of course, xo will give me no credit for wanting an 18 yo over a 15 yo and continue to brandish me as the boart's biggest pedo, even tho the vast majority of xo likes alina better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35462092)

she's gonna get michelle kwaned by the young girl though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35463002)

we'll see what happens tonight, but evgenia still nailed her short program and set a WR despite getting beaten.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35463039)

in 1998, she won the short program and came in 2nd in the long program. in the long 3 judges ranked kwan first, while 6 ranked lipinski first. hard to call that a choke. i don't remember the details of the individual skates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35463233)

lipinski was the reigning world champ in 98

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35463265)

at the same time, Lipinski was the defending world champion from 1997, so imo it would have been equally as controversial to have a situation where a defending world champion skates clean, has a higher technical score from an extra triple-triple, and then loses on artistry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35468640)

They are showing the pair jog around the locker room.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35465845)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35466003)

Is this not a (better) repeat of Lipinsky/Kwan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35467031)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35467055)

that approach of basically a qualifying run and a do-or-die final is more compelling as a competition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35468735)

but also back to Kwan, in 2002 she won the SP and then with Hughes winning the LP (after being 4th in the SP) Kwan actually only needed to be 2nd in the LP to win gold, but she ended up 3rd behind Hughes and Slutskaya.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35468778)

also looks like Slutskaya got 4 first place votes in the LP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_skating_at_the_2002_Winter_Olympics#Program_details_2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35468860)

they essentially took half your ordinal ranking from the SP and your ordinal ranking from the long program and added them. lower number won, with the tiebreaker being the LP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35468976)

and as the pumo above noted, the old system was really just like a reg season + playoff. i don't see how that's any different than the Patriots crushing the Jets twice in the regular season with a much better record to boot and then losing to them by a point in the divisional playoff.

now i'm with you that i tend to prefer a holistic evaluation, but certainly the old system was similar in many ways to a lot of sports.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35469123)

i hate reg season + playoff rendering the regular season meaningless. the LP is only 3 minutes as it is, why render the 2 minute SP meaningless too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35469228)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_skating_at_the_2002_Winter_Olympics#Full_results_2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35499553)

I'd divorce my wife and dedicate my life to wife her if it was Smash Mouth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35467152)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35467162)

and everyone knows the rules. if it were easy to do all the jumps in the 2nd half everyone would do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900651&forum_id=2#35467188)