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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Motley Crusty Garrison

Cliffs:

-Chicago bakery employed hundreds of illegal immigrants, got cracked down on by TRUMP. Most of the illegals fled.

-Bakery forced to employ local citizens instead, mostly African-Americans, and they earned $4 more per hour than the illegals did.

-Unfortunately, they were also less efficient workers and more likely to quit

-So, the company is scrambling to get more Hispanic workers, but now there's a huge racial and linguistic divide. Also, the black workers tend to call ICE on the Hispanic workers

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/at-major-northwest-side-bakery-labor-issues-pit-blacks-vs-hispanics/amp/

A major bakery on the Northwest Side once known for making Little Debbie snack cakes was sold earlier this month after an immigration audit cost the company about a third of its workers.

About 800 employees of the main Cloverhill Bakery on the Northwest Side and the company’s bakeries in Cicero and Romeoville lost their jobs when the audit found many were hired after presenting fake or stolen IDs.

The owner of Little Debbie walked away, saying its orders no longer were getting filled on time by Cloverhill, and revenues fell for the bakery’s corporate owner, the Swiss food conglomerate Aryzta.

Finally, Aryzta had enough and sold the bakeries. Hostess Brands said it’s buying Cloverhill’s Chicago bakery from Aryzta.

Some might see what happened at Cloverhill as a sign of things to come under the Trump administration, with fears in corporate America and among immigrants of increased government crackdowns.

But the story of the 137,000-square-foot bakery in Galewood on the Northwest Side of Chicago appears to be more complicated than that. It precedes the Trump administration and involves tensions between African American and Hispanic workers, according to current and former employees, a former company consultant and a worker activist group.

“They’re being pitted against each other, so they don’t get along,” says Dan Giloth, a community organizer on the West Side. “We believe this is a divide-and-conquer strategy.

“Unfortunately in Chicago, there is a widespread segregationist employment model to contract out most of your production work through temporary agencies and look the other way when they target employees by race or immigration status,” says Giloth, a former union organizer who is project manager for the group Coalition Against Segregation of Employees. “The goal is to create a very vulnerable workforce — and keep the wages low.”

Tracy Stecko, a spokesman for Aryzta, declined to comment except to say, “Our company briefly owned that bakery operation but no longer does, so you may want to ask your questions to more appropriate parties, such as ICE or the union that is the legal ‎bargaining representative for most workers at that bakery.”

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement hasn’t responded to a request, filed months ago, for public records on the audit, and a spokeswoman for the agency wouldn’t comment.

Nor would representatives of the temporary-employment companies that provide workers to Cloverhill.

A Hostess spokeswoman didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Aryzta bought Cloverhill in 2014. At the time, according to bakery employees and community organizers, most of the employees were natives of Mexico, most who’d been hired through Labor Network, a temporary-employment agency.

But many of those workers weren’t temporary in the dictionary sense of the word. Most were so-called “permatemps” — temp workers who actually were permanently employed at Cloverhill. Most had been there for years, at least, and some for decades.

In 2015, under the Obama administration, ICE inspected the documentation of Labor Network’s employees at Cloverhill. In May 2017, the Trump administration sent letters to about 800 employees, saying they weren’t authorized to work in the United States, records examined by the Chicago Sun-Times show.

Those Hispanic employees didn’t return to work, leaving the bakery desperate to fill their jobs. So the company turned to another placement agency, Metro Staff Inc., and it provided Cloverhill with workers screened through the government’s “E-Verification” program. Most of those new employees are African American.

Ed French, owner of Elgin-based Metro Staff Inc., says his company became the main provider of workers for the bakery and that about 80 percent of them are black. According to French, workers at the bakery were paid slightly less before his company was hired two and a half years ago — with wages up by about 25 cents an hour, to just above minimum wage.

He says everyone hired through his company is permitted to work in the country and has passed a background check and drug test.

According to a former consultant to the bakery, MSI paid the black workers $14 an hour, versus the $10 an hour the Mexican workers were making through Labor Network.

The consultant, Felix Okwusa, says the bakery offered its remaining Hispanic workers a $1-an-hour premium to train the black replacement workers.

But Okwusa says Cloverhill soon ran into problems. In a memo to the company, Okwusa, who is African American, wrote that the black workers “displayed a higher turnover rate of over 40 percent and a lower efficiency rate than their Hispanic co-workers.”

