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Johann Hari took his first antidepressants at age 18, and th...
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dashing mewling queen of the night
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Hows Oslo.
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dashing mewling queen of the night
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Is it freezing as a mofo right now?
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Sex and excercise releaves depression
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We're all doomed.
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squat and deadlift. Sit in sunshine for 20 minutes. Coffee
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be 6'4"
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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: Odious apoplectic background story

Johann Hari took his first antidepressants at age 18, and the experience, he says, was like a “chemical kiss.” The burden was lifted immediately from his whirring brain. He kept on taking the pills for 13 years, at higher and higher doses–until, at one point, the drugs didn’t work anymore. He was still depressed.

In his early 30s, Hari, a journalist, started to question the prevailing wisdom about depression. Was his desperation and anxiety really connected, as he had been told by a succession of doctors, to a chemical imbalance in the brain? Was it genetic, as other scientists claimed? Or were the reasons why so many people are depressed these days really more social? Is the depression epidemic connected to how we’ve chosen to construct the world around us?

“For the first 18 years of my life, I had thought of it as ‘all in my head’–meaning it was not real, imaginary, fake, an indulgence, an embarrassment, a weakness. Then, for the next 13 years, I believed it was ‘all in my head’ in a very different way–it was due to a malfunctioning brain,” Hari writes in his new book, Lost Connections: Uncovering the Real Causes of Depression–and the Unexpected Solutions.

“The primary cause of all this rising depression and anxiety is not in our heads. It is, I discovered, largely in the world, and the way we are living it. I learned there are at least nine proven causes of depression and anxiety . . . and many of them are rising all around us–causing us to feel radically worse.”

Of course, people who are merely unhappy are not the same as people like Hari who are diagnosed as severely depressed and anxious. We tend to view the latter group as having a disease, and the first as, well, having a bad day. But Hari argues that these traditional distinctions aren’t as useful as we’ve been taught to think. Unhappiness and depression are on a continuum, he argues, rather than being separate planets. They are caused, to an extent, by the same thing: disconnection from the things we need to be happy.

“The forces that are making some of us depressed and severely anxious are, at the same time, making even more people unhappy,” he writes.

Lost Connections is a fascinating look at what causes people to be depressed and asks what we can do aside from simply throwing more pills at the problem. Already one in five American adults are taking a drug for a psychiatric problem, including almost a quarter of middle-age women.

Arguably, however, the unhappiness plague is larger than the actual medicated population. When you consider a wider group of unhappy people–those who don’t rate as depressed, but are nonetheless sad and miserable–we’re probably talking about many, many millions around the world.

What We Need To Be Happy

Hari interviews dozens of social scientists around the world who’ve studied various aspects of depression and unhappiness. His concludes that what causes these conditions most of all is a lack of what we need to be happy, including the need to belong in a group, the need to be valued by other people, the need to feel like we’re good at something, and the need to feel like our future is secure.

Hari talks, for example, to Michael Marmot, who carried out a famous study of British civil servants in the 1980s. We assume that people with more responsibility in their jobs are more stressed out and liable to be depressed. After all, the clerk at the bottom of the pay scale gets to go home on time and be with their kids. In fact, Marmot found something like the opposite when he talked to thousands of civil servants in the U.K. Those lower down the highly hierarchical bureaucracy were more anxious and unhappy.

Marmot concluded that monotonous, boring, and soul-destroying work is the most stressful kind. It’s not a matter of responsibility level; what matters is whether work is meaningful, whether we feel like we have control over our jobs, and whether we feel that our hard work will have some equal reward. Senior people are more likely to enjoy these perks than juniors, even if the former’s decisions are more nerve-racking.

Finding Reconnections

In the second half of the book, Hari gives some suggestions for how we can all be less unhappy–what he calls “reconnections” with the things we need. He came to realize we need to think less about ourselves and more about others. We need to ditch spending so much time alone with ourselves; it’s more natural to be in the flow of other people. “Nature is connection,” leading expert on loneliness John Cacioppo tells Hari.

And Hari learns that it’s better to lose oneself in the crowd. “The real path to happiness, [the researchers] were telling me, comes from dismantling our ego walls–from letting yourself flow into other people’s stories and letting their stories flow into yours; from pooling your identity, from realizing that you were never you–alone, heroic, sad–all along,” Hari writes. Now, when he feels depressed, Hari doesn’t do something for himself, like buying a new shirt, or renting a favorite movie. He tries to do something for someone. He feels better for it.

