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US did pretty terrible in WW2 europe- correct?
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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:36 AM Author: Violent fighting trailer park project torch disaster
got absolutely gaped in Italy - really embarrassing stuff
didn't invade france until halfway through 44
got dadded around by 4th string german troops when they finally arrive
lost most of Europe to the soviets
just really really bad. LOL @ "greatest" generation.
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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:43 AM Author: fragrant roast beef U forgot Japan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35450990) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:46 AM Author: self-centered spot stain Which is of course located right next to Poland. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35450995) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:52 AM Author: Titillating pocket flask office Risten (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451003) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:00 AM Author: Mentally impaired son of senegal Doesn't seem like we did anything brilliant or ever have militarily at the theatre level. Normandy was an unnecessary loss of life. We fucked up mainland Italy invasion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451015) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:18 AM Author: fantasy-prone degenerate Midway seems like it was mostly luck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451199) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:20 AM Author: Poppy charismatic locus *leans into mic* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451203) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:28 AM Author: Mentally impaired son of senegal Questioned whether to except midway/ Pacific theater but was too lazy. I stand by my main point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451529) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:19 AM Author: Carnelian 180 place of business What? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451830) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:18 AM Author: burgundy exciting water buffalo indirect expression Eisenhower's "broad front" strategy was also SPS and prolonged the war. Montgomery could have wrapped it up in 1944.
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/a-lingering-controversy-eisenhowers-broad-front-strategy.htm |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:48 AM Author: Misunderstood irradiated ticket booth I think you mean Montgomery was BUTTHURT about his loss of command and British prestige and whined afterwards about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451289) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:14 AM Author: Chrome Razzle Center this is the first paragraph of your link:
Not only was it politically impossible to have permitted the British to win the war by means of the narrow front, there is ample evidence to question if such a drive, if mounted, could have been logistically sustained beyond the Ruhr. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:45 AM Author: burgundy exciting water buffalo indirect expression Ok. There was "ample evidence to question" pretty much every big decision in the war. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451625) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:47 AM Author: Chrome Razzle Center some of those decisions had the benefit of having a clearly victorious ending.
your speculative proposal has no such benefit. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:21 AM Author: Titillating pocket flask office *drops lactose bombs ITT* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451060) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:23 AM Author: drunken thriller newt travel guidebook isn't this the position of the neonazis that hate the asians? Can we get a ruling on this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451070) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:21 AM Author: Submissive death wish We did better than Britain and obviously France and Italy - our guys fought really well in the Battle of the Bulge in particular.
Nobody fought as well as Germany, but that's not surprising given their culture. Warrior cultures produce better warriors- duh. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:46 AM Author: Provocative Gas Station Legend the Soviets fought pretty well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451634) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:50 AM Author: appetizing keepsake machete The soviets died well, the Germans did all the killing and couldn't sustain their supply lines through a harsh Russian winter. The timing of Barbarosa was fucked by the incompetent Italians faltering in Greece. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451646) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:27 AM Author: Poppy charismatic locus Despite our pride, America has always been more of a maritime/amphibious nation than a land war nation. We briefly went the other way in the civil war out of necessity, but our preferred COA is to fight our wars on someone else’s doorstep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451078) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:30 AM Author: Hideous church building international law enforcement agency US was cautious, but had great results. Only engaging when victory was more or less assured. The only major fuck up was letting the Brits talk us into Market Garden.
US faught smart not brave. Avoiding the war of attrition being faught in the east was credited as fuck. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:32 AM Author: sable becky Cr. Winning land battles wasn't our goal. Our goal is to bomb the Germans to bits before the engagement even started (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451086) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:33 AM Author: Titillating pocket flask office i love when russians brag about how many of them died. it's never "we achieved this, and brought that to humanity, etc"
it's always just "yeah but we were slaughtered by the millions, sometimes by our own leaders, and you guys werent" |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:34 AM Author: Poppy charismatic locus Cr
Lol |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:43 AM Author: passionate unholy headpube factory reset button Russians love being dadded around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451104) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:17 AM Author: Deranged Supple Coldplay Fan Senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451197) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:02 AM Author: concupiscible bright fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451377) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:18 AM Author: up-to-no-good chartreuse native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451452) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:19 AM Author: Nofapping Site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451456) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:27 AM Author: Gold big yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451515) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:38 AM Author: Primrose Abnormal Stage Jewess Yeah, Russia did nothing. Only broke the back of the German Army, took Berlin and ended the war. Other than that, what did they do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451581) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:54 AM Author: Titillating pocket flask office Lmao
defensiveness is another yuge Russian trait
I was implying that Russians are stupid as dogshit for thinking that any and all sacrifices they made were automatically necessary or positive. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:22 AM Author: Primrose Abnormal Stage Jewess I don't think anyone ever says Russia's efforts during WW2 were great because lots of people died. But you go knock down that strawman. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451848) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Titillating pocket flask office that’s ALL Russians ever say, so it’s not a straw man. it’s not like with the US where we can say “hey we made a huge sacrifice but created two incredibly strong capitalistic democracies”
Russians say “we made a huge sacrifice and that in itself is a good thing” even if it accomplished absolutely nothing positive ever for anybody |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:55 AM Author: Primrose Abnormal Stage Jewess "that’s ALL Russians ever say, so it’s not a straw man. it’s not like with the US where we can say “hey we made a huge sacrifice but created two incredibly strong capitalistic democracies”"
Germany and ??? In any event, modern Germany is a shitshow.