Okwusa included his memo in a lawsuit he has filed against Aryzta in an effort to recover a bonus he says he was promised. Aryzta won’t comment.

“One of the facts of the case — and a reality in America — is that the immigrants do the work for less than an American will,” says Okwusa’s lawyer, George Oparanozie. “It shows the dynamics of immigration in this country. Many of these Hispanic workers have been here a long time, pay taxes in a lot of instances, and many of them could now be kicked out of the country.”

Attorneys who represent undocumented immigrants say they haven’t heard of any former Cloverhill employees being placed in detention for deportation to Mexico.

In the past, most of the workers at Cloverhill were Hispanic. Now, most are black.

Union steward Lynne Lane says black workers at Cloverhill reported Mexican workers to immigration officials. | Michelle Kanaar / Sun-Times

Lynne Lane, a union steward at Cloverhill, says there are tensions as the two groups work side by side. Lane, who is black, says it was black workers at the bakery who called a government hotline to report the Mexican workers to immigration authorities.

“It was [African American] workers in the plant that saw, you know, like I said, that had been treated unfairly and treated like secondary-class citizens” by Hispanic workers, Lane says. “So it was a whole lot of employees in the company. Well, they was given a number, as far as I know. They was given a number to call … to call Immigration.”

ICE would not say why the audit of the bakery’s workers began.

Lane started working at the Chicago bakery as a packer at the end of 2015. Now, she tracks waste in the bakery’s production of Danishes.

Black workers couldn’t communicate well with Spanish-speaking Mexican workers and supervisors, according to Lane, who blames the company for the resulting confusion.

“When I first started, and when they first put me in as a packer, I asked the question, ‘Do they speak English?’ ” she says. “And they said: ‘Everybody.’ But when I went to communicate with them, no one spoke English.”

Lane says she also felt Mexican workers got better assignments and weren’t required to work as hard as black workers.

Still, she says she also feels solidarity with Mexican employees — over pay and the long hours required of everyone.

“You’re thinking this agency is paying the same as the next agency, and you come to find out one’s paying $11, and . . . the other one’s paying $14, and here we is, and one is paying $10 something, and . . . we all doing the same job. That’s unfair.”

She says she works 12 hours a day, six days a week, and only recently was able to take Sundays off to go to church.

“I go to work at 2 a.m., get off at 2 p.m., go home at about 3 — I’m asleep at about 5 or 6,” says Lane. “I get up the next night to go back to work. The pay is OK. I’m not complaining about that. … It’s mainly the hours. You have to be on your feet 12 hours a day with steel-toed boots on.”

Lane estimates that 90 percent of the workers in the Chicago bakery were Hispanic when she started working about two years ago and now about 90 percent of the workers are black.

A Hispanic woman who formerly worked at the bakery says the ICE audit cost her husband his job. But she says she didn’t feel tension between Hispanic and black workers because, “In the time that I worked there, honestly, I didn’t see any black workers. They came later.”

She says she came to the United States in 2001 from Hidalgo, Mexico, and heard about the bakery from uncles in Chicago. She worked as a packer from 2001 until she got pregnant in 2008. Her husband worked there from 2000 until he was forced out because of the ICE audit.

The woman asked that her name not be used because she crossed the border without documentation and fears she might get in trouble with immigration officials.

In an interview in Spanish, she says the long hours at the bakery were tough, but says, “We had no other choices.”

Since her husband was fired, “The truth is that it has been very hard,” she says. “He’s had jobs where he was not paid or the check bounced. He’s unemployed now.”

The ICE audit was devastating, she says: “We knew we could not prove he had authorization to work. We felt disappointed. Seventeen years working there, and suddenly they tell you this?”

Giloth, the community organizer, says other Chicago-area factories also have used temp agencies to recruit Hispanic workers over black workers. He points to Ferrara Candy Co. in Forest Park, which was sued in 2013 by black job applicants who said they were passed up for jobs given to Latino applicants.

Ferrara settled for $1.5 million, according to court records. Nearly 900 potential black employees were eligible to share in the fund, with the rest of the money to go to the West Side Health Authority, which Giloth is affiliated with, to provide job training for African Americans.

“They were marketing aggressively to the African American community but shutting them out of jobs,” Giloth says of Ferrara Candy. “We met with them, and they said they would make this right.”

