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Coward Florida cop caught standing outside school during shooting
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:09 PM Author: Sienna orchestra pit https://www.wptv.com/news/national/deputy-at-florida-high-school-where-17-were-killed-never-went-in-resigns
Deputy at Florida high school where 17 were killed 'never went in,' resigns
Justin Boggs The Broward County Sheriff's deputy who was assigned to be the school resource officer at Stoneman Douglas High School during last week's massacre that left 17 dead resigned this morning after being suspended without pay, Sheriff Scott Israel announced on Thursday.
Israel said that Deputy Scott Peterson was outside of the building during the time of the shooting. According to Israel, video evidence suggested that Peterson remained outside for four minutes. The entire mass shooting lasted an estimated six minutes, Israel said.
Related story: Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz recorded during 911 call in Palm Beach County
"Scott Peterson was absolutely on campus through this entire event," Israel said. "He was armed, he was in uniform. After seeing video, witness statements, and Scott Peterson's very own statement, I decided this morning to suspend Scott Peterson without pay pending an internal investigation. As is his right, Scott Peterson chose to resign."
Israel claimed that Peterson "clearly" knew there was a shooting, and was seen doing "nothing" on video. Israel added that there were no known issues with communication.
Peterson will be eligible for retirement following his resignation.
Justin Boggs is a writer for the E.W. Scripps National Desk. Follow him on Twitter @jjboggs or on Facebook. |
Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:11 PM Author: Very tactful brilliant step-uncle's house preventive strike you can bet this guy has plenty of Billy Badass moments under his belt, too, tazing defenseless homeless people, etc. these guys are the scum of the earth. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:12 PM Author: Sienna orchestra pit He’ll probably end up blowing his brains out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465401) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: Very tactful brilliant step-uncle's house preventive strike lol, not bloody likely. the last line of the story says he's eligible for his pension now. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: irradiated property But no buds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465417) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:17 PM Author: Beady-eyed Violet Jew Brunch and now we know why he failed to act (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465454) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:22 PM Author: irradiated property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465489) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:05 PM Author: olive fiercely-loyal indirect expression good point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466429) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: irradiated property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465414) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: hairless slate jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465415) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: flushed fear-inspiring scourge upon the earth this was my first thought as well. he must feel incredibly, incredibly ashamed, guilty, cowardly, or some combination of all three. add on to that the consequences to his social life and this guy is fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465429) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: irradiated property Good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465433) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Aphrodisiac dopamine or he might just justify it as, "not my fault student was crazy and guns were easy to get!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465440) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:19 PM Author: flushed fear-inspiring scourge upon the earth yeah maybe he's rationalized it as fuck it, i would have been just one more dead body. which is probably true. we expect these guys to be heroes and sacrifice themselves if necessary, but it can't be so simple when you know you're alone and outgunned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465468) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:25 PM Author: sooty zippy crackhouse Or maybe he would have shot some kid w a book in his hand or some shot and gotten arrested for murder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465510) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:37 PM Author: Indecent disrespectful plaza degenerate Now image that student was black... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466759) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:25 PM Author: massive misunderstood philosopher-king Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465511) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Scarlet lascivious messiness he's a 66 year old man in Florida who worked as a school cop. what "social life" are we really worried about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466042) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:38 PM Author: gaped abusive faggot firefighter Or he could be protecting his pension. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466083) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:42 PM Author: fluffy hairraiser indian lodge People good enough to feel those kinds of emotions don't become cops anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466818) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:52 PM Author: adventurous pocket flask LOL
he is a BOOMER COP. 0 chance of him feeling an ounce of guilt. he would have killed the innocent kids himself if he could. he's headed straight to cocomo and never looking back |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:10 AM Author: Provocative cumskin haunted graveyard exactly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468018) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: irradiated property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465408) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: Stimulating roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465421) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:27 PM Author: ruby weed whacker school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465517) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: sooty zippy crackhouse Bet that school resource officer that did this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IY1e8qe-2O8
Wouldve handled business in Florida |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: irradiated property Eh nigs are wild monkeys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465431) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:17 PM Author: Aphrodisiac dopamine bet Zimmerman would've shot him for free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465452) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:21 PM Author: sooty zippy crackhouse lol cr. He woulda murked cruz months ago if he was the resource officer. Prob got him doing laundry in his house or something on the grounds he was acting weird at school a while back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465484) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:15 AM Author: pungent stag film spin, ratfucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467805) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: citrine trip pit laser beams Holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465420) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: Jet roommate hairy legs Cowardly Florida Cops - Standing Outside a Shot-Up Highschool With a Glock in my Hands.mp3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465422) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:43 PM Author: hot slimy people who are hurt office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465635) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:38 PM Author: curious bistre puppy Hahahahhaha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466090) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM Author: olive fiercely-loyal indirect expression well done (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466452) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:49 PM Author: Contagious Gaping Circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466871) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: Aphrodisiac dopamine why do we pay cops so much and give them pensions if they're not willing to put their lives in danger? isn't that the whole justification for their compensation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465430) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: sooty zippy crackhouse Seems like a school of that size should have more than one cop there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465438) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Aphrodisiac dopamine some schools have none, so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465447) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:18 PM Author: Very tactful brilliant step-uncle's house preventive strike apparently they genuinely believe that 1. 'assuring officer safety regardless of costs in loss of human life' 2. 'compelling the general public to offer displays of submission and respect for muh authority'
are their 2 prime directives. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:43 PM Author: hot slimy people who are hurt office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465639) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:33 PM Author: laughsome locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466028) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:42 PM Author: gaped abusive faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466125) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:41 PM Author: fluffy hairraiser indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466812) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:23 PM Author: bateful tattoo sneaky criminal and HOLY SHIT if a cop dies in the line of duty you sure as shit hear about, "Oh my GOD, how could this happen?!" Like a cop being shot should be more rare than a plumber or electrician or lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465498) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:42 PM Author: hot slimy people who are hurt office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465631) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Twisted useless brakes native I was with you until you said lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466045) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:45 PM Author: vibrant mad-dog skullcap principal's office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466187) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:40 PM Author: low-t station goal in life In Wisconsin, they just made it a felony to threaten a family court lawyer.
