77% on Emanuel's previously released Crim (55 Qs)

65% on Kaplan Civ Pro (300 qs) / 72% on Emanuel's (45 Qs)

63% on Kaplan Torts (300 qs)

59% on Kaplan Contracts (200 qs)

54% on Kaplan Evidence (200 qs)

48% on Kaplan Property (150 qs)

I feel confident about two state essay subjects; OK about one; unsure on the others (either haven't reviewed or haven't started to learn)

exam is in 9 days

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433066)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:12 PM
Author: massive bawdyhouse

Ha yep. I would just cancel now. Study harder for July.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433071)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:12 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433079)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: massive bawdyhouse

waited to long to study essays, so wont pass them

mbe scores are too low to make up the difference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433140)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:31 PM
Author: Disrespectful school cafeteria

This

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433175)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:23 PM
Author: Boyish big-titted knife

And don't wait till the last week to learn essays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433127)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

goddammit you're right, kind of. i've gone over all the subjects they test at least 50% of the time, but haven't outlined all the old prompts yet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433511)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: adventurous background story orchestra pit



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Chocolate Racy Stock Car Deer Antler

Yep. You should be getting almost every mbe question right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433240)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: mint private investor degenerate

If you're not in line for a 150+ MBE then you're fucked. They'll gape you on the essays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433107)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: Boyish big-titted knife

Cr. I was in a similar spot and failed because of essays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433119)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

how so?

132 mbe means i just need 132 on essays, which is four fours and two twos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433519)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: gay marvelous trump supporter

Jesus. First time taker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433108)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

didn't take last july. death in immediate family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433534)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:21 PM
Author: Carnelian Round Eye Fat Ankles

i passed it first time and didn't start looking at barbri until after eating 4th july bbq.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433114)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: Titillating filthpig

That's way more than 9 days

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433188)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Carnelian Round Eye Fat Ankles

yeah i posted a lot too. it wasn't even close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433243)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:26 PM
Author: Aggressive corn cake skinny woman

I'd just drill the MBE as much as possible and hope for the best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433552)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

i forgot all percentages in Emanuel's but fwiw, maybe not much, I'm over 60% on all previously released Qs---often over 70%. some people say Kaplan Qs are harder than the real thing while released MBE Qs are easier than the modern Qs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433567)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: Aggressive corn cake skinny woman

I found barbri to be noticeably harder than the real thing.

Also depending on the state studying for mbe will also have crossover into essays so you get more bang for your buck knowing torts, etc. than state trusts and estate law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433595)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

no crossover in my state, unfortunately

taking Emanuel's final (all real MBE qs) on Wednesday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433608)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: razzmatazz mauve gunner

Study 15 hours a day (1 hour for food/shower/coffee) for next week, then day before get into a good sleep routine

I'd say you're a 50/50 chance but if you really put in 15 hours over a week you might be able to scrape together enough points



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433564)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

that's basically the plan. i made a schedule. it's outlining the rest of my state subject essays and drilling worst MBE subjects until saturday. sunday & monday, going over all state subjects outlines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35433572)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 2:08 AM
Author: high-end parlor

you’re going to be fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35435287)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

i hope so. i tell myself the average test taker passes, and i may not have been putting in as many hours as the average test taker, but i can't be in the bottom quartile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35436244)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 1:45 AM
Author: copper athletic conference school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35435191)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 2:11 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive



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Date: February 19th, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: Cobalt big forum milk

Are you familiar with JD-advantaged jobs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35437715)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Trip geriatric point striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35438008)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: yellow theater

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35438020)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

120

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35438333)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: adventurous background story orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35459966)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: effete brass personal credit line dragon

9 days is plenty of time. Do 200-300 MBE questions a day and read the answers, and then read essays for 2-4 hours depending on your stamina. Shoot for 275/day which is 2500, which is plenty if you read the answers. Always read the answers and figure out what you got wrong. It's like learning to do multiplication and division in your head. You have to drill hard, but for most people who get into a T14 doing 9 super intense days is better than doing 3 half-assed weeks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35438420)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Buff mexican

What if op isn't T14?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35438601)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:02 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

joe seperac's predictor tool (lsat, school rank, gpa, etc) gave me a 94% chance at passing, fwiw, but i didn't attend a t-14

also, goddamn, 275 MBE a day is crazy. that's like, what, 7 hours PLUS review (another couple hours) plus outlining essays?

my plan is still 50 Qs a day, 1 more full-length MBE, outlining all previous state essays---going back 10 years---on subjects tested >20% of the timing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35438908)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: effete brass personal credit line dragon

Do more MBE questions. You MUST do 2000 questions between today and test day. Don't fucking outline essays. Just read them and write the issues down in 5-10 word phrases and then read the answers. Read as many answers as possible, and do a subject a night and then cram them all the last two nights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35439040)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: Crimson abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35439085)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: Bateful mischievous affirmative action gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35439031)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: thirsty kitty

I failed 3 times but I have good excuses for 2 of them. The first one I didn't study much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35438944)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: Bateful mischievous affirmative action gaping

i did it in 3 weeks of gakked-out study, and i'm mildly retarded.

your starting point is fine given you have 9 days left. keep plugging away, don't be a faggot about it, don't question yourself, don't quit. if you stop swimming you'll drown.

adderall xr helps.

lectures are 100% flame and should be skipped, reading outlines is 95% flame. skim the outline very, very quickly ONCE ever before you start hitting questions. you can return to the outline to figure out why you answered a question incorrectly. other than initial review + figuring out where you fucked up, reading outlines is a great way to wrongly convince yourself you know the subject when you're actually clueless.

even if you pay no attention to any other advice: *****spend as much time taking questions as possible.***** (and subsequently figuring out where you went wrong.)

focus on the subjects that come up most frequently and on the areas you find easiest (most pleasant?) to shore up. the quick improvements will reduce your anxiety so you can move on to the less important and less pleasant subjects.

good luck, and bump this thread when you get your results.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35439027)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: effete brass personal credit line dragon

All very credited. Another master procrastinator here. Hello, game, I'm also game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35439044)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: Crimson abode



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Date: February 19th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: electric brunch laser beams



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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:02 AM
Author: contagious friendly grandma



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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:19 AM
Author: stirring saffron piazza queen of the night

lean sheets fam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35442701)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

Reading model essays after briefly outline and I'm spotting errors in law---not made by the test prep co., but by the students. Feeling good about that. Still, not sure how these fucks write two pages worth of shit in 40 minutes when I run out of things to say after 10 bullet points.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35445469)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:08 AM
Author: Know-it-all Lodge Depressive

Copped a 64% on Emanuel's 6th Edition (includes Civ Pro Qs). That's a 128/200 raw; or about a 136-142 scaled. My weakest areas are still my weakest areas, by a noticeable margin---so, while not cramming state shit, I know where my focus my energy on the MBE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35459826)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:14 AM
Author: Hideous Arousing Theater Stage Azn

I hope so, for your sake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35459848)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: Cobalt big forum milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35459959)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: stirring saffron piazza queen of the night

lean sheets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35460221)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: garnet low-t ticket booth sex offender

Update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896998&forum_id=2#35513684)