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Serious Q: Is national debt really just going to go up forever?

Will nobody ever come to collect??
Startled dilemma telephone
  02/23/18
China will outsource collection to guido loan sharks. They w...
chest-beating electric ticket booth
  02/23/18
It's just numbers on paper.
Know-it-all casino
  02/23/18
yes, and not a single democrat and barely any republicans ca...
ruddy double fault
  02/23/18
all countries are doing it. LOL when this thing implodes.
Thriller school cafeteria corn cake
  02/23/18
that's not an excuse, and yeah -- weimar republic but on a w...
ruddy double fault
  02/23/18
Hold BTC and keep your bags packed or hold gold and keep you...
at-the-ready weed whacker
  02/23/18
there's nowhere to go other than south island new zealand an...
ruddy double fault
  02/23/18
Do you have guns?
Startled dilemma telephone
  02/23/18
i have three identical AR15's that i almost never shoot, no ...
ruddy double fault
  02/23/18
It's odious debt anyway and paying it back would be a worse ...
excitant laser beams
  02/23/18
It will be inflated away
Mischievous depressive kitchen
  02/23/18
no problem with de facto Consol bonds I mean the British ...
hairraiser translucent national turdskin
  02/23/18
The U.S. has been spending beyond its means for a long time....
dashing plaza coldplay fan
  02/23/18
Generally speaking creditors get nervous when a country's de...
dashing plaza coldplay fan
  02/23/18
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ruddy double fault
  02/23/18
the national debt doesn't matter
soggy ocher clown
  02/23/18
(Dick Cheney)
Seedy Charismatic Theater
  02/23/18
nobody has presented a cogent argument for why it matters. ...
soggy ocher clown
  02/23/18
You are consistently wrong on absolutely everything.
Tantric sadistic site
  02/23/18
Eventually you owe so much that you own the bank
Embarrassed to the bone cowardly hell
  02/23/18
as long as oil is traded in dollars and we back that up with...
Nighttime circlehead roommate
  02/23/18
75% of GDP doesn’t really seem that high. Most of Europe is...
laughsome selfie
  02/23/18
For people who don't get why this matters: https://www.cb...
Tantric sadistic site
  02/23/18
So we pay 1.7% interest on the debt and the interest payment...
laughsome selfie
  02/23/18
"half of a percent of our total federal budget" ...
Tantric sadistic site
  02/23/18
We could literally print the money at any time to pay it bac...
Racy native multi-billionaire
  02/23/18


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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: Startled dilemma telephone

Will nobody ever come to collect??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467493)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:30 AM
Author: chest-beating electric ticket booth

China will outsource collection to guido loan sharks. They will break some thumbs at the Treasury Department and Congress.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467500)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:32 AM
Author: Know-it-all casino

It's just numbers on paper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467508)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:33 AM
Author: ruddy double fault

yes, and not a single democrat and barely any republicans care. the end result will be hyperinflation or default on the national debt.

the nation's indifference to the spiraling national debt is, to me, one of the primary signs of the decadence and degradation of this country.

XO is a microcosm of this. almost no one here cares either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467511)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:35 AM
Author: Thriller school cafeteria corn cake

all countries are doing it. LOL when this thing implodes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467519)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:37 AM
Author: ruddy double fault

that's not an excuse, and yeah -- weimar republic but on a worldwide scale

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467523)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:38 AM
Author: at-the-ready weed whacker

Hold BTC and keep your bags packed or hold gold and keep your guns loaded

or both

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467528)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:39 AM
Author: ruddy double fault

there's nowhere to go other than south island new zealand and i dont have the resources for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467532)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: Startled dilemma telephone

Do you have guns?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467546)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: ruddy double fault

i have three identical AR15's that i almost never shoot, no handguns for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467551)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:50 AM
Author: excitant laser beams

It's odious debt anyway and paying it back would be a worse cure than the disease.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467591)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:12 AM
Author: Mischievous depressive kitchen

It will be inflated away

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467661)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:26 AM
Author: hairraiser translucent national turdskin

no problem with de facto Consol bonds

I mean the British Empire is still paying off Consols that they issued back in the Napoleonic wars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467693)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:00 AM
Author: dashing plaza coldplay fan

The U.S. has been spending beyond its means for a long time. While I'm no economic expert, I'm skeptical of the idea that you can get something for nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467769)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:04 AM
Author: dashing plaza coldplay fan

Generally speaking creditors get nervous when a country's debt gets to a certain level relative to its GDP. While the situation with the U.S. might be a little different because of its preeminent position in the global economy, I find it hard to believe that there is no amount of debt that is too much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35467772)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: ruddy double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35468505)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: soggy ocher clown

the national debt doesn't matter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35468562)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: Seedy Charismatic Theater

(Dick Cheney)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35468571)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: soggy ocher clown

nobody has presented a cogent argument for why it matters. they just screech about your personal share or national bankruptcy or greece or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35468591)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: Tantric sadistic site

You are consistently wrong on absolutely everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35468731)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone cowardly hell

Eventually you owe so much that you own the bank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35468577)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:08 AM
Author: Nighttime circlehead roommate

as long as oil is traded in dollars and we back that up with the US military, and ARE idiot government doesn't do anything stupid like default on the national debt, I don't think this will trigger the next crisis

there's always the possibility some Eurotrash country's debt takes a shit and there's a cascade effect I guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35468587)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: laughsome selfie

75% of GDP doesn’t really seem that high. Most of Europe is higher, eg “thrifty” Germany is 70%—and fucking Japan is nuts. Shit even countries like Singapore which have reps for being well run—110%. U.S. household debt being back up over 13T is much more alarming. My question is what all did we do to take advantage of the stupidly low interest that was available for the past decade plus? Not enough of a public finance masterman to know about this, but if we got all our debt down to the stupidly low like below 2% not pegged to LIBOR levels that were available we should be happy to carry it and use any excess money to make the best available investments in growth (e.g. infrastructure). This is weirdly the one part of policy where Trump has some true expertise and could have a strong positive influence on policy thought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35468716)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: Tantric sadistic site

For people who don't get why this matters:

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go

"Interest on debt: The federal government must make regular interest payments on the money it borrowed to finance past deficits — that is, on the federal debt held by the public, which reached $14 trillion by the end of fiscal year 2016. In 2016, these interest payments claimed $240 billion, or about 6 percent of the budget."

Note that this is just interest. Just do piss away $240 billion/year, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35468766)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: laughsome selfie

So we pay 1.7% interest on the debt and the interest payment annually is a half of a percent of our total federal budget. Republicans are such fucking flamers both in the sense that they seek to create unnecessary panic about government debt and in the sense that they’re all gay and love to suck cock.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35469157)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 11:50 AM
Author: Tantric sadistic site

"half of a percent of our total federal budget"

6, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35469370)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 11:33 AM
Author: Racy native multi-billionaire

We could literally print the money at any time to pay it back.

So basically it'll just eventually cause some inflation.

But society will be unrecognizable before this happens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901332&forum_id=2#35469233)