Ald. Chris Taliaferro: “if you try to get in to Cloverhill, it’s like you need top-secret government clearance.” | Brian Jackson / Sun-Times files

Ald. Chris Taliaferro, whose 29th Ward includes the Cloverhill bakery on the Northwest Side, says he has heard complaints from workers there but has had little contact with bakery executives.

Under Aryzta, Taliaferro says, the owners didn’t communicate with his office, unlike other major employers in the ward he points to, including Radio Flyer and a Mars candy factory.

“Cloverhill is very shut off,” Taliaferro says, adding that he hopes to have better relations with Hostess. “With Radio Flyer and Mars, I could go in any time I want. But if you try to get in to Cloverhill, it’s like you need top-secret government clearance.”

Ald. Gilbert Villegas: “Everybody who wants to work should have a fair opportunity and not be taken advantage of.”. | Rich Hein / Sun-Times

Ald. Gilbert Villegas (36th) says he has met with immigrant workers at Cloverhill about the bakery, which is across the street from his ward boundary, and has been working with Communities United, an organization that helps immigrants.

Villegas says blacks have been pitted against Hispanics in the day-labor world “for quite some time. African-Americans were discriminated against because day-labor agencies knew they could take advantage of the undocumented workers. Everybody who wants to work should have a fair opportunity and not be taken advantage of.”

Villegas says companies that hire the day-labor agencies also shoulder some blame.

“Those companies that participate in that type of practice need to be held accountable, too,” he says. “They should be treating everybody the same way, regardless of their status. They’re pitting one ethnicity versus another. It’s just not right.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35438447)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Domesticated set

Cut to the chase: Will they bake a phallus cake for a gay wedding or not?

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:04 PM
Author: impressive stead persian

“They’re being pitted against each other, so they don’t get along,” says Dan Giloth, a community organizer on the West Side. “We believe this is a divide-and-conquer strategy.

no this is diversity

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:04 PM
Author: avocado nursing home associate

So basically illegal immigration is depressing wages and black are shitty workers?

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: soggy chapel internal respiration

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: Abnormal house-broken locale dopamine

i'm glad that they want to work the jobs, but when you grow up like many of the blacks in chicago, you've cultivated almost no real world skills.

ever seen black people in crosswalks? how are they going to perform in a job where output is king?

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: avocado nursing home associate

as opposed to all the real world skills cultivated in San Salvador?

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Abnormal house-broken locale dopamine

i'm not arguing for the illegals, i'm just saying that i'm not surprised at the disparity.

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:06 PM
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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:30 PM
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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:09 PM
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Summary: company that engaged in shady and illegal hiring practices meets its predicable end.

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:10 PM
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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: Histrionic doctorate stage

Also, the black workers tend to call ICE on the Hispanic workers

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:15 PM
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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:15 PM
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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:21 PM
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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: Orchid Parlour



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Date: February 19th, 2018 6:23 PM
Author: Anal shrine brethren



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: green concupiscible tanning salon fat ankles

Maybe have the Mexican guys use the Black guys' socials and then split the pay? Win win

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35438533)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Passionate Godawful School

They have to come back

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Ultramarine Laughsome Cruise Ship



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: Stirring Space New Version



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Sapphire filthy institution

if theyre leaving 4 dollars isnt enough of a raise. what dont the owners understand?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35438584)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Alcoholic jap school cafeteria

More likely the company was accustomed to running a shady sweatshop and non-illegal workers were not interested in working for such a company.

Some of my Mexican clients tell horror stories of certain contractors and how bad they are to work for. One that stuck with me what that a Mexican fell off some scaffolding on an industrial job into large cement mixer, and after they fished out as many body parts as they could, everyone went back to work like nbd. I heard that story from a white foreman, and I can't tell you that it's true, but that is the work environment. Employers can do this when your labor force is illegal immigrants. Construction workers, whether white or black, who are not illegal immigrants don't work under these conditions. Whenever I hear some stupid cunt talk about how "only illegals will do these jobs," I think about how little a person has to know about the world to say things like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35438622)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Sapphire filthy institution

i understand theres a lot more to a job than a wage but wages are supposed to be the factor tat brings the job to an equilibreum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35438646)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: razzmatazz up-to-no-good point rigpig

If a company's baseline is relying on illegal/subsidized labor, the entire architecture from bottom up will start to decay due to the corner cutting.

