Libs: Merit based migration is racist, we need to flood the US w/ poor ethnics
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:29 PM Author: ivory spectacular jewess toaster
*Julia flames/lies*
*people get mad and respond*
I guess she did win here
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:59 PM Author: vengeful sandwich
You’re a racist, though, so we have no way of knowing whether you actually understand the concept of racism, nor whether you can separate your racist emotions from logic well enough to even credibly make such an argument.
Second, and most importantly, proles immigrating from poor countries is what America has always been about. Now the descendants of poor proles like yourself want to get uppity and think you’re better than the newly-arriving proles. Of course you’re not; your bloodline is from potato or bratwurst proles, but is prole nonetheless. Nearly every successful person in America is essentially nouveau riche trash
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452570) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:12 PM Author: vengeful sandwich
Typical illogical racist unable to make cogent arguments:
*. Thinks that the absence of racism is immoral, but racism is not
* Thinks that because he is racist and illogical, the absence of racism must also lead to illogic.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452690) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:14 PM Author: vengeful sandwich
I am making two separate arguments:
1) On merit alone, his statement is stupid
2) But he is a racist, so coming from him, it carries even less merit, because it’s predicated on emotion, not unbiased logic.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452704) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:01 PM Author: Concupiscible cream temple
By the way, that was just a randomly selected year - I found a report from 2007 which states:
"The top three countries of origin for college-educated immigrants were India (14.2 percent), China (9.7 percent), and the Philippines (8.7 percent)."
In other words, effectively the same as the 2014 numbers. Looks like the numbers don't vary much after all. Please find any dataset with Mexico even as high as #3 - your statement would still be wrong and misleading, but at least you'd have a bit of wiggle room.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453162) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:10 PM Author: navy kitchen
The point stands by itself. You're simply attacking the messenger (me) for being less holy in your quasi religious morality hierarchy. I'm an unwashed heretic and thus my points don't matter
As to your second point. When my English, kraut, and lutefisk nigger forebears came to the country, there was no giant welfare state in which the government had a tacit agreement to take care of everyone and anyone within its borders. That has changed. You cannot have open borders with poor migrants flooding in while simultaneously keeping up a welfare state. Period.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452677)
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:00 PM Author: Disgusting Patrolman Office
cr.
I'm a very highly paid professional and I'm entertaining the idea of leaving this country at some point, ideally to Switzerland.
10-20 years ago that sentiment would have been unthinkable by me given my patriotism.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453151) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:14 PM Author: Ocher Dingle Berry
liberal mind at work here:
DM proposed X but I strongly oppose X because
1) HE IS RACIST OMG (relevance even if true?)
2) We have been doing what I (incorrectly) presume to be X for centuries so we should continue doing X - this doesn't mean that we should continue doing so in 2018 just because we had this policy before
can you actually respond to his argument? are you aware that almost all western europeans dont need any visa to visit US while africans need one? should we do away with this obvious racially discriminatory policy too?
are you interested in doing the sensible/right thing or the non racist thing that makes you feel good? if later go join a charity and stop talking about politics
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452709) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:20 PM Author: bateful dopamine
you said: "Second, and most importantly, proles immigrating from poor countries is what America has always been about. Now the descendants of poor proles like yourself want to get uppity and think you’re better than the newly-arriving proles. Of course you’re not; your bloodline is from potato or bratwurst proles, but is prole nonetheless. Nearly every successful person in America is essentially nouveau riche trash"
he characterized this as: "2) We have been doing what I (incorrectly) presume to be X for centuries so we should continue doing X"
what am I missing
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452763) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:48 PM Author: turquoise pocket flask
Lol thats precisely because our policy ALLOWED IT AT THE TIME. It was good for the country AT THE TIME to allow a lot of immigration.
We have two factors impacting immigration: supply (wars, famine, disease that cause people to want to come) and demand (needs of country as set by Congress).
Just because there is a huge supply of immigrants ready to come here doesnt mean that Congress has to let them all in.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453037) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:44 PM Author: turquoise pocket flask
This simple question should be the starting point for any immigration debate with a lib.
If they answer yes, then there is no point debating them.
If they answer no, then you have a established a foundation from which to build a constructive dialogue.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452985) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:38 PM Author: crusty carmine mother idea he suggested
“People don’t come when there is no work for them. ”
... unless you’re offering them free education and other handouts
“bet immigration from Mexico was down during the recession”
And how was immigration from other countries in Latin America during that period
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452929) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:17 PM Author: Alcoholic Crystalline Old Irish Cottage
"is what America has always been about."
Hold on. I want to understand the principle at issue.
How do we know when America is "about" something, and what time period do we look to?
This could be a rich source of guiding principles.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35456702) |
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