"Russians say “we made a huge sacrifice and that in itself is a good thing” even if it accomplished absolutely nothing positive ever for anybody"
No they don't. They say we made a huge sacrifice and defeated the Nazis. I've NEVER heard of anyone say "well lots of us died" in a vacuum. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:02 AM Author: Poppy charismatic locus lol
The Russians literally wasted millions of lives due to incompetence, corruption, and communist fanatacism and still only got to keep the shitty half of europe. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:20 AM Author: Primrose Abnormal Stage Jewess "The Russians literally wasted millions of lives due to incompetence, corruption, and communist fanatacism"
I don't think anyone would deny this.
"and still only got to keep the shitty half of europe"
Keeping half of Europe isn't bad at all.
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Poppy charismatic locus lol fair, but they couldnt even hang onto it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451840) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:22 AM Author: Primrose Abnormal Stage Jewess That incompetence and corruption fucking the motherland again... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451852) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:28 AM Author: Poppy charismatic locus They really are their own worst enemy.
If only they could run a country as well as thet trolled our election. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:35 AM Author: Primrose Abnormal Stage Jewess "They really are their own worst enemy."
For sure. After everything, the USSR falls apart because some party bosses wanted MOAR for themselves and decided they would be better off as Presidents of various shitstates than governors under a USSR that keeps corruption in basic check.
"If only they could run a country as well as thet trolled our election."
Honestly, they didn't even do that amazing of a job. Democrats and neo-con Rs are the ones that blew this out of proportion and caused massive internal damage within the US (ironically, that incompetence and corruption fucking this country now). |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:31 AM Author: abusive prole is this ARE Reptile? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451914) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:35 AM Author: Primrose Abnormal Stage Jewess Nope. Are Reptile would never admit this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451947) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:31 AM Author: abusive prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451915) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:14 AM Author: sapphire corner elastic band Market Garden was also a disaster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451191) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:03 AM Author: Submissive death wish Not really- only the Arnhem part of the operations, and that was Brits and Poles. The Americans airborne troops took their objectives in Eindhoven and Nijmegen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451379) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:25 AM Author: racy chocolate messiness We also did stuff like this:
Which wasn’t impressive tactically but definitely helped break the nazis’ spirit and caused the world to get together and agree that people shouldn’t do stuff like this after the war. Not sure if that counts as good or bad. It was technically permissible under the operative concepts of war, so one could argue we were smart to press our advantage and if the shoe was on the other foot the nazis wouldn’t have hesitated to do the same or worse to us/to London. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:00 AM Author: Beta coral deer antler Wrong. The RAF did that flying Lancaster and Halifax bombers at night with 6 people in them but 3 times the bomb load of our B17 and B24 which had ten people and did “precision” daylight bombing.
In Japan, LeMay got it right and ran B29s at night with incendiary bombs and destroyed pretty much everything. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:37 AM Author: Violent fighting trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451574) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:28 AM Author: racy chocolate messiness It was a roughly 60/40 UK/US split of planes that was coordinated and co-planned. The main reason we didn't have more of a 50/50 role was weather.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:32 PM Author: Beta coral deer antler We dropped high explosive bombs a lot of them no even on the right city which did jack shit. XO Bomber Harris torched the city with incendiaries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452349) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:57 AM Author: Hideous church building international law enforcement agency Slaughtering white women and children was not credited my friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452093) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:16 AM Author: free-loading incel war is won by production, US killed it there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451447) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:47 AM Author: burgundy exciting water buffalo indirect expression titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451636) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:18 AM Author: cheese-eating exhilarant puppy [Guy who has played Axis & Allies.] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451823) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:34 AM Author: Frozen magenta house juggernaut Old trope. War was won with American steel, British brains, and Soviet blood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451935) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:59 AM Author: Hideous church building international law enforcement agency British got their shit pushed in and made bone headed decisions the whole time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452105) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:02 PM Author: Frozen magenta house juggernaut I think it's a reference to British technology + military intelligence. Crucial advancements (radar, proximity fuses for AA guns, etc) were British.
Their battlefield decisions, both with Montgomery and in SE Asia, were questionable. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:29 PM Author: free-loading incel they got theri shit pushed in everywhere and only survived becasue they had a good air force and zee germans didnt want to bomb the shit out of places they want to live
at least the latter is what i laerned from dunkirk |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Frozen magenta house juggernaut I think they survived because it was literally impossible for the Germans to conduct an invasion without first destroying the Royal Navy, something they were never capable of doing (or even attempted). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452365) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:13 PM Author: harsh cerise library https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2018/02/not-their-finest-hour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452695) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:03 AM Author: Avocado multi-colored black woman Yes, but less bad than everyone else, so they won. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451718) |