“Meaningful values” are another source of improved contentment. To be happy, we should avoid materialist values and the mental pollution that is advertising. “When they talk among themselves, advertising people have been admitting since the 1920s that their job is to make people feel inadequate–and then offer their product as the solution to the sense of inadequacy they have created, ” Hari writes. “Ads are the ultimate frenemy–they’re always saying: Oh babe, I want you to look/smell/feel great; it makes me so sad that at the moment you’re ugly/stinking/miserable . . . ”

Hari now avoids social media. It is a comparison engine that makes lots of people feel inadequate; the idealized images of their friends make us feel worse. He only watches subscription TV, not the old stuff interrupted by truck and drug ads. More cities could follow the lead taken by São Paulo, Brazil, he says–it has banned public display advertising (the law is called the Clean City Law)–or Sweden and Greece, which have banned advertising to children.

And following the advice of Tim Kasser, a professor of psychology at Knox College, in Illinois, Hari suggests that we live by our intrinsic values as opposed to extrinsic values. That means values that are important in themselves, like loving our friends and family and following our interests, as opposed to caring how others view us and trying to fill the hole in our hearts with more possessions. These don’t, ultimately, make us happier, even if buying something has a momentary thrill.

Hari also lays out some compelling research about the importance of nature. For example, the University of Essex has shown in large-scale studies that people who move to the countryside from cities, as opposed to the other way round, have higher levels of mental health. Likewise, people who live near green spaces within cities are happier than those who live adjacent to asphalt and tall buildings.

Lost Connections imagines that any number of social interventions might make us feel better about ourselves. In a final chapter, Hari interviews the Dutch historian Rutger Bregman, a leading advocate for a basic income. By giving people money to meet their everyday needs, Bregman argues, we can improve their well-being, free them from pointless jobs, and allow everyone to engage in meaningful activity again. Research, though limited, seems to back up this idea, including a large basic income trial in Manitoba, Canada, in the 1970s.

Some have taken issue with Hari’s book, saying that he unfairly paints psychiatrists as pill pushers. They say Hari’s social science insights aren’t new or particularly revelatory, which may be true–to academics and professional therapists. The public clearly mostly thinks depression is a matter of serotonin levels and genetics, and that the divide between depression and mere unhappiness is absolute. Hari did and he lived with depression for more than 20 years. Here, Hari makes the subject more humane and social. In his telling, it’s something we can fix and work on, not something we must acquiesce to and medicate.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40527184/everyones-miserable-heres-why-and-what-we-can-do-about-it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35442788)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:21 AM
Author: contagious theater stage

i heard this guy on the radio, he sounded like he knew what the fuck he was talking about

the tl;dr was that the Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

more serious tl;dr medicating depression is TTT and often the problem is that our modern society isolates people and has destroyed civic engagement so get off your ass and go join a fuckin club faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35442946)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:23 AM
Author: Violet supple macaca institution



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: beady-eyed pea-brained point deer antler



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: very tactful vibrant stage really tough guy

one quibble: you need a REAL PARK, "green space" is lazy developer flame:

> As we think about parks, we have to address the really poisonous notion of “green space” which has polluted City Design thinking over the past several decades. The term “green space” is rather fuzzy in general use. In practice, it can certainly include formal parks, but what it really tends to mean is some kind of surface area covered with vegetation that is not a park. If it was a park, then we would call it a “park” and not have a separate term, “green space.”

“Green space” is a new invention. The basic purpose and format of “green space” is to serve as a buffer between some sort of automobile infrastructure (Arterial street or parking lot) and some place where human activity takes place — like an office, residence, or, for that matter, a park. I’ve talked about “green space” extensively in the past. A park is not “green space.” It is a park.

October 10, 2009: Place and Non-Place

I often say that a park should have a name, and the name should include the work “park.” This is only linguistics, but it tends to illustrate exactly what I mean. For example, the rather large expanse of grass in the center of the superhighway offramp is certainly “green space,” but it is not a park, and nobody could call it a park with a straight face. Also, that greenery surrounding the parking lot at WalMart is not a park. We understand that a park is a destination for people, and for use by people. Green space is not a destination (which is why it has no name), and if you actually tried to do something there, you might get arrested.

“Parks” can range from tiny urban “pocket parks” of only a few hundred square feet, up to extremely large wilderness areas, like “National Parks.” Also, parks should be designed, for their intended human use. This “design” might mean leaving most of it in a naturalistic state, like Yellowstone National Park, or, for a small urban park, it might mean a lot of artificial elements like manmade waterfalls and pavement, and precise organization of trees and shrubs. But, it does not mean just a flat square of mown grass. If you could hire Frederick Law Olmstead, the designer of New York’s Central Park, and say: “Fred, we love your recent work, and we want to pay you $300,000 to design our new park,” and he came back with a flat square of mown grass, what would you think? The reason you hired him in the first place was to get something like Central Park, which is quite lovingly and beautifully designed. (A flat square of mown grass is a typical format for “green space”.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35462975)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: dashing mewling queen of the night

Korean alpha happily creampieing Norwegian cuties in Oslo here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35442789)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:42 AM
Author: irradiated charcoal travel guidebook

Hows Oslo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35442791)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:48 AM
Author: dashing mewling queen of the night

Amazing city.

