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REMINDER: U.S. white gun violence rates are the same as in Western Europe
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:55 AM Author: cyan menage U.S. gun violence is almost exclusively a black and Hispanic issue (based on FBI and CDC data). The mass-shootings/school shootings are terrible but the same things happen in Norway/etc.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZCtf80ZL7dg/UNSBzGk7yDI/AAAAAAAAAXc/0VdaNN5P1Nw/s1600/Guns_race.png https://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/12/hispanic-firearms-homicide-rate.html
The FBI doesn’t differentiate between “white” and “Hispanic” criminals, but the CDC does differentiate between victims, which can be used to discover the likely race of their attackers.
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:00 PM Author: dashing milky property coffee pot This is information you are not supposed to have (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460637) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:09 PM Author: marvelous business firm codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460739) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:22 PM Author: lascivious coral set haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460855) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:30 PM Author: beady-eyed onyx hall *reptiles jacking off to easily disproven “facts”, lol* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462012) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Mahogany irate crackhouse Get on it then, you fucking queer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470274) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:03 PM Author: odious alpha boltzmann he's hoping enough of the groups mentioned and also willfully illusioned libs are in decision making capacities. This way such facts are ignored, some bullshit excuse is accepted for them or they are made illegal |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:37 PM Author: Bisexual at-the-ready theatre aka the "hate facts" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462061) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:00 PM Author: odious alpha boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472531) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:08 PM Author: odious alpha boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472612) |
Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:59 AM Author: cyan menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460629) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:02 PM Author: trip vengeful rehab If libs had their way with the 1st Amendment, saying this type of stuff would get you arrested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460653) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:08 PM Author: maize razzle garrison hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460729) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:12 PM Author: dashing milky property coffee pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460754) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: yapping selfie it should (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460875) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:26 PM Author: Canary Domesticated Stain see e.g. uk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460887) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: cyan menage Report your neighbor!
http://report-it.org.uk/reporting_internet_hate_crime |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:03 PM Author: odious alpha boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472555) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Copper big party of the first part shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470176) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:27 PM Author: lime bull headed corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470196) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:01 PM Author: Glassy degenerate new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472538) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:03 PM Author: odious alpha boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472556) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:08 PM Author: cyan menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460716) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:10 PM Author: Buck-toothed Vibrant Parlour Windowlicker US whites kids in public schools test the same as Euro whites too. Same with Asian Americans and Asian kids, black Americans and Africans.
This is how I became a former lib. As a good young Obama voter I actually care about these problems. When you see this data, and the prohibition on discussing it, and you realize liberals don’t care |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:32 PM Author: zippy mildly autistic affirmative action nibblets lol your so full of shit and its completely transparent. and your side has never advanced any policies that suggest you care about this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470226) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 5:53 PM Author: Lilac stock car Then he should be easy to disprove (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472479) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:12 PM Author: mind-boggling purple public bath athletic conference Correct. I went on and on about this in another thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460756) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:12 PM Author: hyperventilating whorehouse These are hate facts NOT protected under the first amendment. The constitution is nothing but a white supremacist tool of oppression against bodies of coloreds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460760) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Apoplectic nighttime base CR. Not negotiable! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460922) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:12 PM Author: beady-eyed onyx hall Lol@reptiles never not falling for fake facts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460761) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Buck-toothed Vibrant Parlour Windowlicker link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460767) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:15 PM Author: mind-boggling purple public bath athletic conference I don't like this particular methodology, but the white (and Asian) homicide rate is incredibly low compared to black/hispanic. Other statistics i've seen put it in the upper range of white euro countries, which is fairly impressive considering (i) our gun laws and gun availability and (ii) the fact that almost assuredly some of the white gun violence is a result of being around black/hispanic gun violence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460776) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Effete faggotry I think there's a decimal error on the white rate above.
edit: just realized numbers below are limited to males
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2017/02/20/gun-violence-and-race-conservatives-gun-owners/
"According to a 2015 Brookings Institution study, 77 percent of white gun deaths are from suicide. Only 19 percent are homicides. Even when you combine homicides and suicides, the white-male death rate from guns is approximately 16 per 100,000. For white women, the rate is less than five per 100,000."