It's reactionary bullshit to an incident where some AZN immigrant murdered his estranged wife's divorce attorney.
Really fucking dumb, it ought to be open season on lawyers |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Crusty sandwich senate What does MILITARY DATA say on how non-ops soldiers perform when they come under fire? I would imagine everyone shits themselves and doesn't fire at all or does ineffectively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465441) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:18 PM Author: Beady-eyed Violet Jew Brunch nonsense. some will choke, some won't. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:24 PM Author: Crusty sandwich senate Jessica Lynch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465499) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:28 PM Author: Beady-eyed Violet Jew Brunch she was unconscious i had to look her up |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:24 PM Author: sooty zippy crackhouse Pretty sure if cop goes in there he blasts like 4 kids by accident and gets convicted of murder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465505) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:25 PM Author: Crusty sandwich senate (Not a law masterman) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465508) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:26 PM Author: sooty zippy crackhouse (Hasn’t watched news in 3 years) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465514) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:41 PM Author: flushed fear-inspiring scourge upon the earth the cop data is well established and shows they suck at hitting targets.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/weekinreview/09baker.html |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:40 PM Author: laughsome locus Amazing how much more sane people were just 10 or so years ago. An article and police shootings with only one mention of race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466103) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:18 PM Author: Boyish clear area LOL at sheriff hiding this until after the town hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465466) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:19 PM Author: Beady-eyed Violet Jew Brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465470) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:24 PM Author: sooty zippy crackhouse Lol yep. He let ppl rant “GUN CONTROL NOW. ONLY COPS GET GUNS”
Waited
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Thinks blame is on guns finally
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we had a cop there hiding outside the whole time who didn’t do anything. Oops lol |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:43 PM Author: hot slimy people who are hurt office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465642) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:51 PM Author: exciting pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465727) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Scarlet lascivious messiness libs were right about cops and guns, film at 11 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466053) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:42 PM Author: walnut nowag The same libs who hate cops and think they’re the only ones who should have guns? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466134) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:47 PM Author: Scarlet lascivious messiness those are dumb libs. the credited lib position is that cops used to be deeply respected pillars of the community but are now almost uniformly lazy, stupid community college grads with a racist chip on their shoulder. and smarts/elites should have guns, not crazies or dumbs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466201) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:57 PM Author: Sadistic sepia locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466324) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM Author: white crotch No, you're all the same. Sorry ;)
Remember the ACLU wanting to relax rules that made it tougher for crazies to buy guns? |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:16 PM Author: walnut nowag "almost uniformly... with a racist chip on their shoulder"
lol |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:18 PM Author: Scarlet lascivious messiness bro, your average husky white are country cop LOVES fucking with black and hispanic people. it's the only thing that gets them through their shifts.