Illegal labor of one kind or another is something that Boomer company owners/managers depend on like heroin - it has helped to fund their lavish compensation and shoddy business operations.

These companies could have adopted a different model but they didn't - because for the past 20+ years or so the government softly or explicitly condoned screwing over the worker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35438651)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: Alcoholic jap school cafeteria

I agree. Illegal immigration's main effect has been to transfer wealth from low wage workers to management, and also deeply warp employment practices and culture in the industries that embraced it.

Companies that got used to treating their labor no better than chattel slavery field slaves are not going to fare well, hence OP's link. EDIT: and that's fine with me, fuck these guys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35438670)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 4:01 AM
Author: zombie-like bisexual mood indian lodge



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Date: February 19th, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: Bearded bronze useless brakes resort



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Date: February 20th, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: Floppy Foreskin

Cr. I wonder how much these externalities impact the overall economy. Eg food poisoning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35447067)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:09 AM
Author: magical athletic conference



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Date: February 20th, 2018 4:01 AM
Author: zombie-like bisexual mood indian lodge



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Lascivious gas station boistinker



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: magenta heaven

Lol at amerikkkkkkkkkkkkkka

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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: blathering boltzmann halford



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: Stirring Space New Version

"Also, the black workers tend to call ICE on the Hispanic workers"

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35438671)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: iridescent church building double fault

all this means is that eventually bakeries will have to hire two blacks for each mexican and then raise prices.

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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:53 PM
Author: Orchid Parlour

we will end up emigrating to Mexico

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Date: February 20th, 2018 12:02 AM
Author: sable native shitlib

Or fucking automate their processes.

You think a robot can't make a danish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35442302)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: Greedy heady roommate



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: walnut flickering market

Mexican labor is actually pretty 180 for lower class proles. We need them since poor whites and blacks won't do these jobs well or at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35439096)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Plum Dog Poop National Security Agency



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: talented digit ratio

What made you think this was at all insightful? Plenty of whites and blacks will do these jobs if you pay them commensurate with the product you need in the absence of illegal labor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35439170)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: Ultramarine Laughsome Cruise Ship

no they wont. white trash and nigs are lazy as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35440291)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:01 AM
Author: Swollen step-uncle's house regret

that's racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35443060)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:42 PM
Author: green concupiscible tanning salon fat ankles

There's no question that anybody middle class and up benefits massively from illegal immigrant workers. Only the bottom rung of our society is hurt. Hard to tell whether xoxoers are legit proles who are hurt by illegal immigration or perhaps just uninformed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35442206)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:43 PM
Author: Fragrant elastic band lay

How does the middle class benefit from public schools becoming completely unusable? Glad your gas station cupcakes are 50 cents cheaper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35442215)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:04 AM
Author: magical athletic conference



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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:06 AM
Author: Motley Crusty Garrison



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Date: February 20th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Arousing sooty kitty plaza



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Date: February 20th, 2018 5:32 PM
Author: avocado nursing home associate



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:48 PM
Author: diverse address scourge upon the earth

oh yeah you're right we should just allow it then because there are no other consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35442240)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:02 AM
Author: Swollen step-uncle's house regret

i'd be hurt without it since they make up a large portion of my client base

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35443063)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: Irradiated Den

Whites and blacks unite! Physically remove the illegal invaders!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35439108)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: ebony marvelous preventive strike menage

"But Okwusa says Cloverhill soon ran into problems. In a memo to the company, Okwusa, who is African American, wrote that the black workers “displayed a higher turnover rate of over 40 percent and a lower efficiency rate than their Hispanic co-workers.”

Author wants to make ABSOLUTELY CLEAR it's a black person saying this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35439109)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: hyperactive electric friendly grandma

fucking this. If "Okwusa" was white or asian writing that would destroy his career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35440285)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: at-the-ready territorial corner famous landscape painting

180 race war NOW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35439111)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: Plum Dog Poop National Security Agency



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:26 PM
Author: Fragrant elastic band lay

180, this is what democracy looks like, faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35442046)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Arousing sooty kitty plaza



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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:11 AM
Author: magical athletic conference

Ladies and gentlemen: the Democrat coalition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35443082)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: green concupiscible tanning salon fat ankles

Pretty much every minority group is far more racist against other minority groups than any white people are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35446803)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: cerebral smoky quadroon

amerika 2018, everybody

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897668&forum_id=2#35447120)