white gun homicide rate (male + female) is ~2 per 100,000 ((16 per 100k + 5 per 100k)/2 * 19%)
"A staggering 82 percent of African-American gun deaths are homicides. Only 14 percent are suicides. The overall gun-death rate for black males is roughly double what it is for white males"
black male gun homicide rate is ~26 per 100,000 (32 per 100k * 82%) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:27 PM Author: cerebral sneaky criminal WTF, never seen this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460903) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:48 PM Author: thriller trailer park A little over 2 per 100k seems about right from the 538 post that broke down homicide victims by race (black, white, and hispanic), assuming about 85%-90% of homicides are not interracial.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/ |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:22 PM Author: Effete faggotry I'm not certain, but I imagine the ~2 per 100k extrapolated from the above likely includes hispanic as white (overall homicide rate for whites/hispanics around 3.0 per the chart in the 538 article, gun homicide rate around 2.0). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35461953) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:21 PM Author: maize razzle garrison hissy fit where are the REAL FACTS on gun crime committed by race? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460839) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:24 PM Author: beady-eyed onyx hall DOJ.gov. Do your own homework bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35461970) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:05 PM Author: Violent hairy legs fortuitous meteor Pretty sure that's your homework if you're the one saying something isn't true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472576) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:16 PM Author: pearly house gunner See below: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35469942
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:28 PM Author: Apoplectic nighttime base ... said the guy who repeatedly fell for a black drug addict's lies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460911) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:51 PM Author: Startled theater karate Lib here. Can you link to real facts so I can refute OP? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35461039) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:06 PM Author: thriller trailer park See above for data on victims by race that includes Hispanics. The blog author makes the error of extrapolating homicide rates from youth offenders (10-24 yrs of age). The racial gap between hispanics and whites (and blacks and whites) is likely greatest in those ages and then diminishes significantly with age. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35461143) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:22 PM Author: lascivious coral set haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460852) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:27 PM Author: low-t cruise ship Yeah, but because of urban crime the govt needs to...take your guns? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460905) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:30 PM Author: Free-loading topaz ape indian lodge Don't give a shit about urban crime. Let's talk about whites shooting up concerts and schools. It seems like a good idea to prevent that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460925) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:32 PM Author: maize razzle garrison hissy fit that's extremely rare. also many shooters are not white (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460945) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:26 PM Author: Talented Bearded Voyeur Market have a more credible link? there are a few harvard studies (very easy to google them) indicating otherwise that control for socioeconomic factors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35461982) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:27 PM Author: Startled theater karate I think from other studies i've seen white rate in US is higher than in Europe but still comparable and relatively low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462000) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:31 PM Author: mind-boggling purple public bath athletic conference cr. and then ask yourself to what degree is that rate affected by the USA having violent minorities? it certainly doesn't lower it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462030) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:32 PM Author: beady-eyed onyx hall *an scholar, reviewing studies for statistical validity* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462032) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:12 PM Author: Startled theater karate Do you have anything meaningful to post in this thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462893) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:24 PM Author: yapping selfie you have a small penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35463005) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:08 PM Author: odious alpha boltzmann his point is that prestige is regulated and meted out to people who will NOT accept such conclusions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472609) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:11 PM Author: 180 amethyst electric furnace At least some of those studies lump in hispanics as white. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462881) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:34 PM Author: gay ticket booth preventive strike yeah and Europe has like no africans/middle easterners (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462050) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 3:49 PM Author: Silver Electric Theater Stage Rigpig Do you have race differentiated gun violence stats for Europe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462671) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:21 PM Author: laughsome violent mad cow disease volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462971) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:25 PM Author: Galvanic anal kitchen you'd have to factor out the nonwhite shootings in europe to get a comparison, though. in a country like the netherlands with a murder rate c. 1.0, a lot of those murders (and seemingly most of the shootings) are done by nonwhites. the actual ethnic dutch murder rate is probably 0.5 or lower. the US seems to have a murder rate "floor" somewhat more than double that, even in very "safe" states. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35463017) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 11:58 AM Author: Arrogant bearded bawdyhouse exactly. we still have a shitload more gun violence.
hardcore shitlibs will also argue that it's a societal issue. reptiles obviously prefer to circle the wagons and say 'this is not something that should concern white people.' |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 12:33 PM Author: Effete faggotry A white murder rate of 2 per 100k instead of 0.5-1 per 100k really shouldn't concern us to greatly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35469804) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 12:50 PM Author: pearly house gunner Couldn't find gun homicide by race that doesn't lump hispanic with white. But did find violent crimes involving firearms by race that separates hispanic from white in Table 7 of https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf
If you take just the firearm data, you get: Total gun violence 100% 385030.8 White gun violence 23% 89157.65 Black gun violence 42% 161878.26 Other gun violence 35% 133994.89
If you extrapolate the gun murder rate from the gun violence rate using: Gun homicide: 11,208 Gun violence: 385,030.80
You get: Population - Gun Violence per 100,000 - Estimated gun homicide per 100,000 White:197,243,423............45.2........................1.3 Black: 39,908,095...........405.6.......................11.8 Other: 79,363,503...........168.8........................4.9 Total:316,515,021...........121.6........................3.5
But we know that black murder rate is actually 52%, not 42%. So if we adjust the white and other proportionally, we get:
Gun Homicide per 100,000: White: 1.088766978 Black:14.61601331 Other: 1.963617242
1/100,000 is still high for a rich white country, but not as crazy as media would have you believe.
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:21 PM Author: cracking slippery plaza And the overall, absolute number of deaths are still higher because there are more guns here. Instead of blaming blacks, How about just reducing the number if guns in the first place and picking up new hobbies instead of hunting/shooting children at schools? Go enjoy playstation instead of killing others, Trumptard weirdos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470161) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:33 PM Author: yapping selfie we need guns to have the ability to shoot indians, asians, etc. at will (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470235) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:35 PM Author: cracking slippery plaza Careful, you might run out of bullets from shooting up children at schools before you get to that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470246) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:38 PM Author: yapping selfie im a nigger i just shoot potbellied trudskins when they get uppity behind the cash register (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470275) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 5:59 PM Author: Lilac stock car Well Mao, because your people genocided themselves in the 20th century and we don’t want that to happen here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472518) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:25 PM Author: zippy mildly autistic affirmative action nibblets Why are you arbitrarily limiting it to western europe? What about central and eastern europe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470184) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:33 PM Author: Appetizing Cheese-eating Step-uncle's House bc that is where Americans are from (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470232) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:29 PM Author: zippy mildly autistic affirmative action nibblets Well you cant constitutionally restrict gun ownership based on race. Libs tried to restrict it based on geography (Chicago, for example) but the rightwing and the NRA wouldnt allow it, so all libs are left with is to restrict it for everyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470208) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:52 PM Author: low-t cruise ship What's it take again to pass strict scrutiny? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470391) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:04 PM Author: odious alpha boltzmann you also can't base law on facts about racial propensity
thanks libs |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:36 PM Author: curious cocky area https://news.stanford.edu/news/2013/january/test-scores-ranking-011513.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470262) |