i know, because i'm related to three such people. they basically huddle up next to the keg on holidays and brag about how they stuck it to the niggers that quarter. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:19 PM Author: walnut nowag what is your solution for policing minority communities? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466589) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:21 PM Author: Scarlet lascivious messiness pay cops more. encourage (without doing straight AA hiring) minorities from those neighborhoods to become cops. better "community policing" generally. relaxation of petty crime and pot enforcement so that the big criminals get got (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466614) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:47 PM Author: odious tripping university More like:
School shooting ... Uproar as it trickles out that FBI missed several tips and local police visited parents house 30-some odd times ... ... ... Now that fury has died down, let’s focus entirely on gun control and ignore clear lapses ... Have town hall ... Oops in addition to all of those other lapse, the on-grounds deputy didn’t do shit. Teehee! |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:31 PM Author: laughsome locus This is why we DONT need guns. Are heroes will protect us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466010) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:40 PM Author: bull headed carmine temple lol if even half of this turns out to be true
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/966854507744374784
Cliffs: County schools started reducing arrests in order to gain more funding from feds and state. They did this by literally just not arresting students and blatantly hiding crimes. Schools would have monthly quotas, and after those quotas were reached all bets were off. Kids could do whatever with no consequences. Gangs started targeting students to do their bidding and learned the timing. School Resource Officers (like this "cop") were there to enforce the policies, not to keep the kids safe. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:47 PM Author: Beady-eyed Violet Jew Brunch holy shit if true if true, this should be huge
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:16 PM Author: white crotch Oh yeah, there was this big controversy in Broward about how the schools were supposedly picking on personality-disordered minority shithead kids by getting them in trouble all the time so they came up with this plan to be non-discriminatory. Here you go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466547) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:32 PM Author: Duck-like Tanning Salon Volcanic Crater Yep, cop probably figured the semi-auto rifle fire was coming from a black kid and he’d get in trouble if he tried to intervene
(Xoretard mentality) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:40 PM Author: white crotch Well yeah. He didn't want to oppress a victimized black body of color and end up getting entered into Shaqueefa's database. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466805) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:43 PM Author: Cerise Institution Boiling Water i heard the cop handed in his badge today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466146) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:46 PM Author: Razzmatazz depressive skinny woman The cop was a Boomer? Well that explains it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466196) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:52 PM Author: honey-headed beta range Lucky for him he has a common name so he could probably move to, say, Seattle and start over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466272) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:54 PM Author: Twisted useless brakes native Not just common, the first google results will always be for the notorious wife killer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466302) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:01 PM Author: amethyst national i made this point last week in a thread about how "schools already have armed guards." this story didn't even exist then.
i said lol at the "security guards" most schools have. they are always older, barney fife cops ticking down days to retirement in what they think is a cush gig.
one of those bumbling aging officers isn't going to do shit in stopping school shootings. they don't do anything to stop petty crimes and the students don't respect them. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:35 PM Author: Duck-like Tanning Salon Volcanic Crater Ty. Now asess the ability of 37 yo history teacher shrews in same situation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466733) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:45 AM Author: gaped abusive faggot firefighter Close call. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467564) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:53 AM Author: amethyst national well if the teacher is right there in the room, or across the hall, there's a better chance.
but one bumbling near-retirement cop, in a far part of the building, isn't going to stop anything.
and, btw, i'm undecided if i think teachers should be armed and have gun training requirements. i tend to think most can't handle it.
ideally, schools would have better discipline, not be afraid of the kids and their parent(s) and be afraid of getting sued, and kick these psychos out. you can usually tell which ones are dangerous. hell, this shooter had, what two dozen calls to the sheriff about him and the FBI was notified? |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:30 PM Author: Duck-like Tanning Salon Volcanic Crater xoTrump: “teachers would be better at this. Give them a snub nose 38 and they’ll shoot the dude with the AK right in the eye.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466693) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:48 PM Author: Sienna orchestra pit People complain about the militarization of cops and SWAT teams but this is why you need them. Officer friendly can’t do shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466863) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:49 AM Author: opaque famous landscape painting ACAB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467582) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:12 AM Author: Bronze rebellious hall affirmative action Tbf, I don't think it's "well settled" in the LE community whether a single cop should go in or wait for backup, especially if the shooter has a rifle. It's prob. up to the officer's discretion. I don't know if this particular sheriff dept. had a policy or guideline on that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467797) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:46 AM Author: low-t station goal in life Virtually all mass shooters give up or commit suicide upon the slightest confrontation with police.
The one exception I can think of is the North Hollywood bank shootout. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 4:18 AM Author: outnumbered business firm twinkling uncleanness bank robbers aren't really mass shooters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467917) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:19 AM Author: low-t station goal in life I agree but I can't really think of any other big incident that didn't quickly reach a conclusion when cops showed any sort of commitment whatsoever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468028) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:57 AM Author: Pale Floppy Becky Sheriff should be arrested for using any warm body (in this case an elderly man) to fill what is supposed to be a serious position
Old guy was Zero-T and shook with fear like any old bitch |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:09 AM Author: hateful voyeur newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468017) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:00 AM Author: Pea-brained crimson space mother The “school resource officer” gigs in Florida are where the police/sheriffs push (mostly girls) who can’t handle the street. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467999) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:03 AM Author: hateful voyeur newt LOL at the sheriff throwing this guy under the bus. The guard was clearly incompetent and unqualified for the job. This falls at the top. The sheriff acted like a fool on CNN and he's trying to distract everyone from his own incompetence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468004) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:06 AM Author: hateful voyeur newt The narcissist sheriff is writing about himself in third person. LOL
https://twitter.com/ScottJIsrael |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:11 AM Author: Provocative cumskin haunted graveyard It's even worse if the police department employs a social media manager. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468020) |