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REMINDER: U.S. white gun violence rates are the same as in Western Europe
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:55 AM Author: Yellow Preventive Strike U.S. gun violence is almost exclusively a black and Hispanic issue (based on FBI and CDC data). The mass-shootings/school shootings are terrible but the same things happen in Norway/etc.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZCtf80ZL7dg/UNSBzGk7yDI/AAAAAAAAAXc/0VdaNN5P1Nw/s1600/Guns_race.png https://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/12/hispanic-firearms-homicide-rate.html
The FBI doesn’t differentiate between “white” and “Hispanic” criminals, but the CDC does differentiate between victims, which can be used to discover the likely race of their attackers.
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:00 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Market This is information you are not supposed to have (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460637) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:09 PM Author: Unholy Fishy Sneaky Criminal Forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460739) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:22 PM Author: Pearly gay wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460855) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:30 PM Author: arousing amber area *reptiles jacking off to easily disproven “facts”, lol* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462012) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Maroon french patrolman Get on it then, you fucking queer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470274) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:03 PM Author: light swashbuckling lodge he's hoping enough of the groups mentioned and also willfully illusioned libs are in decision making capacities. This way such facts are ignored, some bullshit excuse is accepted for them or they are made illegal |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:37 PM Author: jade new version aka the "hate facts" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462061) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:00 PM Author: light swashbuckling lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472531) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:08 PM Author: light swashbuckling lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472612) |
Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:59 AM Author: Yellow Preventive Strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460629) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:02 PM Author: insanely creepy jew If libs had their way with the 1st Amendment, saying this type of stuff would get you arrested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460653) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:08 PM Author: infuriating stage goal in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460729) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:12 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460754) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: Yellow Preventive Strike Report your neighbor!
http://report-it.org.uk/reporting_internet_hate_crime |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:03 PM Author: light swashbuckling lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472555) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Garnet step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470176) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:03 PM Author: light swashbuckling lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472556) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:08 PM Author: Yellow Preventive Strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460716) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:10 PM Author: Turquoise blood rage US whites kids in public schools test the same as Euro whites too. Same with Asian Americans and Asian kids, black Americans and Africans.
This is how I became a former lib. As a good young Obama voter I actually care about these problems. When you see this data, and the prohibition on discussing it, and you realize liberals don’t care |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:32 PM Author: Vermilion Electric Plaza Elastic Band lol your so full of shit and its completely transparent. and your side has never advanced any policies that suggest you care about this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470226) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 5:53 PM Author: vigorous rose filthpig Then he should be easy to disprove (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472479) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:12 PM Author: aromatic peach address Correct. I went on and on about this in another thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460756) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:12 PM Author: irate bbw home These are hate facts NOT protected under the first amendment. The constitution is nothing but a white supremacist tool of oppression against bodies of coloreds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460760) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:29 PM Author: umber curious indian lodge CR. Not negotiable! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460922) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:12 PM Author: arousing amber area Lol@reptiles never not falling for fake facts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460761) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Turquoise blood rage link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460767) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:15 PM Author: aromatic peach address I don't like this particular methodology, but the white (and Asian) homicide rate is incredibly low compared to black/hispanic. Other statistics i've seen put it in the upper range of white euro countries, which is fairly impressive considering (i) our gun laws and gun availability and (ii) the fact that almost assuredly some of the white gun violence is a result of being around black/hispanic gun violence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460776) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Angry passionate church trust fund I think there's a decimal error on the white rate above.
edit: just realized numbers below are limited to males
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2017/02/20/gun-violence-and-race-conservatives-gun-owners/
"According to a 2015 Brookings Institution study, 77 percent of white gun deaths are from suicide. Only 19 percent are homicides. Even when you combine homicides and suicides, the white-male death rate from guns is approximately 16 per 100,000. For white women, the rate is less than five per 100,000."
white gun homicide rate (male + female) is ~2 per 100,000 ((16 per 100k + 5 per 100k)/2 * 19%)
"A staggering 82 percent of African-American gun deaths are homicides. Only 14 percent are suicides. The overall gun-death rate for black males is roughly double what it is for white males"
black male gun homicide rate is ~26 per 100,000 (32 per 100k * 82%) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:27 PM Author: Mewling son of senegal therapy WTF, never seen this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460903) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:48 PM Author: Indigo heady boltzmann brunch A little over 2 per 100k seems about right from the 538 post that broke down homicide victims by race (black, white, and hispanic), assuming about 85%-90% of homicides are not interracial.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/ |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:22 PM Author: Angry passionate church trust fund I'm not certain, but I imagine the ~2 per 100k extrapolated from the above likely includes hispanic as white (overall homicide rate for whites/hispanics around 3.0 per the chart in the 538 article, gun homicide rate around 2.0). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35461953) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:21 PM Author: infuriating stage goal in life where are the REAL FACTS on gun crime committed by race? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460839) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:24 PM Author: arousing amber area DOJ.gov. Do your own homework bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35461970) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:05 PM Author: Medicated public bath Pretty sure that's your homework if you're the one saying something isn't true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472576) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:16 PM Author: abusive appetizing trailer park See below: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35469942