Im going to make a "Final Thoughts" post in my WGWAG megathread when I leave Norway. Be sure to check it out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35442811)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:53 AM
Author: irradiated charcoal travel guidebook

Is it freezing as a mofo right now?

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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:55 AM
Author: dashing mewling queen of the night

Nope. Korea has colder winters and I was very disappointed by how warm it is vis a vis Korea, actually.

It does snow a fuckton though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35442851)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:42 AM
Author: Stimulating Ebony Base Lettuce

haha yeah

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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:49 AM
Author: snowy thriller kitchen

yea antidepressants might help temporarily but it fucks you up long term. i'm much more chill in how i cope with my depression: doing nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35442816)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:50 AM
Author: Tan Antidepressant Drug Kitty

Sex and excercise releaves depression

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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:51 AM
Author: Odious apoplectic background story

"sex"

lmao, you live in the Incel States of America now

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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:51 AM
Author: Tan Antidepressant Drug Kitty



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Date: February 20th, 2018 1:52 AM
Author: dashing mewling queen of the night

Korean alpha creampieing Norwegian cuties in Oslo here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35442839)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:25 AM
Author: Motley Abnormal Mental Disorder Stag Film

We're all doomed.

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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:34 AM
Author: Misanthropic Gaming Laptop

"His concludes that what causes these conditions most of all is a lack of what we need to be happy, including the need to belong in a group, the need to be valued by other people, the need to feel like we’re good at something, and the need to feel like our future is secure."

0 for 4

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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:42 AM
Author: Odious apoplectic background story



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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:47 AM
Author: Mildly autistic principal's office reading party



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: pale bisexual parlor ceo



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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:39 AM
Author: Misanthropic Gaming Laptop

Great article on GC and it's impact on our minds

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3341383&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35442998)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:41 AM
Author: Misanthropic Gaming Laptop

Depression Ring

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2428504&forum_id=2#31526980

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35443000)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:30 AM
Author: garnet rambunctious blood rage

" Its driving features – individualism, materialism, hyper-competition, greed, over-complication, overwork, hurriedness and debt – all correlate negatively with psychological health and/or social wellbeing."

Talk about on the nose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35443143)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: Misanthropic Gaming Laptop



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Date: February 20th, 2018 2:39 AM
Author: learning disabled spot

Duh

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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:28 AM
Author: vivacious ultramarine mad cow disease

it's great

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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:35 AM
Author: garnet rambunctious blood rage

we really like it here

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Date: February 20th, 2018 3:37 AM
Author: vivacious ultramarine mad cow disease



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: Mentally impaired metal half-breed

squat and deadlift. Sit in sunshine for 20 minutes. Coffee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35462986)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: pale bisexual parlor ceo

be 6'4"

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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Mentally impaired metal half-breed



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: brilliant lascivious national

Marmot concluded that monotonous, boring, and soul-destroying work is the most stressful kind. It’s not a matter of responsibility level; what matters is whether work is meaningful, whether we feel like we have control over our jobs, and whether we feel that our hard work will have some equal reward. Senior people are more likely to enjoy these perks than juniors, even if the former’s decisions are more nerve-racking.

could not agree with this more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35463029)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: Hilarious hateful volcanic crater gas station



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: cowardly private investor partner

Nah, it's because most people don't have any creative drive or passion in them, they are slaves to the will in every respect. We live in an era in which there are myriad ways to channel your surplus consciousness. You can write an entire symphony on your laptop with lifelike instrumentation. You can learn to do practically anything. If you're unhappy because there's no Jack or Jill to small talk with you at the bowling alley, you are just boring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35463091)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: beady-eyed pea-brained point deer antler



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Flatulent ticket booth

Everyone knows this already.

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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: brilliant lascivious national

we're all just fucked

this whole fucking country and world is fucking fucked

the more i know the more i just think to myself - wow humanity has some dark days ahead. i mean, really. dark fucking days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35463260)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:33 PM
Author: Flatulent ticket booth



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: vivacious ultramarine mad cow disease

thoo dark

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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: canary hissy fit new version

Marmot concluded that monotonous, boring, and soul-destroying work is the most stressful kind.

Good thing I'm a lawyer!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3898194&forum_id=2#35463299)