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Why hasn't THE LAW transitioned from .pdf to .oxps?

PDF sucks dick.
Big smoky internal respiration corner
  02/23/18
wasn't THE LAW still using WordPerfect until early this deca...
Sable Locus
  02/23/18
Lol, I used word perfect and loislaw as a summer in the late...
Mint spectacular area
  02/23/18
My firms dms shows we switched in 2007.
bright laughsome liquid oxygen
  03/03/18
I heard partners at SullCrom still use Windows 95
stirring lay really tough guy
  02/23/18
not flame, debevoise was still on xp when microsoft cut off ...
Lascivious death wish
  02/23/18
lmfao
stirring lay really tough guy
  02/23/18
90%+ of lawyers are like 90. Very high median age. It's an o...
Low-t talented mother
  02/23/18
Diaper dispensers in every office by 2020
stirring lay really tough guy
  02/23/18
What are the advantanges?
Provocative affirmative action step-uncle's house
  02/23/18
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Thriller overrated becky
  02/23/18
i dunno, but it's bullshit that you need "Acrobat Pro&q...
Lascivious death wish
  02/23/18
(guy trusting electronic redactions)
mind-boggling judgmental locale
  02/23/18
thats how we file shit under seal. maybe we print and scan ...
Lascivious death wish
  02/23/18
If you don't, you should definitely print and scan. I usual...
mind-boggling judgmental locale
  02/23/18
Lol
Big smoky internal respiration corner
  02/23/18
"on more than one occasion I've received documents from...
Soul-stirring Cordovan Tanning Salon Masturbator
  02/23/18
Totally plausible, but what if that moron works for you? I ...
mind-boggling judgmental locale
  02/23/18
paralegals should be trained in this. i say should be bec...
Lascivious death wish
  02/23/18
v5 here; i'd put the number at 90%
mind-boggling judgmental locale
  02/23/18
"That's probably because some moron highlighted in blac...
Big smoky internal respiration corner
  02/23/18
Is your claim that Acrobat's redactions don't work?
Soul-stirring Cordovan Tanning Salon Masturbator
  02/23/18
My claim is that I have received more than one PDF that purp...
mind-boggling judgmental locale
  02/23/18
That's because they're using non-redaction tools to "re...
Soul-stirring Cordovan Tanning Salon Masturbator
  02/23/18
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I don't care one way or the other a...
mind-boggling judgmental locale
  02/23/18
OXPS is an XML-based format, which makes creating tools to b...
Big smoky internal respiration corner
  02/23/18
Metadata?
orange lodge potus
  02/23/18
Cravath uses LotusNotes
crusty stag film weed whacker
  02/23/18
...
Thriller overrated becky
  02/23/18
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Curious university
  03/03/18


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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Big smoky internal respiration corner

PDF sucks dick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470467)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Sable Locus

wasn't THE LAW still using WordPerfect until early this decade?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470470)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Mint spectacular area

Lol, I used word perfect and loislaw as a summer in the late aughts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470523)



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Date: March 3rd, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: bright laughsome liquid oxygen

My firms dms shows we switched in 2007.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35526206)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: stirring lay really tough guy

I heard partners at SullCrom still use Windows 95

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470475)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Lascivious death wish

not flame, debevoise was still on xp when microsoft cut off support a few years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470499)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: stirring lay really tough guy

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470515)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:01 PM
Author: Low-t talented mother

90%+ of lawyers are like 90. Very high median age. It's an old man's profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470489)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: stirring lay really tough guy

Diaper dispensers in every office by 2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470511)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Provocative affirmative action step-uncle's house

What are the advantanges?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470504)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Thriller overrated becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470530)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:06 PM
Author: Lascivious death wish

i dunno, but it's bullshit that you need "Acrobat Pro" to do simple shit like apply redactions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470544)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: mind-boggling judgmental locale

(guy trusting electronic redactions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470692)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: Lascivious death wish

thats how we file shit under seal. maybe we print and scan before filing--not positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470701)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: mind-boggling judgmental locale

If you don't, you should definitely print and scan. I usually love technology, but on more than one occasion I've received documents from the other side that were "redacted" but still contained extracted text for the full doc. In one case it was every single redacted doc in their production. Obviously in that case it's a problem with Relativity settings or whatever they were using, but I've seen it in individual PDFs too. Curmudgeonly as it sounds, it's better to be safe than sorry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470717)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: Big smoky internal respiration corner

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470753)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Cordovan Tanning Salon Masturbator

"on more than one occasion I've received documents from the other side that were "redacted" but still contained extracted text for the full doc."

That's probably because some moron highlighted in black or used text boxes. That's not redacting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470820)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: mind-boggling judgmental locale

Totally plausible, but what if that moron works for you? I have no idea whether or not my junior associates are proficient enough to use redaction tools appropriately, and I'm not going to waste time checking to make sure that they didn't screw up (and I think my firm actually disabled the redaction function in acrobat last year because of this). I just tell them to highlight in Word, change highlights to black, print and then scan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470883)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: Lascivious death wish

paralegals should be trained in this.

i say should be because i know even at top firms half of them are useless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470942)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: mind-boggling judgmental locale

v5 here; i'd put the number at 90%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471041)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: Big smoky internal respiration corner

"That's probably because some moron highlighted in black or used text boxes."

OMG.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471072)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Cordovan Tanning Salon Masturbator

Is your claim that Acrobat's redactions don't work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470812)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: mind-boggling judgmental locale

My claim is that I have received more than one PDF that purported to contain electronic redactions, but that retained the text underneath the redaction in some form. In one of the instances that I am thinking of, I saved the PDF as a Word doc and the text was there. In the other, I went to copy text (including the redaction) out of the PDF and into a brief that I was writing, and the redacted text showed up when I hit paste. No idea if the counterparties at issue were using Acrobat, but as a result I do not trust electronic redactions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470859)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Cordovan Tanning Salon Masturbator

That's because they're using non-redaction tools to "redact."

I don't see how switching to oxps would solve that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471202)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: mind-boggling judgmental locale

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I don't care one way or the other about oxps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471221)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Big smoky internal respiration corner

OXPS is an XML-based format, which makes creating tools to be used with it much simpler than developing PDF tools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470722)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: orange lodge potus

Metadata?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470702)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: crusty stag film weed whacker

Cravath uses LotusNotes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470757)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:47 PM
Author: Thriller overrated becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470906)



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Date: March 3rd, 2018 10:01 AM
Author: Curious university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35526147)