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:28 PM Author: umber curious indian lodge ... said the guy who repeatedly fell for a black drug addict's lies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460911) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:51 PM Author: cerise frozen site immigrant Lib here. Can you link to real facts so I can refute OP? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35461039) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:06 PM Author: Indigo heady boltzmann brunch See above for data on victims by race that includes Hispanics. The blog author makes the error of extrapolating homicide rates from youth offenders (10-24 yrs of age). The racial gap between hispanics and whites (and blacks and whites) is likely greatest in those ages and then diminishes significantly with age. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35461143) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:22 PM Author: Pearly gay wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460852) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:27 PM Author: Flushed sickened factory reset button Yeah, but because of urban crime the govt needs to...take your guns? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460905) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:30 PM Author: bearded meetinghouse Don't give a shit about urban crime. Let's talk about whites shooting up concerts and schools. It seems like a good idea to prevent that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460925) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:32 PM Author: infuriating stage goal in life that's extremely rare. also many shooters are not white (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35460945) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:26 PM Author: bright resort dragon have a more credible link? there are a few harvard studies (very easy to google them) indicating otherwise that control for socioeconomic factors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35461982) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:27 PM Author: cerise frozen site immigrant I think from other studies i've seen white rate in US is higher than in Europe but still comparable and relatively low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462000) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:31 PM Author: aromatic peach address cr. and then ask yourself to what degree is that rate affected by the USA having violent minorities? it certainly doesn't lower it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462030) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:32 PM Author: arousing amber area *an scholar, reviewing studies for statistical validity* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462032) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:12 PM Author: cerise frozen site immigrant Do you have anything meaningful to post in this thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462893) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Honey-headed apoplectic dilemma pocket flask you have a small penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35463005) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:08 PM Author: light swashbuckling lodge his point is that prestige is regulated and meted out to people who will NOT accept such conclusions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472609) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:11 PM Author: hyperactive feces At least some of those studies lump in hispanics as white. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462881) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:34 PM Author: Silver becky coldplay fan yeah and Europe has like no africans/middle easterners (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462050) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 3:49 PM Author: Adulterous Temple Generalized Bond Do you have race differentiated gun violence stats for Europe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462671) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:21 PM Author: vengeful soul-stirring half-breed casino (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35462971) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:25 PM Author: navy dashing university you'd have to factor out the nonwhite shootings in europe to get a comparison, though. in a country like the netherlands with a murder rate c. 1.0, a lot of those murders (and seemingly most of the shootings) are done by nonwhites. the actual ethnic dutch murder rate is probably 0.5 or lower. the US seems to have a murder rate "floor" somewhat more than double that, even in very "safe" states. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35463017) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 11:58 AM Author: milky comical toaster exactly. we still have a shitload more gun violence.
hardcore shitlibs will also argue that it's a societal issue. reptiles obviously prefer to circle the wagons and say 'this is not something that should concern white people.' |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 12:33 PM Author: Angry passionate church trust fund A white murder rate of 2 per 100k instead of 0.5-1 per 100k really shouldn't concern us to greatly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35469804) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 12:50 PM Author: abusive appetizing trailer park Couldn't find gun homicide by race that doesn't lump hispanic with white. But did find violent crimes involving firearms by race that separates hispanic from white in Table 7 of https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf
If you take just the firearm data, you get: Total gun violence 100% 385030.8 White gun violence 23% 89157.65 Black gun violence 42% 161878.26 Other gun violence 35% 133994.89
If you extrapolate the gun murder rate from the gun violence rate using: Gun homicide: 11,208 Gun violence: 385,030.80
You get: Population - Gun Violence per 100,000 - Estimated gun homicide per 100,000 White:197,243,423............45.2........................1.3 Black: 39,908,095...........405.6.......................11.8 Other: 79,363,503...........168.8........................4.9 Total:316,515,021...........121.6........................3.5
But we know that black murder rate is actually 52%, not 42%. So if we adjust the white and other proportionally, we get:
Gun Homicide per 100,000: White: 1.088766978 Black:14.61601331 Other: 1.963617242
1/100,000 is still high for a rich white country, but not as crazy as media would have you believe.
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:21 PM Author: Stirring Psychic And the overall, absolute number of deaths are still higher because there are more guns here. Instead of blaming blacks, How about just reducing the number if guns in the first place and picking up new hobbies instead of hunting/shooting children at schools? Go enjoy playstation instead of killing others, Trumptard weirdos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470161) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:33 PM Author: Honey-headed apoplectic dilemma pocket flask we need guns to have the ability to shoot indians, asians, etc. at will (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470235) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Stirring Psychic Careful, you might run out of bullets from shooting up children at schools before you get to that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470246) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Honey-headed apoplectic dilemma pocket flask im a nigger i just shoot potbellied trudskins when they get uppity behind the cash register (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470275) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 5:59 PM Author: vigorous rose filthpig Well Mao, because your people genocided themselves in the 20th century and we don’t want that to happen here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35472518) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:25 PM Author: Vermilion Electric Plaza Elastic Band Why are you arbitrarily limiting it to western europe? What about central and eastern europe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470184) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:33 PM Author: High-end roommate field bc that is where Americans are from (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470232) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Vermilion Electric Plaza Elastic Band Well you cant constitutionally restrict gun ownership based on race. Libs tried to restrict it based on geography (Chicago, for example) but the rightwing and the NRA wouldnt allow it, so all libs are left with is to restrict it for everyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470208) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:52 PM Author: Flushed sickened factory reset button What's it take again to pass strict scrutiny? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470391) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 6:04 PM Author: light swashbuckling lodge you also can't base law on facts about racial propensity
thanks libs |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:36 PM Author: Tan disrespectful piazza https://news.stanford.edu/news/2013/january/test-scores-ranking-011513.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900460&forum_id=2#35470262) |